STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Not Chara]

oh, we do know who Yume voted for. nevermind, i have the full list now.

[Reasonably Rational]

Almost certain mastin and Yume voted for mastin, and Titus voted for herself.

I believe the numbers on mastin are either exactly right, or short exactly one point, depending on whether varsoon counted yume and mastins alliance with one another as making Yume's vote for mastin worth 2 points. It's not the normal alliance so no idea how he would interpret it.

-Cerb

[MagnaofIllusion]

And yet he isn't scum.

??

I'm telling you that I know he isn't scum since this game is specifically advertised as Non-Bastard.

So again - who are you moving on to as your next scum read?

[kraskaesque]

And yet he isn't scum.

??

I'm telling you that I know he isn't scum since this game is specifically advertised as Non-Bastard.

So again - who are you moving on to as your next scum read?

next on his list is creature who also isnt scum

[Not Chara]

RR: it's been called a permanent alliance, so that's how i'm treating it. someone tell me if this list is wrong anywhere. it's sorted by player voted for.

Rational: mastin (+1)
Skybird: mastin (+1)
Almost: mastin (+1)
Mastin: self (+3)
Yume: mastin (+2)

total: 8

Chara: self (+3)
Farside: Chara (+2)
total: 5

Titus: self (+3)
Kraska: Titus (+1)
Xkfyu: Titus (+1)
Grapes: Titus (+1)
total: 6

Shiro: none
Snarky: none
DGB: none
Random: none
Fuzzy: none (didn't answer?)
TWIE: none

Creature: shadow step
Magna: voted Rational
Shadow step: Almost
Fire: Rational

McMenno: self

[kraskaesque]

thanks chara
why did creature vote shadow and why did shadow vote almost

[Creature]

What did I miss?

[Creature]

I thought scum having their flavor revealed would be pro-town.

[Not Chara]

I thought scum having their flavor revealed would be pro-town.

did everyone miss the line right under that stating scum's flavour would be revealed as their

fake claim

?

[Titus]

Beach palooka analysis

Part 1 - at least one scum in RR, almost and skybird

Ok, here's where we are on the voting thing. There is one too many votes on Mastina. The mod said there were 7 votes. If everyone is being honest and not mistaken, there should only be 7. But Titus, I keep getting 7 votes by my calculations? Nope. 8. Mastina and Yume are in an alliance. Yume's vote on mastina counts as 2 votes. Yume and Mastina account for 5 votes. RR, almost50, and Skybird has at least one scum in it.

Part 2 - Why Votes on NC were selfish and irrelevant

We have 11 voters who did not vote for conftown or have their event in the leader board despite this event being announced for days. Like seriously, what the heck guys?

These players are: Snarky Snowman, DGB, Random, shadow Step, shiro, fuzzy, Magna, creature, Firebringer, TWIE, and McMenno.

The players that voted on the leaderboard removing scum:Farside, nc, Mastina, Yume, myself, grapes, Xkyfu, kraska, 1 of rr/almost/Skybird, one more of rr/almost/skybird

For every person scum suggest is scum in the voters who successfully voted myself, Mastina, or NC, there MUST be a corresponding player in those who did not vote Mastina, nc, or myself.

Part 3 - The balancing act - no more than 3 successful voters are scum. More than likely, 2 or less.

The rule that was divined was that each scum voter in the big block must have a corresponding buddy.

Removing the conftown and those we know to be scum, we see who is eligible to be scum.

We take me out being mod confirmed town.
We take out Mastina. Yume confirms Mastina. Mastina cannot be scum without Yume. Mastina being scum requires 7 scum to all act in concert. Just no.
We take out Yume. Yume is Steven. Pretty obvious.

That leaves Farside, NC, Kraska, grapes, Xkyfu, one of rr/Skybird/almost, one of rr/skybird/almost.

At maximum, there can only be three scum in those 7 names. Fewer if one of NC or Farside is scum. If more then three were scum, we would see eight or more scum, which is a farce. 7 total scum (which would be three names in that list) is pushing it.

If we go with the assumption of 6 scum, then we have an equation that solves for how many scum in each group. Just change 6 for whatever the actual number of scum are.

6 = 4(a) + 3(b) + 2(c) + d.

A = 1 if not Chara is scum. Otherwise A = 0.
B= 1 if Farside scum. Otherwise B = 0.
C = the number of scum in Kraska, grapes, Xkyfu, one of Skybird/almost50/RR, one of Skybird/almost50/RR
D = the number of scum in the lurkers not covering for a b or c.

This means the ideal play, minus the guilty on Farside, is to lynch within the no voters. If those who voted are town (even assuming Farside is town for sake of argument), then there are 4 scum in 11. That's a 37% chance to find scum. RR/Almost/Skybird is 33 % but certain.

Given that scum refused to divide themselves into neat little pools, they made it terrible play to lynch the players that successfully voted on the board, thus greatly hurting their chances.

[Creature]

I thought scum having their flavor revealed would be pro-town.

did everyone miss the line right under that stating scum's flavour would be revealed as their

fake claim

?

No, I thought scum gets a fake town rolecard and it gets revealed to public.

[Not Chara]

the mastin vote group must have

two

scum in it. if there was only one, her final vote result would have had a .5 value. this is excluding Yume of course, who if scum would give 1 to mastin. but she's obviously not scum.
two of those scum 0.5 votes became a single 1 vote together, leading to mastin's final result of 7.

[Not Chara]

removing the 5 points from Yume/mastin, Skybird/Almost/Rational contributed a total of 2 together. that's 1 point from the one town in there, and 0.5 points from the two scum.
...but. i'm not very good at math, and from your post i imagine you're much better at it. so did i make a mistake somewhere?

[MagnaofIllusion]

the mastin vote group must have two scum in it. if there was only one, her final vote result would have had a .5 value. this is excluding Yume of course, who if scum would give 1 to mastin. but she's obviously not scum.
two of those scum 0.5 votes became a single 1 vote together, leading to mastin's final result of 7.

No because scum can have claimed to be in the Not Voting / Voting for someone else pool while actually voting for Mastin. Which is I think (hard to tell with that much wordage) the point of Titus's post.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Question - has Firebringer faked a result on anyone this game?

[Creature]

VOTE: Skybird

[Not Chara]

the mastin vote group must have two scum in it. if there was only one, her final vote result would have had a .5 value. this is excluding Yume of course, who if scum would give 1 to mastin. but she's obviously not scum.
two of those scum 0.5 votes became a single 1 vote together, leading to mastin's final result of 7.

No because scum can have claimed to be in the Not Voting / Voting for someone else pool while actually voting for Mastin. Which is I think (hard to tell with that much wordage) the point of Titus's post.

if scum had added extra votes to mastin, she would have gotten more than seven.
if there's only one scum in Skybird/Almost/Rational, then that's 1+1+0.5 at

least

, not counting outside voters.
that's 7.5 points for mastin total. more than she received.

[kraskaesque]

Question - has Firebringer faked a result on anyone this game?

lol...he didnt

[Creature]

Or scum could've lied about voting mastin2?

[Not Chara]

i mean, you could argue that all three of Skybird/Almost/Rational are scum, and that an outside scum contributed votes there as well... but i really doubt it and it isn't relevant to the point i'm trying to make.

[Titus]

removing the 5 points from Yume/mastin, Skybird/Almost/Rational contributed a total of 2 together. that's 1 point from the one town in there, and 0.5 points from the two scum.
...but. i'm not very good at math, and from your post i imagine you're much better at it. so did i make a mistake somewhere?

This is a decent point. I didn't remember that two of them could be scum, because it didn't go with my theory that scum were deliberately no voting.

I think Jasper has to be in the pool, but that is getting ahead of myself. One in RR/Almost50/Skybird must be town, one must be scum. One is unknown.

[kraskaesque]

the mastin vote group must have two scum in it. if there was only one, her final vote result would have had a .5 value. this is excluding Yume of course, who if scum would give 1 to mastin. but she's obviously not scum.
two of those scum 0.5 votes became a single 1 vote together, leading to mastin's final result of 7.

No because scum can have claimed to be in the Not Voting / Voting for someone else pool while actually voting for Mastin. Which is I think (hard to tell with that much wordage) the point of Titus's post.

if scum had added extra votes to mastin, she would have gotten more than seven.
if there's only one scum in Skybird/Almost/Rational, then that's 1+1+0.5 at

least

, not counting outside voters.
that's 7.5 points for mastin total. more than she received.

yeah i was about to point that out
theres two scum there
but then again claiming to have voted mastin is kinda suicide?

[Not Chara]

removing the 5 points from Yume/mastin, Skybird/Almost/Rational contributed a total of 2 together. that's 1 point from the one town in there, and 0.5 points from the two scum.
...but. i'm not very good at math, and from your post i imagine you're much better at it. so did i make a mistake somewhere?

This is a decent point. I didn't remember that two of them could be scum, because it didn't go with my theory that scum were deliberately no voting.

I think Jasper has to be in the pool, but that is getting ahead of myself. One in RR/Almost50/Skybird must be town, one must be scum. One is unknown.

yes, that would be a good way to phrase it.

[Titus]

the mastin vote group must have two scum in it. if there was only one, her final vote result would have had a .5 value. this is excluding Yume of course, who if scum would give 1 to mastin. but she's obviously not scum.
two of those scum 0.5 votes became a single 1 vote together, leading to mastin's final result of 7.

No because scum can have claimed to be in the Not Voting / Voting for someone else pool while actually voting for Mastin. Which is I think (hard to tell with that much wordage) the point of Titus's post.

if scum had added extra votes to mastin, she would have gotten more than seven.
if there's only one scum in Skybird/Almost/Rational, then that's 1+1+0.5 at

least

, not counting outside voters.
that's 7.5 points for mastin total. more than she received.

yeah i was about to point that out
theres two scum there
but then again claiming to have voted mastin is kinda suicide?

That's why I think a) Jasper, the traitor, claimed to vote Mastina because either they were unaware of the plan for scum to forget or vote useless targets or b) there's two scum in the group.

[Titus]

the mastin vote group must have two scum in it. if there was only one, her final vote result would have had a .5 value. this is excluding Yume of course, who if scum would give 1 to mastin. but she's obviously not scum.
two of those scum 0.5 votes became a single 1 vote together, leading to mastin's final result of 7.

No because scum can have claimed to be in the Not Voting / Voting for someone else pool while actually voting for Mastin. Which is I think (hard to tell with that much wordage) the point of Titus's post.

I will try to condense it. Somehow...