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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:06 pm

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Do you still want a full-claim in spite of the setup generation?
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:17 pm

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Just by the tone of Gamma's posts make me think he's scum. I'll give an example: 185, he disregards everything I had to say and just focuses on the one thing he thinks he can scumread me for, which was the amished tell. 179 and 182 were scummy for the reasons I explained in 183 and 184.

132 and 138 are just justifications he could come up for jumping onto the wagon. I mean, seriously, light_ganski tactically replaces out after one person votes for her? And until I confronted him, there's nothing in his posts that are essentially helping the game.

I know I'm all over the place here, but there's just so much to his posts that shout SCUM to me.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:18 pm

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...
Ok, CC is
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PR-soft also no information though. Essentially a not-vanilla claim, or claiming 29/30 possibilities. Meaningless.
Is this a joke? No one said anything?
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:19 pm

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I didn't see the setup information :/
Do you want a full claim or not?
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:21 pm

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And now that I see the setup information, my role is actually a lot less powerful than I thought.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:21 pm

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In post 227, Heartache wrote:...
Ok, CC is
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PR-soft also no information though. Essentially a not-vanilla claim, or claiming 29/30 possibilities. Meaningless.
Is this a joke? No one said anything?
I said that at least twice.
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:21 pm

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Yes.
Not sure yet, but massclaim might even break this setup.
Role madness claiming very different from usual.
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:58 pm

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Heartache, Gamma, or anyone else, any rebuttal to my read on Gamma?
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:02 pm

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The only thing that you presented that I feel I can defend without getting into a long protracted argument about semantics is the part about the Amished tell. I had learned what it was just then and realized something you said before was pretty close to what I learned about. As for not answering you questions, I didn't really feel the need to.
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:04 pm

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In post 224, Gamma Emerald wrote:As for BYF, his previous slot owner lurked out, then he invoked the Amished tell twice. Heavily scumreading him.
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Not scumreading him for itlepip hammer?
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:07 pm

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In post 234, Heartache wrote:
In post 224, Gamma Emerald wrote:As for BYF, his previous slot owner lurked out, then he invoked the Amished tell twice. Heavily scumreading him.
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Not scumreading him for itlepip hammer?
That too. As I sadi earlier, I've seen scum get away with justified quickhammers before.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:07 pm

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*As I said
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:10 pm

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BigYoshiFan slot is scum based on the itlepip play. BigYoshiFan alone in isolation is not as bad as you make out, those tells are kind of shallow.
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:11 pm

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In post 235, Gamma Emerald wrote:That too. As I sadi earlier, I've seen scum get away with justified quickhammers before.
Example, fast.

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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:13 pm

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=67979
Skold was scum, quickhammered due to provocation from BBT Day 1, was not scumread for it.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:14 pm

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In post 233, Gamma Emerald wrote:The only thing that you presented that I feel I can defend without getting into a long protracted argument about semantics is the part about the Amished tell. I had learned what it was just then and realized something you said before was pretty close to what I learned about. As for not answering you questions, I didn't really feel the need to.
You didn't actually defend yourself with the amished tell. I asked you why you didn't consider itlepip's reckless gameplay as a playstyle thing like you did for reso's policy lynch, but instead you completely ignored it and only acknowledged the amished tell.

There is no argument involving semantics. I asked why a little pressure on light_ganski would cause her to tactically replace out and that you can't know if she requested for a replacement before or after (likely before) Leon voted her, which is what I assume this "little amount of pressure" you're referring to is.

I also don't understand what you mean by "if reso's replacement does a better vote." Reso's vote was on me, and so is yours. If reso's vote on me isn't the best vote in your opinion, why is your vote on me?
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:25 pm

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In post 240, BigYoshiFan wrote:You didn't actually defend yourself with the amished tell. I asked you why you didn't consider itlepip's reckless gameplay as a playstyle thing like you did for reso's policy lynch, but instead you completely ignored it and only acknowledged the amished tell.
I didn't vote him for playstyle; I voted for lurking out.
There is no argument involving semantics. I asked why a little pressure on light_ganski would cause her to tactically replace out and that you can't know if she requested for a replacement before or after (likely before) Leon voted her, which is what I assume this "little amount of pressure" you're referring to is.
I may not know, but I interpreted it as a tactical replace out.
I also don't understand what you mean by "if reso's replacement does a better vote." Reso's vote was on me, and so is yours. If reso's vote on me isn't the best vote in your opinion, why is your vote on me?
As I said, I didn't vote for the same reasons.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:28 pm

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In post 235, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 234, Heartache wrote:
In post 224, Gamma Emerald wrote:As for BYF, his previous slot owner lurked out, then he invoked the Amished tell twice. Heavily scumreading him.
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Not scumreading him for itlepip hammer?
That too. As I sadi earlier, I've seen scum get away with justified quickhammers before.
The quickhammer is not a generic bad thing that scum "could possibly have done here". It's how itlepip voted was scummy in itself.

The difference is important. You don't lynch anyone who quickhammers on the reasoning "scum do it sometimes", how you read the action itself is important.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:28 pm

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Itlepip has a reckless nature. I'm not sure if I can find a game he played in that would help me justify this (although I will), but he modded one of my games. We asked if we were allowed to swear in his game and his response was... uhmmm... well, you can look for yourself, I don't feel comfortable quoting it.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:30 pm

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That's a stretch.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:31 pm

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Well, I'm sorry. Right now I can't defend myself, I have to defend itlepip, don't I?
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:35 pm

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Fullclaim your role please.

You'll have the most credibility doing so now, for various reasons.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:36 pm

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1-shot role cop
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:36 pm

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In post 31, itlepip wrote:Hard claim 2 shot
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:37 pm

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I was skeptical about doing it earlier, but at that time I didn't notice the setup and realized that this role isn't as powerful now.

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