The real folk blues [Canceled]

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3625 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:08 am

In post 3623, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 3617, Nero Cain wrote:My stance on Nos is they will lurk and be useless regardless of alignment so they are a stupid lynch. Now if we wanted to lynch a scummy lurker we could lynch RM. Random more than Rach at this point.
Well, I agree that they don't do much anyways. And I suppose that does make them vig worthy instead.

If they need to die, why is it important that they die by vig over by lynch?

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3626 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:08 am

In post 3621, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 3617, Nero Cain wrote:My stance on Nos is they will lurk and be useless regardless of alignment so they are a stupid lynch. Now if we wanted to lynch a scummy lurker we could lynch RM. Random more than Rach at this point.
Nero read the game or stop talking. I'm not lurking anymore and rach has been replaced. Nice faking of reads tho

I didn't see that Rach was replaced.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3627 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:10 am

In post 3621, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 3617, Nero Cain wrote:My stance on Nos is they will lurk and be useless regardless of alignment so they are a stupid lynch. Now if we wanted to lynch a scummy lurker we could lynch RM. Random more than Rach at this point.
Nero read the game or stop talking. I'm not lurking anymore and rach has been replaced. Nice faking of reads tho

you're still pretty much lurking and rach hasn't been replaced (yet anyway). Oh for two pal.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3628 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:12 am

Oh, and Nero:

This is a game with Nosferatu as town not being useless. You're implying that they're always like this, but that isn't at all the case.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3629 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:12 am

In post 3620, SirCakez wrote:Kids TV Show Characters Mafia

Nacho, what do you think of that as a comparable to you this game? Is cakey just bullshitting or does he have a point? I'll get around to skimming it at some point but wanted your take first.

Killthestory · Post Post #3630 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:12 am

my experience with town nos is that he plays good

hes not playing good here

pisskop · Post Post #3631 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:13 am

In post 3626, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 3621, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 3617, Nero Cain wrote:My stance on Nos is they will lurk and be useless regardless of alignment so they are a stupid lynch. Now if we wanted to lynch a scummy lurker we could lynch RM. Random more than Rach at this point.
Nero read the game or stop talking. I'm not lurking anymore and rach has been replaced. Nice faking of reads tho
I didn't see that Rach was replaced.

Whoa. msh if I didnt townread you id called you the pot.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3632 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:13 am

In post 3628, The Ascended Masters wrote:Oh, and Nero:

This is a game with Nosferatu as town not being useless. You're implying that they're always like this, but that isn't at all the case.

This is another one
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=65928

Ps thought nos was a she. Is that wrong?

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3633 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:14 am

In post 3631, pisskop wrote:
In post 3626, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 3621, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 3617, Nero Cain wrote:My stance on Nos is they will lurk and be useless regardless of alignment so they are a stupid lynch. Now if we wanted to lynch a scummy lurker we could lynch RM. Random more than Rach at this point.
Nero read the game or stop talking. I'm not lurking anymore and rach has been replaced. Nice faking of reads tho
I didn't see that Rach was replaced.
Whoa. msh if I didnt townread you id called you the pot.

? what does "id called you the pot" mean?

pisskop · Post Post #3634 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:16 am

hunh.

funny that.

p: Id say you were lurking and doing nothing much

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3635 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:16 am

Eh, fuck it.

VOTE: TAM

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3636 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:16 am

In post 3625, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 3623, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 3617, Nero Cain wrote:My stance on Nos is they will lurk and be useless regardless of alignment so they are a stupid lynch. Now if we wanted to lynch a scummy lurker we could lynch RM. Random more than Rach at this point.
Well, I agree that they don't do much anyways. And I suppose that does make them vig worthy instead.
If they need to die, why is it important that they die by vig over by lynch?

Because a lynch ends the day. A vig does not. Lurksacks should always be vigged over lynched.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3637 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:17 am

In post 3636, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 3625, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 3623, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 3617, Nero Cain wrote:My stance on Nos is they will lurk and be useless regardless of alignment so they are a stupid lynch. Now if we wanted to lynch a scummy lurker we could lynch RM. Random more than Rach at this point.
Well, I agree that they don't do much anyways. And I suppose that does make them vig worthy instead.
If they need to die, why is it important that they die by vig over by lynch?
Because a lynch ends the day. A vig does not. Lurksacks should always be vigged over lynched.

Why is ending the day on an active player lynch better than ending the day on a lurker lynch?

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3638 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:18 am

In post 3629, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 3620, SirCakez wrote:Kids TV Show Characters Mafia
Nacho, what do you think of that as a comparable to you this game? Is cakey just bullshitting or does he have a point? I'll get around to skimming it at some point but wanted your take first.

My day 1 there looks nothing like my Day 1 here. You'll be able to tell from a cursory glance.

SpyreX · Post Post #3639 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:19 am

VOTE: nos

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3640 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:19 am

When I asked them before they said they didn't mind being referred to by either pronoun; I'd guess she based on their last post, though.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3641 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:20 am

In post 3630, Killthestory wrote:my experience with town nos is that he plays good

hes not playing good here

Come join.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3642 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:20 am

In post 3634, pisskop wrote:hunh.

funny that.

p: Id say you were lurking and doing nothing much

Oh well that's fair to some degree. I'm definitely not WIMing it up this game, though I'd say my activity is probably around average for the board, maybe a touch below.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3643 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:22 am

Although wrt random my point wasn't so much that he was lurking as it was that he was lurking while claiming it to be, also that he was wrong about rach status while attacking Nero for not being aware of rach's status.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3644 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:22 am

^while claiming not to be

Nero Cain · Post Post #3645 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:23 am

In post 3628, The Ascended Masters wrote:Oh, and Nero:

This is a game with Nosferatu as town not being useless. You're implying that they're always like this, but that isn't at all the case.

ok, I wasn't in that game.

Nero Cain · Post Post #3646 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:23 am

In post 3628, The Ascended Masters wrote:Oh, and Nero:

This is a game with Nosferatu as town not being useless. You're implying that they're always like this, but that isn't at all the case.

ok, I wasn't in that game.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3647 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:23 am

In post 3643, mhsmith0 wrote:Although wrt random my point wasn't so much that he was lurking as it was that he was lurking while claiming it to be, also that he was wrong about rach status while attacking Nero for not being aware of rach's status.

yeah i didn't understand what pisskop was driving at as far as "pot calling the kettle back" goes

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3648 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:24 am

In post 3646, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3628, The Ascended Masters wrote:Oh, and Nero:

This is a game with Nosferatu as town not being useless. You're implying that they're always like this, but that isn't at all the case.
ok, I wasn't in that game.

Have you played with Nosferatu before?

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3649 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:25 am

In post 3637, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 3636, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 3625, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 3623, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 3617, Nero Cain wrote:My stance on Nos is they will lurk and be useless regardless of alignment so they are a stupid lynch. Now if we wanted to lynch a scummy lurker we could lynch RM. Random more than Rach at this point.
Well, I agree that they don't do much anyways. And I suppose that does make them vig worthy instead.
If they need to die, why is it important that they die by vig over by lynch?
Because a lynch ends the day. A vig does not. Lurksacks should always be vigged over lynched.
Why is ending the day on an active player lynch better than ending the day on a lurker lynch?

Because that gives us information going into the night. Additionally, lurkers should be nightvigged, not dayvigged. Dayvigs should be treated as a second lynch.

If you want to know why lurkers shouldn't be lynched, and should be vigged, see Metal Gear Solid V Mafia. 3 days were wasted by trying to lynch a lurker (who admitedly was lynchproof). If they had tried to vig PV instead of lynching him, then they might have had a chance of winning that game.