Newbie #492 - GAME OVER

[Aimee]

R.I.P somestrangeflea,

townie

, killed on Night 1.

It is now Day 2. With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch!

[Dead Rikimaru]

Well, we are on lynch or lose.
If a townie vote another townie now speedlynch delivers scum an easy win, so

DO NOT VOTE YET

. Let's talk before deciding where to place our votes.

First of all: Is everyone still around?

[Xaivius]

yup, still here.

My primary suspicion is on Apple at the moment for the drop hammer.

I shall clarify later

[Dead Rikimaru]

Mod, could you please prod the players who have not yet posted on day 2?

[Aimee]

Of course.

[Zombie_Woof]

I say Silverwalker and Appleof88 are scum. My FoS is on them, and actually I would vote for both of them right now if I could.

[appleof72]

bring it! lol

we could either do a role claim or scum lists are always a talking point

what do people think?

i was bored, and disliked Vs moaning. so i hammed the lil bitch
sue me

[Dead Rikimaru]

bring it! lol

we could either do a role claim or scum lists are always a talking point

what do people think?

A mass claim you mean?
lol, would only help scum to kill a power role on night 2.
We have more or less done scum lists and you seem to be in all of them.

1. Congratulate the doctor on successful protection: Is scum or doctor (+20, +10)
2. WishyWashy voting (+10)
3. Third person on a wagon is likely to be mafia (+15)
4. Fourth person on a wagon is likely to be mafia (+10)
5. Admitting someone is a townie without saying "IF" (+10) (mafia knows for sure who isn't mafia)
6. Mafia generally have more information than other players, so whoever picks up on tells/hints easiest is more likely to be mafia (+10%). There are some notable exceptions. Experience and skill should be taken into consideration.

Zombie_Woof is guilty of #4, he may have given that vote expecting some townie in a hurry could follow.

apple is guilty of #2, like pointed out by variable himself, iirc. His vote was not needed to advance the day, since we were still talking. It was slow, but was going on, and was stopped by variable's lynch.

They are my prime suspects at the moment.
Since most of us agree that apple is scum we should as well vote him off to save the game from dying.

If I show up dead in the morning remember to reread everything, and to discuss before voting.

vote: appleof88

[Aimee]

Ok, folks. Deadline time.

Deadline: Friday 7th December

All players prodded (except Dead Rikimaru, who posted yesterday), and I will be searching for a replacement for SilverWalker.

[appleof72]

bring it! lol

we could either do a role claim or scum lists are always a talking point

what do people think?

A mass claim you mean?
lol, would only help scum to kill a power role on night 2.
We have more or less done scum lists and you seem to be in all of them.

1. Congratulate the doctor on successful protection: Is scum or doctor (+20, +10)
2. WishyWashy voting (+10)
3. Third person on a wagon is likely to be mafia (+15)
4. Fourth person on a wagon is likely to be mafia (+10)
5. Admitting someone is a townie without saying "IF" (+10) (mafia knows for sure who isn't mafia)
6. Mafia generally have more information than other players, so whoever picks up on tells/hints easiest is more likely to be mafia (+10%). There are some notable exceptions. Experience and skill should be taken into consideration.

Zombie_Woof is guilty of #4, he may have given that vote expecting some townie in a hurry could follow.

apple is guilty of #2, like pointed out by variable himse
lf, iirc. His vote was not needed to advance the day, since we were still talking. It was slow, but was going on, and was stopped by variable's lynch.

They are my prime suspects at the moment.
Since most of us agree that apple is scum we should as well vote him off to save the game from dying.

If I show up dead in the morning remember to reread everything, and to discuss before voting.

vote: appleof88

i think mass claims have alot to add to a game like this
it generates convo and you can tell more about a player on how they react

vote Dead Rikimaru

a for voting for me, cos i'm childish like that
b for dismissing mass claim when it could give life to the game

[Dead Rikimaru]

The only thing you cannot accuse me is of not trying to bring life to the game. The person who tryed the most , if not the only one who tryed, to make sure every player gave an opinion was me. Process that you stopped the first time you had the chance.
A mass claim will only bring useful information to scum. Scum will want to out the cop or doc, or even make sure they exist. It would provide your partner the info needed for an optimal night kill.
The kind of discussion useful for town is the kind I've been trying to get through the whole game.
Normally I would unvote and wait for the replacement, but your strategies are so scummy, your logic is so bad, you excuses are so lame that I don't really care. The replacement will have enough time to read during Night 2 to catch up. (or maybe he is apple's scumbuddy and scum won' kill next night because the player was not aroun).

confirm vote appleof88

[Xaivius]

well, apple, you hammered V, with little to no provocation, and you're fairly unrepentant about your scumminess.

This court finds you

GUILTY

VOTE: Apple

the defendant will immediately surrender to the court, to be held pending further trial at a higher court.

court is adjourned.

*gavel*

[Zombie_Woof]

I do think that we would be doing well to get rid of appleof88. I sat here and wondered whether or not I should vote now, as I'll be the third person on the bandwagon, but I feel pretty certain that appleof88 is probably scum.

Vote: appleof88

[Aimee]

Final Votecount!

appleof88 (3) - Dead Rikimaru, Xaivius, Zombie_Woof
Dead Rikimaru (1) - appleof88

Not Voting (1) - SilverWalker

[Aimee]

You decide to string up appleof88. He struggles to the noose, but eventually can struggle no more. But when you search him, to your horror, you find him to be a

townie

.

appleof88 (townie) - Lynched Day 2

"Well," Dead Rikimaru said, "I think we should keep going after townies now, since we are doing so well at that."

"Yeah," Silverwalker agreed, nodding, "killing townies is way more fun than mafia!"

Zombie_Woof and Xaivius looked at each other nervously. Things had just got difficult.

Zombie_Woof (Townie) - Killed in Endgame
Xaivius (Townie) - Killed in Endgame

The Mafia (Dead Rikimaru and Silverwalker) win!

[Variable]

Nice job, mafia.


At least I had one of you picked out.

[Dead Rikimaru]

If there is a lesson to be learned from this game, is that townies should not try to survive, they should try to find scum.
Since the first day it was noticeable that townies were expecting someone to do the job for them. They lurked and did not say much.

The same could be said abut my "partners" since neither of them stood the pressure and flaked.
Silverwalker got into the game ready for an easy win, putting Variable at -1. He probably thought I would finish him, but since I declined he probably got bored and by Night 1 he was already absent.

My Day 1 strategy was not agree with Golgi on anything, and try to frame someone on my own. I tryed to frame somestrangeflea, but noone really bought that.
Since Variable was close to be lynched I wanted him to, but didn't want it to be me, so I prolongued the day as much as I could so someone would get bored and finish him to advance the game. Apple did that and ended looking the scummiest for that.

I decided to nightkill somestrangeflea for three reasons:
1- He was also on Variable, so if I wanted to go after apple for killing Variable flea could defend apple.
2- He was a lurking IC, which was good for the mafia, I got afraid that he could get replaced for an active IC.
3- Since he was lurking there was a good chance he was a power role.

My Day 2 strategy was to go after apple, and everyone else seemed to agree that his last vote was scummy, even before I mentioned. He also did me a big favor OMGsing me that way, which sounded very scummy.

My advice to the newbies for your next games:
- Do not expect people to do the job for you, even if you are a vanilla townie, try your best to find scum.
- Do not let the game die without discussion, lack of discussion favors scum..

[Zombie_Woof]

Thanks, Dead_Rikimaru, that sounds like solid advice. And thanks for the insight on how you played, I do believe I may have learned a thing or two here. Thanks everybody, and congrats to the Mafia Scum!

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

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