STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Reasonably Rational]

I thought he was scum and I was tired of the argument going on.

Actually you used precisely enough votes to kill him if and only if he was town. That implies you knew he was town.

Anyways. First things first, who targeted me last night and why?

Nice attempt to deflect away from your coming reckoning.

Second who is in an alliance?

Looks like just you. Curious that ... the plan in thread was for you and Titus to ally. Titus turns up dead and you just happen to turn up in an alliance ... with a person demanding three other lynches happen before you. With an event going on that makes it so nobody can vote unless they're in an alliance.

totes all just a co-incidence though, right?

~Drixx

[farside22]

Taking a look at the first Steven Universe, there should not have more than 6 scum in total).

Also, I think everyone who stated they can't vote should place a vote somewhere to prove that's the case, before kraska ends the event.

VOTE: Farside22

And once he does end the event, NOBODY VOTE UNLESS IT'S ON FARSIDE, since we know she can place at least 5 votes, so right now everyone is at l-2.

-Cerb

This doesn't happen unless votes can't be reached.
Don't listen to the player who isn't trying to find scum.


Here is my thought.
If we can get enough votes without getting rid of the event, scum can't do actions or kill, everyone else can.

That means everyone should use there ability and those that can get info about others can clear players that make them confirmed.

...

Because scum would have caused an event that would keep them from submitting kills, instead of just making sure they had alliances in place? That, by the say, is shy I want everyone who CLAIMS they can't vote to place a vote, so no alliances arranged between scum and kept secret can exist.

-Cerb

HI, my pt stayed open during the night, so I asked kraska to join me.
I'm town.

Who did you alliance with last night or try to?

[farside22]

I thought he was scum and I was tired of the argument going on.

Actually you used precisely enough votes to kill him if and only if he was town. That implies you knew he was town.

Anyways. First things first, who targeted me last night and why?

Nice attempt to deflect away from your coming reckoning.

Second who is in an alliance?

Looks like just you. Curious that ... the plan in thread was for you and Titus to ally. Titus turns up dead and you just happen to turn up in an alliance ... with a person demanding three other lynches happen before you. With an event going on that makes it so nobody can vote unless they're in an alliance.

totes all just a co-incidence though, right?

~Drixx

1) that's a lie.
2) you realize I'm ascuticle, why is that a deflection?
3) if you believe that scum all planed to be in an alliance how does your theory even hold water?

[farside22]

ascuticle = ascetic

[farside22]

Also, I think everyone who stated they can't vote should place a vote somewhere to prove that's the case, before kraska ends the event.

VOTE: Farside22

And once he does end the event, NOBODY VOTE UNLESS IT'S ON FARSIDE, since we know she can place at least 5 votes, so right now everyone is at l-2.

-Cerb

This doesn't happen unless votes can't be reached.
Don't listen to the player who isn't trying to find scum.


Here is my thought.
If we can get enough votes without getting rid of the event, scum can't do actions or kill, everyone else can.

That means everyone should use there ability and those that can get info about others can clear players that make them confirmed.

Translation:

"If I can just snooker these idiots into letting me live another day, I get to trade for even more town!"

~Drixx

Didn't say that either.

Why are you trying hard to not use this in the best way possible.

Ie: tracker info players who can see if a player performs an action.
If they don't they are confirmed scum with a mislynch today and guess what I'm on the chopping block.
So again why are you trying not to help town win?

[grapes]

I have no idea where to go from here

No really. What are your reads?

[Reasonably Rational]

Taking a look at the first Steven Universe, there should not have more than 6 scum in total).

Also, I think everyone who stated they can't vote should place a vote somewhere to prove that's the case, before kraska ends the event.

VOTE: Farside22

And once he does end the event, NOBODY VOTE UNLESS IT'S ON FARSIDE, since we know she can place at least 5 votes, so right now everyone is at l-2.

-Cerb

This doesn't happen unless votes can't be reached.
Don't listen to the player who isn't trying to find scum.


Here is my thought.
If we can get enough votes without getting rid of the event, scum can't do actions or kill, everyone else can.

That means everyone should use there ability and those that can get info about others can clear players that make them confirmed.

...

Because scum would have caused an event that would keep them from submitting kills, instead of just making sure they had alliances in place? That, by the say, is shy I want everyone who CLAIMS they can't vote to place a vote, so no alliances arranged between scum and kept secret can exist.

-Cerb

HI, my pt stayed open during the night, so I asked kraska to join me.
I'm town.

Who did you alliance with last night or try to?

You had agreed to ally with Titus. Why did you change in the middle of the night?

You're not town. You're at best a 3rd party who has done considerable damage to town, and you have what appears to be prescience about who is town (just enough votes to kill Snarky only if he's town, changing your alliance as if you knew the alliance you agreed to would fail for some reason, etc...).

You're going to eat rope. The only question is how much

more

damage the rest of the game is going to let you do first.

~Drixx

P.S. - Stop trying to deflect. Our alliance choice was one of the last things posted during the day phase yesterday. It's not a fucking mystery.

[grapes]

Farside needs all of the death.

[Almost50]

Guys, can we slow this shit down a bit?

I'm so far out of the loop this game and that isn't good.

I didn't try for an alliance.

I submitted your name :/

Anyway, just to be safe:

VOTE: No Lynch

[Creature]

I tried to ally with grapes (but I wasn't told who I should ally with nor agreed with anyone).

[Almost50]

Fuzzy is 90% town with snarkys flip

Not sure I understand this one.

[Almost50]

Also, I think everyone who stated they can't vote should place a vote somewhere to prove that's the case, before kraska ends the event.

VOTE: Farside22

And once he does end the event, NOBODY VOTE UNLESS IT'S ON FARSIDE, since we know she can place at least 5 votes, so right now everyone is at l-2.

-Cerb

Ah, ok...

VOTE: Farside

[Creature]

We should be real quick when we end the event.

[grapes]

I don't want to do anything quick. People still need to post thoughts.

[Creature]

I am afraid scum can quickhammer town.

[grapes]

Today? How many scum do you think there are?

[grapes]

Is it confirmed farside has 5 votes?

[grapes]

So she'd have to have 2 buddies.

Seems unlikely. But they might be coordinating.

That's where kraska comes in.

[Reasonably Rational]

I believe we should do all our dia cussing and arranging etc before kraska shuts down the event, to make sure no more ridiculous things happen before we at least talk about shit.

-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

Is it confirmed farside has 5 votes?

Farside claimed 14 points 2 days ago. She also claimed that it took a point for each extra vote (I think, not positive). So that would leave her with either 10 or 9 points left, plus whatever she may have gained since.

Snarky was at l-5 (or 4) when she used her power, IF it just adds votes, instead of replacing her vote. If it replaces her vote, he was at l-6 or l-5.

Either way, it doesn't seem like there's a restriction of, say, can't be more than half the votes on a wagon...so if there is one, it's a hard limit on number of votes, which is at least 5, OR there may be a limit on how many other slots must be on the wagon.

-Cerb

[Almost50]

If the Exposition ends on a non-scum lynch, the entire scum team is removed from the game and unable to take actions for the Climax phase.

I think it best to vote NO LYNCH today and force scum out of the game for the Climax phase. Every Townie with a night action will target a suspect with it. Tomorrow we will get results, and if you action went through then the player was available and they're town. If your action got blocked then your target was scum.

Please tell me if I'm missing something. Oh, and if we go down that route we need to get organized and not to step on eachother's toes, while -at the same time- not revealing much more info.

Let me first ask:

@Varsoon:

If Scum are removed from the game tonight, can they still submit/form alliances on phase 6?
Put another way (but please treat it as a separate question for the sake of clarity): Can scum still submit alliance requests in advance and/or during the Climax phase?

[Almost50]

Gem Crystals are all town guys.
I think we need to lynch Farside at this point. She is too much of a liability to town.
I'm not allied.
VOTE: Farside
(test)

So last scum would be between Shiro/randomidget/TheFuzzylogic99/TheWayItEnds/MagnaofIllusion/Shadow_step

I agree with this analysis. My top choice out of these would be MoI. I have a pretty strong event in the bag btw

And that does it. The day should end in a no lynch regardless, but let's just wait for Varsoon to confirm all 7 players announcing not having alliances cannot vote for sure.

So far:

Not allied: Creature, Almost50, Thefuzzylogic99, Shiro, grapes, Reasonably Rational, randomidget,
Allied: Farside22 + Kraskaeaque
Status unknown: mastin2, Shadow_Step, MagnaofIllusion, TheWayItEnds,

[Almost50]

Massclaim doesn't sound like a bad idea but thoughts are appreciated.

If we do, I'll let Shiro claim my character on my behalf.

[Reasonably Rational]

I'm almost certain if the day ends in a no lynch, neither effect will take place, because a no lynch is not the same as a non scum lynch.
-Cerb

[Almost50]

not true...Kfkyu flipped 3rd party........ I think atleast there is atleast 1 more 3rd party left over

Xk flipped a Crystal Gem that WAS a leftover before joining the CGs. I agree there's at least one more, and I might be inclined to think they could join SCUM by own choice (i.e. exactly the way Xk had the option to join the CGs). At one point Xk thought that might've been FB, but we know now that's not the case. I'd nominate farside to be that one missing leftover/scum (explains how her vote in beachabalooza counted for 2 just BEFORE she joined the Scum faction + why she claimed her ability to reset votes was 1-shot + hammering SS..etc.)