Micro 651: Worst (Role) Idea(s) Mafia 2 (Fin - Town Win!)

[Vedith]

Never fear, Vedith is here!
I think Vax or Light need to be the lynch today. Neither of them ping me as town, and I've stated why Jaack and Skrub would be bad lynches.

[Vaxkiller]

The only thing keeping me from thinking your scum is the fact you could have just jumped on the easy Skrub lynch wagon, but instead you defended Skrub.

[Davsto]

VC 2.3

Skrub (1): light_ganski
Vaxkiller (1): Skrub

Not Voting (4): Aristophanes, Jaack, Vaxkiller, Vedith

With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch. Deadline in (expired on 2016-11-01 20:45:00).

[Vedith]

The only thing keeping me from thinking your scum is the fact you could have just jumped on the easy Skrub lynch wagon, but instead you defended Skrub.

Why could I not be defending him as a gain?
If Skrub is scum / sk and I'm the other, then surely I want to keep him alive to help kill town, and given theat I defend him, makes me less likely the night kill.
So what now? This was the only reason for you to think of me as town, correct?

[Jaack]

@Vedith - Do you have a scumcase on either light or vax, or is it mostly PoE?

Look at me being useful and protown with questions and stuff

[Vedith]

It's more POE. I don't really feel that Ari is scum, but nothing to back that up.

[Jaack]

Yeah, Ari is pretty town. Are you townreading Skrub due to everyone jumping onto his wagon, or are there elements of his play that you find to be towny?

I might be able to come around on a vax lynch, but I want Skrub to make a more substantial case about vax before I commit to anything

[Vedith]

Yeah, Ari is pretty town. Are you townreading Skrub due to everyone jumping onto his wagon, or are there elements of his play that you find to be towny?

I might be able to come around on a vax lynch, but I want Skrub to make a more substantial case about vax before I commit to anything

His action don't make sense from a scum side. I don't feel him as scummy from his posts or hammer, the game was getting stale.
Ari instantly thought this as well (Still want Ari to reply to me about it).

Does this mean you don't like Light for scum?
I can see him jumping on Skrub as an easier vote.

[Jaack]

Light is third most likely scum after vax and skrub but its a distant third. I'm not that interested in lynching light today.

[Aristophanes]

Will do tn

[Skrub]

The only thing keeping me from thinking your scum is the fact you could have just jumped on the easy Skrub lynch wagon, but instead you defended Skrub.

Calling me an easy lynch and town reading him for defending me makes it sound like you already know that I'm town

[Skrub]

Yeah, Ari is pretty town. Are you townreading Skrub due to everyone jumping onto his wagon, or are there elements of his play that you find to be towny?

I might be able to come around on a vax lynch, but I want Skrub to make a more substantial case about vax before I commit to anything

I'll write out the case later today

[Vedith]

Calling me an easy lynch and town reading him for defending me makes it sound like you already know that I'm town

[Skrub]

@Tier

Why don't you just fullclaim now and let us decide if its better to lynch you day 1 or 2?

Because he's either scum or probably gains something anti town if targeted at night.

In your opinion, he's scum or scum?

In a "normal" game I would agree, but something tells me it's a "worst idea" to give townies new abilities if targeted at night.

UNVOTE:

Ok I see what you mean now vedith. That does seem like a slip.

I mean if he is town aligned why would the sk even WANT to help him.

Lol what is he, a town aligned jester

This sentence is really rubbed me the wrong way.
[quotownIn post 50, TierShift"]

Town, you have no benefit in lynching me. I will fullclaim day 2.

Instead of talking about the benefits of his plan to town he says don't kill me it won't help you.[/quote]

Just like light, vax kept acting suspicious of tier yet didn't attempt to push for his lynch at all or ask tier any questions to figure out more about his role. I don't see the town motivation in acting like someone is scum and not trying to get them lynched.

On the one hand, some people make good points in favor of lynching tiershift. On the other hand some people make good points against lynching tiershift. Therefore, I will go with whatever the popular opinion as expressed in the thread is. But whatever the result is, don't blame me. But I think the best choice is to lynch tiershift afther we discuss things that aren't tiershift for a while.

This kind of sounds like the mindset of scum, but scum wouldn't have any reason to announce that they'll just vote for whoever everyone else votes for. So I guess I have a town lean on you right now.

I wat to move my vote, but the tier wagon seems sketchy to me. I guess I should reread everything and see if anything stands out to me

To me he's calling out jack and then does something similar

This is a blatant misrep seeing as how I even said in that quote that I was town reading jaack, not "calling him out".

Oh shit, I thought he was at L-2. Eh, doesn't really matter because he's scum anyway.

I've seen a resurgence of this lately. Everytime: SCUM

VOTE: SKRUB

Opportunistic vote. He doesn't even attempt to try and figure out if I hammered accidentally. He saw a chance to go for an easy mislynch and went for it.

What misdirection?

I bolded the part that was blatant:

It's the truth, therefore it adds up. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not, the fact still remains that I haven't lied about anything. Instead of wasting everyone's time by just saying "no, you're scum" any time I post anything,

you should focus your attention on the people who are actually suspicious like vax.

No reasons. You are basically saying, don't vote for me... vote for this guy!

You're acting as if this wasn't my first posts today

I think Vax is scum. He hasn't tried to figure out the game at all and his posts don't give me the impression that he cares about finding scum.
I showed why he was full of shit there.


VOTE: vaxkiller

Light, come at me bruh. I can take anything you can dish out and in the end you'll just look silly.

I think I need to explain it differently.

SK!Skrub thought tier may actually help town today if he lived, getting him town cred. The only problem with this is I struggled with the same feelings. The only difference being his 180° "accidental" hammer. Which is a move straight out of Tony Hawk Pro Skummer 2.

I don't get your point. There's a difference to Tier playing anti town and not being town.
When someone says "I'm neutral" that confirms that they are not town. There was absolutely no town cred to be gained on lynching Tier.

Vedith showed how his logic was full of holes here.

The only thing keeping me from thinking your scum is the fact you could have just jumped on the easy Skrub lynch wagon, but instead you defended Skrub.

Like I said before, the fact that he called me an easy lunch and townread Vedith for defending me shows that he's scum. The only reason he'd say that is if he already knew I was town. If he really believed that I was scum, why would he townread someone for defending me?

[Vaxkiller]

Calling me an easy lynch and town reading him for defending me makes it sound like you already know that I'm town

It's just the truth, you are an easy lynch, can you name the scum motivation in what I said about Vedith? Saying it only put me more in the spotlight, but I wanted to call it out.

[Vaxkiller]

I think I need to explain it differently.

SK!Skrub thought tier may actually help town today if he lived, getting him town cred. The only problem with this is I struggled with the same feelings. The only difference being his 180° "accidental" hammer. Which is a move straight out of Tony Hawk Pro Skummer 2.

I don't get your point. There's a difference to Tier playing anti town and not being town.
When someone says "I'm neutral" that confirms that they are not town. There was absolutely no town cred to be gained on lynching Tier.

Vedith showed how his logic was full of holes here.

The only thing keeping me from thinking your scum is the fact you could have just jumped on the easy Skrub lynch wagon, but instead you defended Skrub.

Like I said before, the fact that he called me an easy lunch and townread Vedith for defending me shows that he's scum. The only reason he'd say that is if he already knew I was town. If he really believed that I was scum, why would he townread someone for defending me?

I read the above post and was going to respond with my follow up post explaining myself more clearly. Then I saw you took my FOLLOW UP post and swapped it BEFORE Vediths post, to make it seem like my posts were not clear!!! ON TOP OF THAT you gave a tell!!! You manipulated my name in the post!!!! "Vax Killer" You new full well what you were doing.

VOTE: Skrub

Yeah, I know I'm voting again, I have restrictions.

[Skrub]

I think I need to explain it differently.

SK!Skrub thought tier may actually help town today if he lived, getting him town cred. The only problem with this is I struggled with the same feelings. The only difference being his 180° "accidental" hammer. Which is a move straight out of Tony Hawk Pro Skummer 2.

I don't get your point. There's a difference to Tier playing anti town and not being town.
When someone says "I'm neutral" that confirms that they are not town. There was absolutely no town cred to be gained on lynching Tier.

Vedith showed how his logic was full of holes here.

The only thing keeping me from thinking your scum is the fact you could have just jumped on the easy Skrub lynch wagon, but instead you defended Skrub.

Like I said before, the fact that he called me an easy lunch and townread Vedith for defending me shows that he's scum. The only reason he'd say that is if he already knew I was town. If he really believed that I was scum, why would he townread someone for defending me?

I read the above post and was going to respond with my follow up post explaining myself more clearly. Then I saw you took my FOLLOW UP post and swapped it BEFORE Vediths post, to make it seem like my posts were not clear!!! ON TOP OF THAT you gave a tell!!! You manipulated my name in the post!!!! "Vax Killer" You new full well what you were doing.

VOTE: Skrub

Yeah, I know I'm voting again, I have restrictions.

I put Vedith's post after yours because he already rekt your argument yet you still wanted to act as if you had a point. There's no deception there because you'd have to be blind not to see the post numbers. And I didn't manipulate your name in anything so I don't know what you're talking about. Is this a desperate last ditch OMGUS vote?

[Skrub]

Calling me an easy lynch and town reading him for defending me makes it sound like you already know that I'm town

It's just the truth, you are an easy lynch, can you name the scum motivation in what I said about Vedith? Saying it only put me more in the spotlight, but I wanted to call it out.

It's a scum slip

[Vaxkiller]

And I didn't manipulate your name in anything so I don't know what you're talking about. Is this a desperate last ditch OMGUS vote?

Then why does it say Vax Killer? Also, check the history, I voted you at the start of the day, but I have restrictions. This time it should go through. This is not an OMGUS vote, but keep trying to frame and change history, its showing your true colors.

[Aristophanes]

So, I'm town, but looking at numbers, y'all need to lynch me today.
I'll fullclaim if you like, but I just realized it may be too late if we don't do this now.

VOTE: Ari

[Aristophanes]

Like if I live today u think the only way for us to win is if we have myself, a vig, and an SK alive tomorrow. I don't like the odds.

[Vaxkiller]

@ari,lol what weird role did you get???

[Davsto]

VC 2.4

Skrub (2): light_ganski, Vaxkiller
Vaxkiller (1): Skrub
Aristophanes (1): Aristophanes

Not Voting (2): Jaack, Vedith

With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch. Deadline in (expired on 2016-11-01 20:45:00).

[Vedith]

Okay, so here's the thing.
I'm the SK, but I'm town. Functioning Sociopath to be precise.
There's no reason for me to out myself if I wasn't town here, but I feel that people are looking at finding a SK too much.
Given that there can be another SK, but we could be looking for 2 scum here.

Although your vote is good, who's to say that he's a bad SK?
I believe there is town SK's in the thread I'll look later to confirm.

I also put this to show that I'm a good SK if needed.
I killed the other nuetral last night as well.

I think you should full claim if we need to lynch you, Ari.
Unless me being town SK changing the out come?

The way I see it, we had 2 kills yesterday, 1 being me, so possibly only 1 kill tonight without me shooting.

[Skrub]

And I didn't manipulate your name in anything so I don't know what you're talking about. Is this a desperate last ditch OMGUS vote?

Then why does it say Vax Killer? Also, check the history, I voted you at the start of the day, but I have restrictions. This time it should go through. This is not an OMGUS vote, but keep trying to frame and change history, its showing your true colors.

What are you even trying to say in this post? How am I framing and changing history? The only thing that's being shown is that you can't form any coherent thoughts