Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]
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You scum bro?In post 1421, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
STOP TRYING TO OUTGUESS THE MOD IN A BASTARD GAME.In post 1420, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Magna: the character I'm referring to is almost definitely not pro-town.
Seriously. Because if I was Skull I'd absolutely make the character in question Town just to fuck with assumptions like this ...-
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Nope.In post 1426, House wrote:You scum bro?
Are you?
If not and think Narna's scum why are you not voting her to help advance the day?"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.-
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Using your scumhunting method, MOI has to be town, he's an experienced player that's good.In post 1426, House wrote:
You scum bro?In post 1421, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
STOP TRYING TO OUTGUESS THE MOD IN A BASTARD GAME.In post 1420, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Magna: the character I'm referring to is almost definitely not pro-town.
Seriously. Because if I was Skull I'd absolutely make the character in question Town just to fuck with assumptions like this ..."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Because I just woke up to a shitton of posts across the site that I have to catch up with and this thread is low on my priority list due to the volume.In post 1427, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Nope.In post 1426, House wrote:You scum bro?
Are you?
If not and think Narna's scum why are you not voting her to help advance the day?-
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You have 224 posts here, the next highest poster is 160.In post 1429, House wrote:
Because I just woke up to a shitton of posts across the site that I have to catch up with and this thread is low on my priority list due to the volume.In post 1427, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Nope.In post 1426, House wrote:You scum bro?
Are you?
If not and think Narna's scum why are you not voting her to help advance the day?There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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You must not have even clicked on those games I linked because cakez was only scum in like one of themIn post 1416, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Um look a complete and utter dodge. For those who doubt zakk isn’t scum just making up things on the fly let’s revisit the posts I was discussing.In post 1255, zakk wrote:i'm not floating anything
i wasn't going over the people in my wagon saying "he's scum, he's scum, he's scum"
i was going over the votes on my waon saying "this is a bullshit vote, this is a bullshit vote, this is a bullshit vote"
so what point am i avoiding?
you're totally misrepping me.
So 565 is where zakk goes to great length to show a multiple meta examples of SirCakez as scum doubtcasting him. Read that post in full and then look at the next post in the chain that I was pointing out.In post 565, zakk wrote:I also want to address this post.
I have played at least five or six games with SirCakez in the last year or so.In post 105, SirCakez wrote:zakk is great at faking scumhunting as scum
I wouldn't townread him for that yet
In every game where he is scum, he drums up the fact that I'm really good at scum, and that people shouldn't trust me.
Compare:
Kuribo in Wonderland:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... hilit=zakk
Street Fighter Mafia:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... hilit=zakk
Mass Effect Mafia:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... hilit=zakk
Magical Girls Mafia:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... hilit=zakk
Look at the way he constantly doubtcasts me, but ESPECIALLY as scum.
Note that I am town in all of these scenarios.
The only time I've been scum around SirCakez is when we were scumtogether, here:
Killer Instinct Mafia:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66274
So throw that in the pot along with all the votes which have been influenced by SirCakez.
That's all.
So in 932 he specifically says that 565 was not a “case” and he doesn’t scum read SirCakez, that the people who used 565 as reasoning to vote SirCakez are “probably full of shit” and SirCakez isn’t scummy.In post 932, zakk wrote:also for those of you voting sircakez saying that it was my reasoning that helped you get to that point, you're probably full of shit
because all my posts 565 and 569 really did was show that cakez has a habit of suspecting me, and that his suspicion should be taken with a grain of salt
i didn't create a case for him to be scum, i didn't even say i had a scum read on him. i just said what he has done before, and as which alignment
i don't have a scum read on him, and actually don't think i've considered him scummy more than a couple times this game
so park that wagon, turn it around, and start barking up another tree, comprende? thxxxxx
I point this out and zakk tries to ignore it until I point out his ignoring it for everyone to see.
Now look at his response I quoted above … does that look like anything coming from a Town perspective to you?
Firstly he mis-identifies the issue completely – he’s trying to say I’m “misrepping” his intention. Yet what was the intention of 565 then? It certainly doesn’t reasonably appear to me that he’s saying “Sir Cakez suspicion should be taken with a grain of salt”. If so he could have just typed that and not gone to the trouble of linking multiple games. That post says “Sir Cakez always does this when he’s scum”. His subsequent backpedaling is zakk scum play – flip flop constantly on positions regarding players to establish a pattern of “that’s how I play” so he can’t be held accountable for suspicions. He did that in Adventure Mafia all the time … in fact in the Mafia PT I had to warn him off doing it with Titus later in the game as it was going to get him lynched.
And this isn’t the only example of him here – now suddenly Andrius “isn’t a good lynch” just for providing a wall post. Keep in mind he’s been calling Andrius scum for most of the limited day. Can scum wallpost? Certainly. And he makes absolutely zero comment about any of the content of Andy’s post … just that he shouldn’t be lynched today if he posts like that. Switching gears off an unpopular push but leaving plenty of wiggle room to later say “Oh, I still think he’s scum, blah blah blah”.
Zakk is pretty obvious at this point.
You ask me not to spam and then you make this entire huge post about a fabrication so obviously wrong and easily disproven
You disappoint me. I expect better play than this if you're town. Hell I expect better if you're scum too-
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Oh and re: Andy if you think he's scum you should vote him, otherwise you should shut up about me changing my mind about him once he started not being a useless excuse abuser and made what by most accounts appears to be a damn good post-
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Hey look it's snarky snowman
He only shows up once a year, just like normal snowmen
But for him it's different. He doesn't wait for Christmas
He only shows up for bullshit reasons
Like voting the mod
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MagnaofIllusion has been killed Night 1
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I've bolded the very important points of zakk's original posting to show that his response is the timid response of scum who is trying to just say "You didn't read all my pointless links" and dodges the salient point that 565 is an attempt to paint Sir Cakez as scum for suspecting him that he later back-pedaled on like an All Pro lock-down cornerback.In post 565, zakk wrote:In every game where he is scum, he drums up the fact that I'm really good at scum, and that people shouldn't trust me.
Compare:
Kuribo in Wonderland: viewtopic.php?t=66574&f=56&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select%5B%5D=26092&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_sort=Go&hilit=zakk
Street Fighter Mafia: viewtopic.php?t=67071&f=3&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select%5B%5D=26092&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_sort=Go&hilit=zakk
Mass Effect Mafia: viewtopic.php?t=66512&f=56&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select%5B%5D=26092&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_sort=Go&hilit=zakk
Magical Girls Mafia: viewtopic.php?t=67527&f=23&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select%5B%5D=26092&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_sort=Go&hilit=zakk
Look at the way he constantly doubtcasts me, but ESPECIALLY as scum.
I got a hearty chuckle at the "Oh, you are playing bad" Ad Homenium. It's sad and makes me fairly sure I'm on track ..."I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
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Did you just refer to yourself in the third personIn post 1417, Accountant wrote:I don't like how he dismissed my post calling him out
It's fine to say Accountant is wrong and terrible, but to completely refuse to engage with that is very bad on zakk's part. I'm not sure if it's actual scummy thinking or just his cockiness though.
Also what did I refuse to engage with
Also yes I'm cocky AF-
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Did you read the links yes or noIn post 1434, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
I've bolded the very important points of zakk's original posting to show that his response is the timid response of scum who is trying to just say "You didn't read all my pointless links" and dodges the salient point that 565 is an attempt to paint Sir Cakez as scum for suspecting him that he later back-pedaled on like an All Pro lock-down cornerback.In post 565, zakk wrote:In every game where he is scum, he drums up the fact that I'm really good at scum, and that people shouldn't trust me.
Compare:
Kuribo in Wonderland: viewtopic.php?t=66574&f=56&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select%5B%5D=26092&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_sort=Go&hilit=zakk
Street Fighter Mafia: viewtopic.php?t=67071&f=3&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select%5B%5D=26092&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_sort=Go&hilit=zakk
Mass Effect Mafia: viewtopic.php?t=66512&f=56&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select%5B%5D=26092&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_sort=Go&hilit=zakk
Magical Girls Mafia: viewtopic.php?t=67527&f=23&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select%5B%5D=26092&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_sort=Go&hilit=zakk
Look at the way he constantly doubtcasts me, but ESPECIALLY as scum.
I got a hearty chuckle at the "Oh, you are playing bad" Ad Homenium. It's sad and makes me fairly sure I'm on track ...-
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I'm not trying to paint cakes as scum nor have I ever been
Saying he does something as both alignments, but especially as scum, and then linking to instances of him doing it as both alignments, and asking people to compare, is not saying "hey look you guys cakes is scum this game"
It's saying "hey look you guys cakes is doing the exact same thing he does every game
Also! Here's some information if you think you want to look further into it, but I don't think it's alignment indicative at this point "
You can either accept that explanation or not, there's nothing left to explain
Feel free to ask cakes to confirm or deny the validity of what I posted. note that he's not even hounding me anymore
Now it's just you. And it looks like you're trying to cause a distraction
Why do you think the wagon on me evaporated? It was because I stopped acting scummy on purpose, and that was one of the posts where I did it, and if you can't see that then that means you're either a) playing dumb or b) being dumb, so it's not at hominem it's just stating the facts
lol Magna you can't get me lynched for scum intent
There is none to point out-
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1386 is more doubtcasting by zakk. It’s like he said “hey, I can undermine SlySly’s reads with babble about playstyles and not call him scum”.[/quote]
This is exactly right.
I don't really think he's gone but I think his reads list is a pile of steaming crap.-
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Scummy areIn post 1249, Creature wrote:
What are your reads?In post 1245, PeregrineV wrote:At this point in the game, I am not for an Andrius lynch.
01 zakk
02 SirCakez
10 Nosferatu
11 Nahdia
12 Accountant
Need more are
01 zakk
02 SirCakez
08 Shiro
16 McMenno
17 SnarkySnowman
20 Leonshade
21 Andrius
22 massive
Want more are
14 Ankamius
15 SlySly
18 NarnaI will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Hey look I publicly admitted it if you post agoIn post 1419, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Given he uses his cockiness as a shield when playing scum I don't think giving him excuses is a wise course of action.In post 1417, Accountant wrote:I don't like how he dismissed my post calling him out
It's fine to say Accountant is wrong and terrible, but to completely refuse to engage with that is very bad on zakk's part. I'm not sure if it's actual scummy thinking or just his cockiness though.
Feel free to say that you "called it" LOL-
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You're missing magna in the scum partIn post 1441, PeregrineV wrote:
Scummy areIn post 1249, Creature wrote:
What are your reads?In post 1245, PeregrineV wrote:At this point in the game, I am not for an Andrius lynch.
01 zakk
02 SirCakez
10 Nosferatu
11 Nahdia
12 Accountant
Need more are
01 zakk
02 SirCakez
08 Shiro
16 McMenno
17 SnarkySnowman
20 Leonshade
21 Andrius
22 massive
Want more are
14 Ankamius
15 SlySly
18 Narna
And move me to town while you're at it-
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I'm still trying to determine that, for zakk and Nhadia.In post 1251, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Well toodles ... off to spend time with my family.
Zakk, Nhadia and Pepto are all grade A lynches.
@Peregrine- can you support any of those?
Let's see what Narna does for the Pepto slot.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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It looks like a dichotomous statement that probably cannot be backed up, and therefore will be ignored, but which, yes, does, lend itself towards scumreading Nhadia.In post 1254, McMenno wrote:
does this not look like setting up a mislynch to youIn post 1184, Nahdia wrote:Other:McMenno and Peptobislawl; I think there's 1 scum and 1 town in there. Really not sure which is which, could lynch either atm but would appreciate seeing content from a Pepto replacement beforehand obviously.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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OopsIn post 1440, Gamma Emerald wrote:zakk you broke the quote tag
Fixed! SryIn post 1439, zakk wrote:In post 1418, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
This is exactly right.In post 1439, zakk wrote:1386 is more doubtcasting by zakk. It’s like he said “hey, I can undermine SlySly’s reads with babble about playstyles and not call him scum”.
I don't really think he'sscumbut I think his reads list is a pile of steaming crap.
I was trying not to mega quote magnas huge post 1418 on mobile and look what it got me
Haha now you see why I do that-
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To me, this is saying that McMenno knows he could be wrong about Pepto, and knowing his own alignment, he probably sees this as no matter Pepto's flip, he would be next according to Nahdia's logic.In post 1269, Gamma Emerald wrote:
THISIn post 1254, McMenno wrote:
does this not look like setting up a mislynch to youIn post 1184, Nahdia wrote:Other:McMenno and Peptobislawl; I think there's 1 scum and 1 town in there. Really not sure which is which, could lynch either atm but would appreciate seeing content from a Pepto replacement beforehand obviously.
Why would he say it's setting up a mislynch if he scumreads Pepto.
McMenno has stated a scumread on Pepto. However, he is saying Nahdia is setting up mislynches. That must mean he believes both Pepto and himself are town.
Do you see the contradiction?
But, I get the angle your coming from. Do you have anything else that tells you McMenno is scum, or is this it?I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.
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