Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

Narna · Post Post #2550 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:07 am

My shifting Titus read is kind of the same thing I'm on mcmenno for. They both have pretty much tunneled weak early reads for 100 pages. The bus thing stems from me feeling like this (mcmenno) lynch will not go through with Nahdia and I, and an assumption that Titus would also recognize this.

McMenno · Post Post #2551 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:09 am

why do you keep misrepping me

Narna · Post Post #2552 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:11 am

Because it's easy

Fine, you tunneled your

strong

early reads for 100 pages.

Not Chara · Post Post #2553 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:12 am

i think McMenno has a better chance of going through than either you or Nahdia.
i don't like to look at bussing too much on day 1, with no flips. looking at them independently, which do you think is more likely scum?

just checked up on McMenno's voting history. he's still on your slot, and hasn't changed votes since. i didn't realize that until now.
but i don't have the knowledge about McMenno that i do about Titus. so he feels vaguely... 'eh', whereas Titus just feels very bad.

pedit: McMenno, say Narna isn't happening today. who would you lynch instead.

Not Chara · Post Post #2554 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:13 am

In post 2551, McMenno wrote:why do you keep misrepping me

this isn't something you say to the player you're trying to lynch.

McMenno · Post Post #2555 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:19 am

In post 2553, Not Chara wrote:i think McMenno has a better chance of going through than either you or Nahdia.
i don't like to look at bussing too much on day 1, with no flips. looking at them independently, which do you think is more likely scum?

just checked up on McMenno's voting history. he's still on your slot, and hasn't changed votes since. i didn't realize that until now.
but i don't have the knowledge about McMenno that i do about Titus. so he feels vaguely... 'eh', whereas Titus just feels very bad.

pedit: McMenno, say Narna isn't happening today. who would you lynch instead.

titus

Not Chara wrote:
In post 2551, McMenno wrote:why do you keep misrepping me
this isn't something you say to the player you're trying to lynch.

elaborate please

Nahdia · Post Post #2556 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:20 am

Since he hopped on the McMenno wagon.

VOTE: Leonshade

Anyone? Please?

Not Chara · Post Post #2557 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:21 am

because the answer to your own question should be known to you? he's misrepping you because he's scum.
it's a frustrated question, but should be in line with your read on the slot. i'm wondering why you were surprised.

Maxous · Post Post #2558 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:22 am

In post 2509, SlySly wrote:
In post 2507, Maxous wrote: P.s. I'm getting a little tired of players holding out for hammers.
Some players may not have a choice.

so you're being forced to hammer while 2 other players get powers from hammering?

that's odd

not gonna setup-spec on Day 1 but it would be something to address in later days

Not Chara · Post Post #2559 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:24 am

In post 2556, Nahdia wrote:Since he hopped on the McMenno wagon.

VOTE: Leonshade

Anyone? Please?

you were on McMenno too.
why is Leonshade scum for it?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2560 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:24 am

In post 2559, Not Chara wrote:
In post 2556, Nahdia wrote:Since he hopped on the McMenno wagon.

VOTE: Leonshade

Anyone? Please?
you were on McMenno too.
why is Leonshade scum for it?

Yeah agreed on this; why is he scum?

Nahdia · Post Post #2561 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:25 am

Not Chara wrote:
In post 2556, Nahdia wrote:Since he hopped on the McMenno wagon.

VOTE: Leonshade

Anyone? Please?
you were on McMenno too.
why is Leonshade scum for it?

He's not scum for it. He's scum, and I don't want to be on the same wagon as him.

PeregrineV has made some weird posts lately and has gone a bit down on my list.

NotChara on the other hand has started looking really genuine again and is getting bumped back up.

Nahdia · Post Post #2562 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:28 am

In post 768, Leonshade wrote:Last post(s) before V/LA, so here's where my reads stand:

Scum

Gamma Emerald - As I've said before, I had a strong townread on Gamma in a previous game, whereas I really don't like him in this game. I don't like his defensiveness and his scumhunting doesn't look genuine to me.
Giga - A lot has been said about Giga, and I don't have the time to put too much time & effort into this post, so I'll just say that there's a lot Giga has done that I read as scummy (Magna's catch-up posts especially reminded me of a lot of smaller details that I had forgotten), but with him replacing out and my bad feeling about Gamma, he's not my #1 choice at the moment.
Pepto - Leaning scum, his entrance was bad and he doesn't seem to care about game solving.

Strong Null

McMenno - I can't read him at all.

Town

House
Maxous
zakk - Went from a solid SR to a TR, I don't see any scum motivation for his play, whereas his stated town motivation for his early play seems clear and makes a ton of sense.
SlySly - More "not scum" than any pro-town play, I don't see SlySly flipping scum.

I'm also not scumreading Accountant, and I remember townreading him, but my notetaking has been bad lately so I forgot why. Definitely not SRing him, though.

Others are either null or leaning in one direction, but not to a major extent.

In post 2498, Leonshade wrote:I'm probably not gonna read 70 pages, and the last thing this game needs is another replace out, so I will sheep a top townread for a bit. There's 100 pages and town's too split, gotta get something going.

VOTE: McMenno

I'm sheeping Maxous for the record.

Goes from "I can't read this guy" to "I'm just gonna sheep my townread and vote them". And I agree with his townread but two of his scumreads still have wagons on them.

McMenno · Post Post #2563 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:29 am

In post 2557, Not Chara wrote:because the answer to your own question should be known to you? he's misrepping you because he's scum.
it's a frustrated question, but should be in line with your read on the slot. i'm wondering why you were surprised.

oh I might believe they are scum, but others clearly do not

having correct scumreads isn't enough, gotta get people to vote them too

Narna · Post Post #2564 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:31 am

I'd rather go after PV or Magna again, but I'd be ok with lynching Leon.

Maxous · Post Post #2565 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:33 am

In post 2561, Nahdia wrote:
Not Chara wrote:
In post 2556, Nahdia wrote:Since he hopped on the McMenno wagon.

VOTE: Leonshade

Anyone? Please?
you were on McMenno too.
why is Leonshade scum for it?
He's not scum for it. He's scum, and I don't want to be on the same wagon as him.

..do you always have an allergic reaction to being on the same wagon as a scum-read or something?

you've never seen scum bus before?

like, i think Leon is town anyway - scum would never sheep me if nothing else - but this is just silly

Not Chara · Post Post #2566 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:35 am

Nahdia: i have to agree there, i don't really like him not going to you or Narna here. it would make more sense than blindly sheeping. and i had him as null before.
your explanation makes sense to me.
Leonshade can be a scumread. but i'd rather lynch Titus. i still need to go through her reads progression.

Narna: i'm not sold on Peregrine, i still think he's town. Leon can go on the backburner. Magna, i'm in the midst of sorting.

pedit: scum bus less when there are three and a half wagons on the table. i, for one, like to assume that scum is trying to take advantage of the large playerlist of day 1 and lynch town safely, instead of gambiting with a bus that may not even get them townread when site meta is expecting scum to bus at every corner. case in point: your own opinion. :>

Not Chara · Post Post #2567 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:36 am

In post 2563, McMenno wrote:
In post 2557, Not Chara wrote:because the answer to your own question should be known to you? he's misrepping you because he's scum.
it's a frustrated question, but should be in line with your read on the slot. i'm wondering why you were surprised.
oh I might believe they are scum, but others clearly do not

having correct scumreads isn't enough, gotta get people to vote them too

i mean, fair. the question just read to me more as frustration than an attempt to push Narna or to get him to give your more content for your read.

Maxous · Post Post #2568 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:41 am

these wagons are a mess cause too many people are looking for a perfect wagon of town-reads.

it's page 103 - get a lynch done.

i disagree on the bussing theory ftr.
not being on the wagon of a possible buddy lynch is a risk not many scum are willing to take if possible

Narna · Post Post #2569 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:43 am

VOTE: Leon

I'm kind of over speculating for busses.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2570 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:44 am

Let's lynch Leon. That awkward vote choice was hella opportunistic.
VOTE: LeonShade

Narna · Post Post #2571 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:46 am

[quote="In post 2566Narna: i'm not sold on Peregrine, i still think he's town. Leon can go on the backburner. Magna, i'm in the midst of sorting.[/quote]
What makes pv town, and what changed since you started the earlier Magna wagon?

Maxous · Post Post #2572 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:47 am

look some people might feel like i'm being a dick but somebody needs to put the foot down here.

this is helping nobody. it's way past diminishing returns - get a wagon and

lynch somebody

McMenno · Post Post #2573 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:47 am

question who hasn't been wagoned at this point

Not Chara · Post Post #2574 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:47 am

Maxous, could you rephrase your last sentence?
scum can and do buddy town to get onto mislynches with little incident... i think it's a good point against Leonshade. do you often see scum avoid buddying town onto lynches?

pedit: i can't remember the exact post, but i remember asking 'Magna, are you actually town?' in response to it. some things he said sounded vaguely towny, so i'm back to trying to sort him. i still don't like him very much, but my mind is no longer made up.
i think i have a post on why Peregrine is town.