The real folk blues [Canceled]

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3700 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:04 am

Sorry I didn't spoiler anything.

But if you actually read any of the posts, there are very few where he actually expresses any sort of suspicion on MoZ. He just jumps on with "let's go", and never gives any reason for this lynch.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3701 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:05 am

In post 1344, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 1342, SpyreX wrote:
In post 1340, The Ascended Masters wrote:I'm pretty excited to see Maker push his shiny new SpyreX suspicion.
In the meantime, short catch up.
Breaking my heart boo.

Unless that is murderous excitement
Murderous excitement; you are part of a very very small collection of people who I wouldn't instantly murder if given the opportunity and I don't see that changing anytime soon. I don't think that Maker can seriously push a case on you and end up as anything but dead by the end of it, but I'm excited to see him try.

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3702 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:06 am

Ok, so you're up to something like 4 posts where you actually tried to push him.

You are not the strongarm in this lynch.

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3703 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:06 am

Ok, if anyone has a dayvig, I humbly request you use it on TAM. If he's scum, go ahead and lynch me. I'm 100% confident that TAM is scum after that ISO.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3704 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:07 am

You went "look, Nacho liked Maker's play!". I pointed out the post 4 posts later where I clarified that no, I didn't.
You also didn't manage to quote all of my posts about Maker; why is that?

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3705 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:08 am

I did a ctrl+f and typed in maker and MoZ. those were all the posts that weren't shitposts about him.

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3706 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:08 am

Or ones that you quoted someone else talking about him, but didn't address the points on MoZ.

Mirhawk · Post Post #3707 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:09 am

I see we're back up. I'm probably not going to be able to catch up until tomorrow.

Til then.

Nero Cain · Post Post #3708 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:09 am

In post 3699, DiamondSentinel wrote:with Nero a very very likely TAM buddy.

So to recap. I push TAM as a lynch, DS says that he'd be ok with a TAM lynch but it hesitant to vote them. I then accuse DS-TAM of scum theater and now he's trying to push me as a buddy.

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3709 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:13 am

In post 3708, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3699, DiamondSentinel wrote:with Nero a very very likely TAM buddy.
So to recap. I push TAM as a lynch, DS says that he'd be ok with a TAM lynch but it hesitant to vote them. I then accuse DS-TAM of scum theater and now he's trying to push me as a buddy.

That was just coincidence.

It was actually the fact that you tried to push something that wasn't the case, which would make them be town-read. I couldn't care less about scum theater, because I never take such accusations seriously. They are kinda funny to laugh at, though.

Nero Cain · Post Post #3710 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:18 am

ok, if I was pushing TAM for "something they could get town read for" why exactly are you voting TAM?

I mean sure you are not claiming that you think TAM is 100% scum but I don't really understand why you were voting them over "something they could be town read for"

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3711 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:20 am

In post 3710, Nero Cain wrote:ok, if I was pushing TAM for "something they could get town read for" why exactly are you voting TAM?

I mean sure you are not claiming that you think TAM is 100% scum but I don't really understand why you were voting them over "something they could be town read for"

You didn't push them.

I was saying "whoever strongarmed MoZ was likely town" and then you said "TAM strongarmed them" which upon ISO 100% wasn't true. This makes it look like you are trying to get them townread even though the basis of this townread is obviously untrue.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3712 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:21 am

In post 3711, DiamondSentinel wrote:I was saying "whoever strongarmed MoZ was likely town" and then you said "TAM strongarmed them" which upon ISO 100% wasn't true. This makes it look like you are trying to get them townread even though the basis of this townread is obviously untrue.

I asked Nero who strongarmed MoZ.
Because his case on me is that I strongarmed MoZ yesterday. That's Cakez's case as well.

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3713 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:21 am

Your previous statement is kinda the exact opposite of what happened, actually. You didn't push TAM for that, and I wasn't voting them over something they'd be townread for.

PEdit: Well, he's wrong, then. Because you didn't strongarm MoZ at all.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3714 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:23 am

In post 3703, DiamondSentinel wrote:If he's scum, go ahead and lynch me.

I assume you meant to say "if he's town".
The only thing that needs to happen when I flip town is for you to take a step back and actually read what people are saying. Same for Nero. Same for Cakez.

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3715 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:24 am

Let me just spell this out for Nero and Cakez (mostly for Cakez, as I actually townread him at this point).

A D1 strongarm should not be proof of scuminess, especially if it's a "less strong" player like MoZ (what I mean is if you strongarmed someone like Varsoon, Drixx, or Ranger, who seem to be strong players, that'd be scummy. I'm not saying MoZ is a weak player). Therefore, your case on TAM is not valid. It makes no sense to potentially suffer many scumreads on such a fruitless lynch.

Au contraire, this should be for a townread. However, this is moot, as TAM

did not

strongarm MoZ.

PEdit: Thank you, TAM. I'm not good at typing.

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3716 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:25 am

Well, at least we have sportsmanship between town and scum here. ^_^

Nero Cain · Post Post #3717 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:26 am

yeah I don't think I've ever tried to get them townread. I think your "town are the one's that strongarm lynches" is more of an attempt to get a town read on them then anything that I've ever said.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3718 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:26 am

And being confident is fine; bloodlust in mafia is fun. But when you're wrong, you need to acknowledge that you were wrong, you need to find out why you were wrong, and you need to fix it in the future. You should never find yourself in a position where you don't believe the person you're pushing could ever be town in any circumstance ever because that means that for an entire day you're wasting time and effort forming a narrative that will be completely useless when your tunnel target flips town; you'll miss on scummy shit happening around you because you're tunnel-visioned, and if you never learn how to do that then you'll find people listening to you less and less and less, even if you are right occasionally.

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3719 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:32 am

In post 3717, Nero Cain wrote:yeah I don't think I've ever tried to get them townread. I think your "town are the one's that strongarm lynches" is more of an attempt to get a town read on them then anything that I've ever said.

Absolutely not. I want a TAM lynch, or better yet, a TAM dayvig.

MathBlade · Post Post #3720 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:43 am

In post 3718, The Ascended Masters wrote:And being confident is fine; bloodlust in mafia is fun. But when you're wrong, you need to acknowledge that you were wrong, you need to find out why you were wrong, and you need to fix it in the future. You should never find yourself in a position where you don't believe the person you're pushing could ever be town in any circumstance ever because that means that for an entire day you're wasting time and effort forming a narrative that will be completely useless when your tunnel target flips town; you'll miss on scummy shit happening around you because you're tunnel-visioned, and if you never learn how to do that then you'll find people listening to you less and less and less, even if you are right occasionally.

Agreed.

There is one minor exception to that rule I keep track of.

Not sure it is smart to say it here.

MathBlade · Post Post #3721 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:45 am

I townread TAM.

SpyreX · Post Post #3722 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:59 am

There is 0 chance of admittance of wrong after this lynch but just keep chuggin along

Killthestory · Post Post #3723 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:00 am

ALRIGHT BOYS LET'S GET A LYNCH WITHIN AN HOUR. LET'S GO BOOOOOOYS.

VOTE: NOS
LET'S P
O W E R
W A G
O N

ISO · Post Post #3724 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:31 am

In post 3622, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 3615, Aristophanes wrote:TAM, what's your Nos case then? I don't get why they look wonderful as a kill target.
For one, why would you ever want to keep them alive? I don't really understand how you're reading their ISO and going "yep, that seems like a terrible kill target, what does Nacho see in there that makes him want to kill Nosferatu?".

I doubt that Nos is town because he hasn't done shit this game and has no plans of doing anything; every once in a while he'll pretend he's about to do something with shallow questions "what's a mole?" "oh PK you might be scum!", but there's not a genuine piece of scumhunting in the entire ISO whereas everyone else here has at least managed something.

This is garbo, Nos always does that

In post 3624, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 3616, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3610, The Ascended Masters wrote:Nero, you've known me for 7 years. You've called me "she" for 7 years. You see every other person in the game who refers to me as "he", I've had the right gender in my profile for all of those years; how is it that, of every person that I've played with on this site and others, you're the only one who still can't get it right?
I am
supposedly
misreading you and this is what you decide to fuss at me about?
I don't expect you to ever be able to read me accurately. I do expect you to be able to use the right pronoun eventually.

In post 3620, SirCakez wrote:Why do they suck, they're both pretty scummy?

If you want to talk about survivalism just look at TAM. Only posting content when the wagon built up on them, no scumhunting that isn't being forced by pressure.
Or I'm just posting when I have time, same as I've always done.

But I've literally never seen you get prodded before (unless I'm forgetting)

In post 3638, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 3629, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 3620, SirCakez wrote:Kids TV Show Characters Mafia
Nacho, what do you think of that as a comparable to you this game? Is cakey just bullshitting or does he have a point? I'll get around to skimming it at some point but wanted your take first.
My day 1 there looks nothing like my Day 1 here. You'll be able to tell from a cursory glance.

Please do look at it mhsmith, it's super similar

In post 3677, The Ascended Masters wrote:who strongarmed the MoZ lynch yesterday?

You did

In post 3715, DiamondSentinel wrote:Let me just spell this out for Nero and Cakez (mostly for Cakez, as I actually townread him at this point).

A D1 strongarm should not be proof of scuminess, especially if it's a "less strong" player like MoZ (what I mean is if you strongarmed someone like Varsoon, Drixx, or Ranger, who seem to be strong players, that'd be scummy. I'm not saying MoZ is a weak player). Therefore, your case on TAM is not valid. It makes no sense to potentially suffer many scumreads on such a fruitless lynch.

Au contraire, this should be for a townread. However, this is moot, as TAM
did not
strongarm MoZ.

PEdit: Thank you, TAM. I'm not good at typing.

Yes it is
Especially because it was on a less strong player
It was an easy pickoff