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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:38 am

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:BM is probably protown. Only an idiot would try to lynch him at this point. *checks VC* Oh yeah...
ouch...that hurts...ummm, why do you think BM is protown? and why are those voting for him idiots?

did I miss a post?
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:27 am

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curiouskarmadog wrote:
Mastermind of Sin wrote:BM is probably protown. Only an idiot would try to lynch him at this point. *checks VC* Oh yeah...
ouch...that hurts...ummm, why do you think BM is protown? and why are those voting for him idiots?

did I miss a post?
Well, BM did something incredibly stupid (vote for a claimed mason twice). So whether or not you consider him to be scummy depends on how much WIFOM thinking you're willing to put into the situation.

I'm interested in seeing him finish his PBPA, though.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:39 am

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Unright wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:
Mastermind of Sin wrote:BM is probably protown. Only an idiot would try to lynch him at this point. *checks VC* Oh yeah...
ouch...that hurts...ummm, why do you think BM is protown? and why are those voting for him idiots?

did I miss a post?
Well, BM did something incredibly stupid (vote for a claimed mason twice). So whether or not you consider him to be scummy depends on how much WIFOM thinking you're willing to put into the situation.

I'm interested in seeing him finish his PBPA, though.
I am confused why MoS thinks BM is protown based on him voting for the claimed mason twice?..couldnt scum or town be incredibly stupid, why are these actions obviously town?
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:59 am

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curiouskarmadog wrote:
Unright wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:
Mastermind of Sin wrote:BM is probably protown. Only an idiot would try to lynch him at this point. *checks VC* Oh yeah...
ouch...that hurts...ummm, why do you think BM is protown? and why are those voting for him idiots?

did I miss a post?
Well, BM did something incredibly stupid (vote for a claimed mason twice). So whether or not you consider him to be scummy depends on how much WIFOM thinking you're willing to put into the situation.

I'm interested in seeing him finish his PBPA, though.
I am confused why MoS thinks BM is protown based on him voting for the claimed mason twice?..couldnt scum or town be incredibly stupid, why are these actions obviously town?
I think MoS is getting at the fact that i tend to concentrate alot more as scum. lol
will finish pbpa as soon as i get a chance.

@NL-its pretty poor logic just to say that you think i am town because i said that you were. I could be scum, sucking upto you. Draw your conclusions based on the CONTENT of my analysis, not on its final outcome.

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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:01 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:
Unright wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:
Mastermind of Sin wrote:BM is probably protown. Only an idiot would try to lynch him at this point. *checks VC* Oh yeah...
ouch...that hurts...ummm, why do you think BM is protown? and why are those voting for him idiots?

did I miss a post?
Well, BM did something incredibly stupid (vote for a claimed mason twice). So whether or not you consider him to be scummy depends on how much WIFOM thinking you're willing to put into the situation.

I'm interested in seeing him finish his PBPA, though.
I am confused why MoS thinks BM is protown based on him voting for the claimed mason twice?..couldnt scum or town be incredibly stupid, why are these actions obviously town?
I think MoS is getting at the fact that i tend to concentrate alot more as scum. lol
will finish pbpa as soon as i get a chance.
is this true MoS?
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:43 am

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Thinking BM is scum based on those votes is a classic case of WIFOM overuse. In addition, I *do* think that BM would try a bit harder to control what he says as scum. At best, if you don't consider it a town tell, no one should consider it any more than a null tell. If it's a null tell, it should be ignored, so people should not be voting him. If you consider it a town tell, you should also not be voting him. Therefore, I see no logical reason for anyone to vote him based on the mason votes. I think it's pretty dumb to do otherwise.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:49 am

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I will except that it could be a null tell for now...

unvote BM


going to reread again when I have a moment and see where to go now.
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:38 am

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Vote curiouskarmadog


The scummiest of the lot so far. Let's get some action.
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:33 am

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Sorry for my inactivity recently.

I smell a jester coming from BM which is incredibally ironic. *Looks to see where my vote lies*

Ehh

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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:03 pm

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Yay Woo Vote Count!


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JordanA24 (1) -- Mastermind of Sin
Mastermind of Sin (1) -- Sir Tornado
Unright (1) -- curiouskarmadog
curiouskarmadog (1) -- Dragon Phoenix

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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:15 pm

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Ahoyhoy. Rereading.
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:48 pm

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Alright
minor FoS: ckd
. I think he was opportunistic in jumping on BM, don't like post 185.
I was considering FoSing Nekka for lack of meaningful content, but then I saw he's planning to come to a decision soon, so I'll leave that for now.
Some of Jordan's first few posts were a bit scummy, mostly his overreaction towards DP in #2 (I'm searching posts by user here), but he seemed better later on.
If non-contributers are still hanging around (richman, Kakeng, and to a lesser extent mandalorian) you should post like now. From mandalorian's few posts I get a townish vibe, Kakeng hasn't said much but the no lynch vote is bad.
BM, DP, MoS all seem ok to me from a skim read, ABR and Gage claimed masons iirc.
So now I'll get around to looking at Unright and Porochaz a bit closer, didn't get much from them on first read.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:48 pm

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oh yeah
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:01 pm

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BM

I believe you have only analysed 6 people. This is a reminder. Next time will be a vote.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:28 pm

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Nekka-Lucifer wrote:BM

I believe you have only analysed 6 people. This is a reminder. Next time will be a vote.
I'm well aware. I had to concentrate on other games for a while, due to deadlines, and me having a large BW. I will finish off the player analyses soon. I dont understand in the slightest why you would consider this worthy of a bandwagon vote... :o

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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:13 am

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pete d wrote:Alright
minor FoS: ckd
. I think he was opportunistic in jumping on BM, don't like post 185.
I was considering FoSing Nekka for lack of meaningful content, but then I saw he's planning to come to a decision soon, so I'll leave that for now.
Some of Jordan's first few posts were a bit scummy, mostly his overreaction towards DP in #2 (I'm searching posts by user here), but he seemed better later on.
If non-contributers are still hanging around (richman, Kakeng, and to a lesser extent mandalorian) you should post like now. From mandalorian's few posts I get a townish vibe, Kakeng hasn't said much but the no lynch vote is bad.
BM, DP, MoS all seem ok to me from a skim read, ABR and Gage claimed masons iirc.
So now I'll get around to looking at Unright and Porochaz a bit closer, didn't get much from them on first read.
what about BM seems ok to you?
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:03 am

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curiouskarmadog wrote:
pete d wrote:Alright
minor FoS: ckd
. I think he was opportunistic in jumping on BM, don't like post 185.
I was considering FoSing Nekka for lack of meaningful content, but then I saw he's planning to come to a decision soon, so I'll leave that for now.
Some of Jordan's first few posts were a bit scummy, mostly his overreaction towards DP in #2 (I'm searching posts by user here), but he seemed better later on.
If non-contributers are still hanging around (richman, Kakeng, and to a lesser extent mandalorian) you should post like now. From mandalorian's few posts I get a townish vibe, Kakeng hasn't said much but the no lynch vote is bad.
BM, DP, MoS all seem ok to me from a skim read, ABR and Gage claimed masons iirc.
So now I'll get around to looking at Unright and Porochaz a bit closer, didn't get much from them on first read.
what about BM seems ok to you?
why are you still pushing this?
I thought you acknowledged that the case on me was crap, and that you were going to reread. Have you done this yet? :o
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:15 am

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I am not pushing the case, I understand why MoS sees your actions as a possible null tell because you are not paying attention to the game (thus the unvote), but I have noted the "mistake"

my question was to pete (not you)..I got an FoS for being opportunistic (because I voted for someone who voted for a claimed mason), yet you seem ok in his book, I wanted to know why you (BM) seemed ok in his(pete's) book...was there some action you did (or didnt) that you got the OK in his book?

in reference to the reread, I nothing really sticking out to me (other than previously discussed Gage, ABR, and BM actions). I understand DP vote (I think) and wonder if he has got any questions for anyone.
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:20 am

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curiouskarmadog wrote:I am not pushing the case, I understand why MoS sees your actions as a possible null tell because you are not paying attention to the game (thus the unvote), but I have noted the "mistake"

my question was to pete (not you)..I got an FoS for being opportunistic (because I voted for someone who voted for a claimed mason), yet you seem ok in his book, I wanted to know why you (BM) seemed ok in his(pete's) book...was there some action you did (or didnt) that you got the OK in his book?

in reference to the reread, I nothing really sticking out to me (other than previously discussed Gage, ABR, and BM actions). I understand DP vote (I think) and wonder if he has got any questions for anyone.
lol i love the way you put the word mistake in inverted comma's. :p
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:43 am

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the fact that you noted me is noted.. :lol:

so we have different scum finding tactics, speaking of which how is the rest of your PbP going?
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:48 am

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curiouskarmadog wrote:the fact that you noted me is noted.. :lol:

so we have different scum finding tactics, speaking of which how is the rest of your PbP going?
should be doing some more today, now i'm upto date with all my modded games, and a couple of my played games.

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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:36 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
PBPA – Mastermind of Sin

Starts the game with a typical random.org vote. I think his attack on Jordan is a slight over-reaction, but he makes a good point. He hasn’t given too much content to analyse, but I disagree with his colour choices (I’ve never seen a Cult listed as Green before-Green tends to mean Protown, and Blue is Neutral in my experience). But that’s by the by. I’ll be interested to hear his thoughts on the recent events, when he gets back.
In the meantime, as he is not giving me any real bad vibes (which he almost always does), I’d say he is Slightly Protown.
Edit to this PBPA. I'm moving MoS to Probably Protown, simply due to his accurate meta of me. Knowing my playstyle so well, i reckon if he wanted to fabricate a case on me (as he has done in the past) he could have done.

Meanwhile, CKD's recent play moves him from Neutral, to Fairly Scummy.
Not quite as scummy as Porochaz though.

More analyses forthcoming.

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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:48 am

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PBPA – JordanA24

I tend to be a little blind-sided by this guy. He hardly ever looks scummy to me. I remember being suspicious of him early in the game, but looking back, I cant see anything that conducive to scum. I don’t agree with his meta on Albert-I don’t think Albert’s play ever looks amazingly protown, and it’s a matter of differentiating between Albert-scummy, and Scum-scummy. I don’t think the setup speculation is especially useful at this stage. The only thing really peculiar about his claim, is his denial of supporting CKD’s point, and general copying of his argument. Overall though, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:49 am

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PBPA - Richman99


Chronic Lurker. Needs replacing. Nothing else to say on him.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:20 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
PBPA – Mastermind of Sin

Starts the game with a typical random.org vote. I think his attack on Jordan is a slight over-reaction, but he makes a good point. He hasn’t given too much content to analyse, but I disagree with his colour choices (I’ve never seen a Cult listed as Green before-Green tends to mean Protown, and Blue is Neutral in my experience). But that’s by the by. I’ll be interested to hear his thoughts on the recent events, when he gets back.
In the meantime, as he is not giving me any real bad vibes (which he almost always does), I’d say he is Slightly Protown.
Edit to this PBPA. I'm moving MoS to Probably Protown, simply due to his accurate meta of me. Knowing my playstyle so well, i reckon if he wanted to fabricate a case on me (as he has done in the past) he could have done.

Meanwhile, CKD's recent play moves him from Neutral, to Fairly Scummy.
Not quite as scummy as Porochaz though.

More analyses forthcoming.

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