Mafia 73: NEGWLTWWWTKY - Abandoned!

[Peers]

Show me where she's reacted like this before.

I've given up on metagaming, actually. Do you have any case against her that involves this game and only this game?

[Quagmire]

Show me where she's reacted like this before.

I've given up on metagaming, actually. Do you have any case against her that involves this game and only this game?

uh...that's my case. only this game. i don't know her in any other games.

[Elmo]

I find it extremely unlikely she'd have been in exactly the same situation before, and therefore question the value of metagaming. Your request is also akin to guilty until proven innocent, i.e. her perfectly reasonable (imo) response is guilty until she can prove that she does that as town.

I still feel the best way forward is a discussion of what exactly is scummy about her reaction. At the moment, I am very much not liking the vote, Quag.

[Peers]

uh...that's my case. only this game. i don't know her in any other games.

So your case is that she appears to be trying to not get angry, but got angry when someone insulted her.

... Case dismissed for insufficient evidence.

[Albert B. Rampage]

QFT ^

[Mastermind of Sin]

Show me where she's reacted like this before.

I've given up on metagaming, actually. Do you have any case against her that involves this game and only this game?

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Why the hell woudl you give up on metagaming? It's the most reliable way to find scum. To dismiss meta-evidence is a horrible strategic plan.

[PJ.]

This is effectively clouding the judgement of townies. Because MoS could be town and TS is most likely town and they are simply arguing with each other forcing the town to go on a witch hunt.

[Elmo]

Panzer: What do you think of Quagmire, with respect to that?

[JordanA24]

I don't like the Jester talk at all, why can't MOS be a poorly playing scum? What makes you sure that he's a Jester? Personally, I'm suspicious of MOS being scum for pushing a policy lynch so vehemently.

my vote stands. i can tell that me and yos are not going to see eye to eye on those issues, especially when he uses his an opinion of something as backup for his argument lol. (ie im not a big fan of...)

Way to dodge the argument Schis.

FOS: Schismatized

Hey, I remember you! Weren't you scum?

Actually, he was being one of the most level-headed and rational people in the game.

Peers PLEASE climb out of peoples arses.

MoS is a jester. Vig him tonight plz.

What's with the Jester obsession? Why can't MoS be a badly playing scum?

Why can't MoS be a pissed off protown?

Odd that you would limit your questioning in such a fashion that restricts me to being an antitown player only...

FoS: Jordan

That's not what I meant, I was asking them why you have to be a Jester, why don't they think you could be badly playing scum? I can still see you as town, though I admit, I find you pretty scummy, just sticking to the TS policy lynch and contributing nothing useful to the town.

You're full of crap. You said that its too early to have any good leads, which you know is B.S.

Then why are you saying things you know are silly ?

For once, i agree wholeheartedly with ABR. MoS is not making any sense at this point, and i'm suspicious of those defending him so much. I mean, MoS pissed off is not scummy. Its a total null-tell. BUT, MoS pissed off over something totally trivial and pathetic, is pretty scummy. He needs to get his act together, and start helping the game progress.

Case closed.

QFT.

Since MoS and I have voted for her, she has reacted very emotionally to the votes, and in her posts, it's simple to tell that she's simply been masking her intensity through a fit of apathy, something in which if she were actually apathetic about it, she wouldn't care in the first place.

To be fair to TS, I'd be pretty upset if I was being voted for because of a retarded policy lynch (while being insulted at the same time) and being called scum with no reasons given.

uh...that's my case. only this game. i don't know her in any other games.

So your case is that she appears to be trying to not get angry, but got angry when someone insulted her.

... Case dismissed for insufficient evidence.

This post swings my vote.

Unvote Vote: MOS

Start participating properly.

[Battle Mage]

I don't like the Jester talk at all, why can't MOS be a poorly playing scum?

What makes you sure that he's a Jester? Personally, I'm suspicious of MOS being scum for pushing a policy lynch so vehemently.

my vote stands. i can tell that me and yos are not going to see eye to eye on those issues, especially when he uses his an opinion of something as backup for his argument lol. (ie im not a big fan of...)

Way to dodge the argument Schis.

FOS: Schismatized

Hey, I remember you! Weren't you scum?

Actually, he was being one of the most level-headed and rational people in the game.

Peers PLEASE climb out of peoples arses.

MoS is a jester. Vig him tonight plz.

What's with the Jester obsession? Why can't MoS be a badly playing scum?

Why can't MoS be a pissed off protown?

Odd that you would limit your questioning in such a fashion that restricts me to being an antitown player only...

FoS: Jordan

That's not what I meant, I was asking them why you have to be a Jester, why don't they think you could be badly playing scum? I can still see you as town, though I admit, I find you pretty scummy, just sticking to the TS policy lynch and contributing nothing useful to the town.

You're full of crap. You said that its too early to have any good leads, which you know is B.S.

Then why are you saying things you know are silly ?

For once, i agree wholeheartedly with ABR. MoS is not making any sense at this point, and i'm suspicious of those defending him so much. I mean, MoS pissed off is not scummy. Its a total null-tell. BUT, MoS pissed off over something totally trivial and pathetic, is pretty scummy. He needs to get his act together, and start helping the game progress.

Case closed.

QFT.

Since MoS and I have voted for her, she has reacted very emotionally to the votes, and in her posts, it's simple to tell that she's simply been masking her intensity through a fit of apathy, something in which if she were actually apathetic about it, she wouldn't care in the first place.

To be fair to TS, I'd be pretty upset if I was being voted for because of a retarded policy lynch (while being insulted at the same time) and being called scum with no reasons given.

uh...that's my case. only this game. i don't know her in any other games.

So your case is that she appears to be trying to not get angry, but got angry when someone insulted her.

... Case dismissed for insufficient evidence.

This post swings my vote.

Unvote Vote: MOS

Start participating properly.

the bit in red gives me deja vu, because i definitely recall someone saying it before.
Other than his views on Jester's in games in general, which he knows i dont entirely agree with, i think Jordan makes alot of good points here. Just the first sentence makes me uneasy...

BM

[Mastermind of Sin]

I've hardly been pushing the lynch vehemently. I made my vote, people questioned it, and I explained myself. There was nothing vehement about it.

You're just throwing around smoke and flames, Jordan.

Unvote, Vote: Jordan

[JordanA24]

I don't like the Jester talk at all, why can't MOS be a poorly playing scum?

What makes you sure that he's a Jester? Personally, I'm suspicious of MOS being scum for pushing a policy lynch so vehemently.

my vote stands. i can tell that me and yos are not going to see eye to eye on those issues, especially when he uses his an opinion of something as backup for his argument lol. (ie im not a big fan of...)

Way to dodge the argument Schis.

FOS: Schismatized

Hey, I remember you! Weren't you scum?

Actually, he was being one of the most level-headed and rational people in the game.

Peers PLEASE climb out of peoples arses.

MoS is a jester. Vig him tonight plz.

What's with the Jester obsession? Why can't MoS be a badly playing scum?

Why can't MoS be a pissed off protown?

Odd that you would limit your questioning in such a fashion that restricts me to being an antitown player only...

FoS: Jordan

That's not what I meant, I was asking them why you have to be a Jester, why don't they think you could be badly playing scum? I can still see you as town, though I admit, I find you pretty scummy, just sticking to the TS policy lynch and contributing nothing useful to the town.

You're full of crap. You said that its too early to have any good leads, which you know is B.S.

Then why are you saying things you know are silly ?

For once, i agree wholeheartedly with ABR. MoS is not making any sense at this point, and i'm suspicious of those defending him so much. I mean, MoS pissed off is not scummy. Its a total null-tell. BUT, MoS pissed off over something totally trivial and pathetic, is pretty scummy. He needs to get his act together, and start helping the game progress.

Case closed.

QFT.

Since MoS and I have voted for her, she has reacted very emotionally to the votes, and in her posts, it's simple to tell that she's simply been masking her intensity through a fit of apathy, something in which if she were actually apathetic about it, she wouldn't care in the first place.

To be fair to TS, I'd be pretty upset if I was being voted for because of a retarded policy lynch (while being insulted at the same time) and being called scum with no reasons given.

uh...that's my case. only this game. i don't know her in any other games.

So your case is that she appears to be trying to not get angry, but got angry when someone insulted her.

... Case dismissed for insufficient evidence.

This post swings my vote.

Unvote Vote: MOS

Start participating properly.

the bit in red gives me deja vu, because i definitely recall someone saying it before.
Other than his views on Jester's in games in general, which he knows i dont entirely agree with, i think Jordan makes alot of good points here. Just the first sentence makes me uneasy...

BM

That was actually me who suggested it the first time round. I don't think I got a decent answer the first time round.

[JordanA24]

I've hardly been pushing the lynch vehemently. I made my vote, people questioned it, and I explained myself. There was nothing vehement about it.

You're just throwing around smoke and flames, Jordan.

Unvote, Vote: Jordan

Nice OMGUS

You pushed it pretty damn hard from what I read.

[Yosarian2]

I've hardly been pushing the lynch vehemently. I made my vote, people questioned it, and I explained myself. There was nothing vehement about it.

You're just throwing around smoke and flames, Jordan.

Unvote, Vote: Jordan

So, um...why, exactally, are you voting for him?

[schismatized]

hey can we have the regular MOS puh-lease?

[PJ.]

Quagmire, depending on the other pieces in the puzzle, could be scum. If peers is scum, It could mean MoS is scum and TS is town. This could very well mean quag is either playing poorly or is giving MoS the benefikt of the doubt due to tenure.

Right now, that's what I see of quag, He is voting TS due to him knowing MoS for a long while. That doesn't stop im from being advantageuous scum voting for whoever in the arguement of two towns.

The biggest thing to me is peers lynch. I would like an alignment to go off of before we continue discussing MoS TS and Quag.

[Peers]

uh...that's my case. only this game. i don't know her in any other games.

So your case is that she appears to be trying to not get angry, but got angry when someone insulted her.

... Case dismissed for insufficient evidence.

This post swings my vote.

You are -so- trying to butter me up into taking my vote off you, aren't you?

Gotta try harder than that.

[JordanA24]

uh...that's my case. only this game. i don't know her in any other games.

So your case is that she appears to be trying to not get angry, but got angry when someone insulted her.

... Case dismissed for insufficient evidence.

This post swings my vote.

You are -so- trying to butter me up into taking my vote off you, aren't you?

Gotta try harder than that.

No, I feel MoS is scummier than you. You're still #2 though, and very lynchable in my eyes.

[Erg0]

uh...that's my case. only this game. i don't know her in any other games.

So your case is that she appears to be trying to not get angry, but got angry when someone insulted her.

... Case dismissed for insufficient evidence.

This post swings my vote.

You are -so- trying to butter me up into taking my vote off you, aren't you?

Gotta try harder than that.

Somehow I don't think that your vote really scares him

that

much in the current environment.

There are some people that seem to playing a different game than the rest of us, MoS in particular is just behaving strangely (compared to prior experiences with him). TS looks the same as she always does to me, town or scum. I still think something's up there but I'm leaving it alone for today. Peers is our man, though I'm still not liking Neo-Viper. The fact that Peers thinks Neo-Viper's play is perfectly reasonable worries me even more.

[Toaster Strudel]

Looking at who's voting for who...

Peers

is stalled at lynch-2 with MoS and Quag coming in with an off-wagon, distraction vote. To metagame MoS here, his vote looks independent of any in-game considerations. Quag's vote, however, has no bone to pick with me (I am sure of that, I have rarely played with him), so it's much more suspicious, maybe hiding behind a veil of support for a friend.

hasdgfas

' reason to vote Peers seems genuine.

ABR and BM

are voting/distracting each other. Would be nice if they expanded their horizon of suspicion to include other players.

Sikario8

hasn't posted since Nov 16. Immature play and reactions, not sure if scummy.

Yosarian2

is voting for Sikario for pretty weak reasons: "Sikario8's lurking, followed by a "I'm alive and reading" post, was scummy. His hasdgfas vote also seemed a bit odd. And when I voted for him because of that, he fos'd me for voting him? Not helping." Yosarian2 is far more aggressive with Peers; however, he keeps his vote on Sikario! Hmmmm. Then a few non-content posts.

Not sure why

Elmo

is still voting Sikario8 as opposed to other players that have come into the scene. Maybe he has a reason to prefer to keep his vote there.

I looked at

Kscope'

s contribution. Is he always so brash and contentless?

Jordan

appears very focused trying to find scum. Peers' vote for Jordan may be a bit OMGUS, or it's damning for Peers.

Erg0

- also well-focused good judgment.

Mert

is bizarre. Anyone cares to metagame Mert? Please take a look at his posts. " Early on I'll wagon people and do occasionally odd things to get reactions and then as Day One moves on I'll suddenly start smacking people with huge analyses of those reactions I got at the beginning." That was Nov. 11. Where are the huge analyses?

Panzer:

voted for Peers without reasoning - then unvoted and voted hasdgfas. Lots of contentless posts. Alternating between being very decisive and then flip-flopping.

Schismatized

: here but not really contributing. Either contentless, or looks like pushing people's buttons without committing. Not sure if that's normal for him.

zu_Faul

: very much keeping himself under the radar, lurking-in-plain sight vote.

8: Peers (JordanA24, hasdgfas, Mert, Erg0, Panzerjager, TS, schismatized, Zu_Faul)
5: Sikario8 (Neo-Viper9, Yosarian Sir Tornado, Elmo, Kscope, )
2: Toaster Strudel (MoS, Quagmire)
1: JordanA24 (Peers)
1: ABR (Battle Mage)
1: Battle Mage (ABR)

vote Sikario8

That's SirTornado only contribution. Dated Nov 12.

mod: prod or replace Sir Tornado

mod: prod or replace Sikario8

[Toaster Strudel]

Sikario8 has been active in other games this morning. Is he deliberately ignoring this one?

[Sikario8]

Sikario8 has been active in other games this morning. Is he deliberately ignoring this one?

no, but, with limited time, i must prioritize. i'll get to you tommorow

[Quagmire]

uh...that's my case. only this game. i don't know her in any other games.

So your case is that she appears to be trying to not get angry, but got angry when someone insulted her.

... Case dismissed for insufficient evidence.

No. Read the damn post again.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Let's get prods...

[zu_Faul]

Unvote

Peers seems good. Reread later today.