Open 656- Tit For Tat - Endgame

[alban]

Try to focus comment was for Yuria.

[Harkonnen97]

alban am i town or scum?

[alban]

alban am i town or scum?

Don't feel bad. It's nothing personal. Just observations.
I think you Hark, choose to play a deliberate bad game.
First I thought, you are just passing the time. And that you are not a very good player.
But I believe you are a good player who is posing to be a bad player, and that all these useless comments by you are eliciting certain responses from people, and I am hoping that you are analysing those comments.
But I have no way of knowing for sure, since this is my first game with you.

And if you are doing this coz you are really not serious abt the game or not good at it, I would vote for you even if you are a town. It's more or less the same logic as what you gave for me. Except, voting you out gives the city more information than voting for someone like me who is disliked universally and from the start of the game. Maybe not currently, as pointed out by Yuria, but definitely in the past. And that doesn't tell you much.

In any case, if I go for voting between you and the other two, my hierarchy to vote out will be Eager > SGZ > you.

[alban]

BTW, you still haven't answered my q.
How does lynching me, and me flipping either way, tell you anything about other players.
Play it out for me, step by step.

[alban]

alban am i town or scum?

I think you are town. But I am not sure.

[Harkonnen97]

not everyone reacted the same way to ur wagon. not everyone wants u dead. stop acting like a wounded puppy

[alban]

Always going off the tangent, aren't you Hark?
The point is this: If lynching me brings the city clarity, lay out the two scenes for me.
What conclusions will you reach when you get to know I am a citizen?
And what in case I am a mafia?

[FancyPants]

Firstly I think we should hustle towards a lynch, 5 days with a weekend in between is really not a lot of time.

Now for a quick catch up, going over my thoughts on everybody in no particular order.

I think the

Alban

is probably town -

4. Most importantly, in a game where you need 7 to lynch me, 5 of you are currently voting against me. What's the likelihood that half of the players have formed an opinion against a player so quickly? What is the voted player likely to be in the case? Will the consensus happen so quickly if I were mafia?
.

Some good paranoia in this line, I don't necessarily agree with the logic but I can see the town thought process.

Don't like this post by

Persephone

131, seem more interested in not looking like scum rather than lynching scum.

I haven't really liked

Textcat

worrying over people's town reads (86 and 102), it feels scummy and counter productive. Nothing wrong with town-reading, but I feel scum want the potential pool of suspects to remain as large as possible.
However this post:

who else beside yuria is ur scumbuddy texie ?

And when did you quit beating your wife?

Are you trying to tie me to Yuria? Why?

Is interesting, I think fearing being tied to someone is a very townie response, townies don't know who is scum and therefore don't want to be tied to anyone. In fact there is an advantage for scum cat to be tied to town Yuria.
Therefore I come to the conclusion that textcat and yuria are scum together, or neither are scum (more likely at this stage).

Hark

is probably town but that whole scum claiming business is pretty annoying and anti-town. Do you get Nk'ed early in games often?

Yuria

seems to be game-solving for me, but I can see her potentially fooling me.

Gamma

is pretty null, struggling to get a read, why do you town read textcat gamma?

NJAC

is a town lean but has collectively said very little.

I''m town reading both

Eager

and

Fire Assasin

for similar reasons (that basically boils down to a IDGAF attitude).

That leaves the lurkers of Kop, Sgz and Persephone.
I can definitely see two scum in those three.

I kinda like Persephone because of 131. I can live with Kop as well.

For now.
UNVOTE:

VOTE: Persephone
Look at her ISO, I could definitely see her being newb-scum who is unable to play due to not knowing how to manufacture reads.

[Harkonnen97]

all 3 scum are doing a good job of laying low so far btw

so gj on that

[FancyPants]

all 3 scum are doing a good job of laying low so far btw

so gj on that

All the better to vote Persephone.

[Harkonnen97]

i know persephone is town because im scum though

[FancyPants]

Please vig Hark night 1. Thank you.

[eagerSnake]

i know persephone is town because im scum though

hey guys I think I found a slip

[Kop]

u are trying to paint off post 27 as scummy when it isn't.

Nah.

It's something I wouldn't vote for, because it isn't exactly a legitimate reason I'd vote someone for.

But my vote on him wasn't for that post. Also, what's a legitimate reason for voting someone during RVS?

I was talking about Harks vote on you.

[FancyPants]

At this stage everyone should state who there serious lynch candidate is. The vote count is a shambles with like 8 people on L-5/6.

[Gamma Emerald]

I can understand how you thought she was a townread of mine, but I just sheeped her vote because I felt the same way.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, I'd probably lynch FA or FancyPants rn.

[FancyPants]

Gamma who is your hardest tr?

Probably texcat.

[FancyPants]

Also, I'd probably lynch FA or FancyPants rn.

Based on?
Are you being deliberately obtuse because I really think we have enough of that this game.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh yeah, whoops. I said that because she plain rejected my sheeping.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh yeah, whoops. I said that because she plain rejected my sheeping.

In response to 292

[Kop]

I'd love to go into detail about every player thats in the game, and why I have them where I have but I am too tired to post in great detail, so it's going to be sketchy at best.

I have read back and got myself nearly up to date with everything, but here is where I am in with reads:


Up to now, I'm liking Fancypants, Fire Assassin for town. Slight town reads on Yuria, Hark, Alban, Eager. Null on SGZ, NJAC, Persephone. Slight scum reading on Texcat, Gamma.

Hark is only a slight town read simply because I don't see suicidal play like that as scum. It's simply not a viable game play that I would see scum do at this stage of the game, to openly put themselves out there. And if I think more about it, I think it's reaction testing to see who would actually push it to get an easy lynch by doing what he is doing. It's probably not the best strategy to finding scum because it has higher risk of backfiring, and less reward, or I may even be thinking out the box and this isn't his sole intention. I wouldn't call him newb town, or a VI, but I think it could be just his way of generating discussions, engaging with people, and looking for reactions, it appears poorly played, but it's his own unique way.

[FancyPants]

What's a VI BTW?

[Gamma Emerald]

VI = Village Idiot

[The_Jester]

Mine