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Post Post #2350 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:38 am

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In post 2348, Nero Cain wrote:Who was scumreading IaI? I'm p sure you were the leading wagon up to Maria getting mislynched. I'm p sure that you, Kranos and Michel were all scum reading me d1.

AI also dispute this "influence" claim. Like I told you fuckers Maria was just noise but no one listened to me.
You are conveniently changing what you said, not being scum read does not equal being universally townread. :neutral:
I was not around when the Maria lynched happened(?)
Also I don't think I was scum reading you day 1.
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Post Post #2351 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:42 am

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I'm not sure how you can think that IaI not being scumread=//=universly read as not scum=town.
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Post Post #2352 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:44 am

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In post 2351, Nero Cain wrote:I'm not sure how you can think that IaI not being scumread=//=universly read as not scum=town.
cause there is thing called fucking null?
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Post Post #2353 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:46 am

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ok who was null reading him?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #2354 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:14 pm

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titus, that's why she wanted him vigged

Anyway, where's Thor? The massclaim finished and he was the one pushing it... Did he get want he wanted?
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Post Post #2355 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:00 pm

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Thor is either busy or is scum lurking it out.
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Post Post #2356 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:02 pm

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hm, looks like the former

still i kind of would like to know what he's getting out of this
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Post Post #2357 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:06 pm

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vote:Shadow


I mean, I wouldn't really put it past Titus to roleblock me when I was scumreading and there is a part of me that thinks "well ok, I wasn't blocked last night so maybe I wasn't scum reading scum anymore" but it makes to much sense to not lynch Shadow today.
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Post Post #2358 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:08 pm

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but a scum doc makes sense with the GS and there we already so many nerfs that a scum rb doesn't make all that much sense to me.

So gun to my head? Shadow was docced last night.
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Post Post #2359 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:11 pm

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Shadow is also accusing
ME
of bussing Titus when it was Kranksa that also had an early scum read on Titus so why is he being selective here?
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Post Post #2360 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:17 pm

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VOTE: shadow
Probably a town flip
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Post Post #2361 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:17 pm

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Thor's the only person who hasn't weighed in on this, right? If so...

Intent to hammer Shadow


I think Vanilla Cop is a scum fakeclaim, not his actual role (as scum or town).

I might also wait for Michel to catch up because now that Titus flipped, his posts make a lot more sense and I think the way he's choosing to reevaulate is townie. I would like to hear what his full thoughts are pretty soon, even though he's making it to MYLO tomorrow (probably).

Pedit: Kraska no???
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Post Post #2362 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:18 pm

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note to self: don't fucking WRITE A WALL when you want to give intent :igmeou:
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Post Post #2363 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:20 pm

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though if Shadow does flip town then scum is prob Giga and kraska
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Post Post #2364 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:22 pm

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Getting real tired of this crap
Have you been reading stuff or no?
Shadow town flip means me and elyse confirmed
Giga is like so town it hurts
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Post Post #2365 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:26 pm

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Regardless of the flip, Karnos is the slot I'm scared of the most. I honestly cannot tell if he's lynchbait or not, he doesn't seem manipulative like he did last game but if it's not Shadow, then who...?
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Post Post #2366 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:26 pm

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ok, can you quickly explain why any of Michel, Thor or Karnos are scum if Shadow is town?
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Post Post #2367 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:26 pm

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^
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Post Post #2368 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:28 pm

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Because everyone else is town
Michel probably town because of early interactions with blitz
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Post Post #2369 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:30 pm

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In post 2365, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:Regardless of the flip, Karnos is the slot I'm scared of the most. I honestly cannot tell if he's lynchbait or not, he doesn't seem manipulative like he did last game but if it's not Shadow, then who...?
i take this back actually, I think Karnos makes perfect sense for a blitz partner regardless of Shadow's flip, that hammer on Maria could be stopping Kraska's deadline lynch from going through.
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Post Post #2370 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:34 pm

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I still believe that a balanced game is 50%VT+1 and 4 town prs are the max. Even in that game you showed with 5 prs the masons do shit all (ie no power) and while, yes, its reachy and tinfoily, I wouldn't put it past you to show that game in defense of Giga. Even with a 2x vig and tracker and 3xGS there is more power here.

I think that if Shadow is a town lynch then no lynching tomorrow is the optimal play so I don't really like Giga saying that she'd lynch over no lynch.

But hopefully Shadow flips scum and this can all be avoided.
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Post Post #2371 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:35 pm

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that quick hammer was p scummy though.
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Post Post #2372 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:36 pm

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Sure :roll:
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Post Post #2373 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:38 pm

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In post 2369, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 2365, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:Regardless of the flip, Karnos is the slot I'm scared of the most. I honestly cannot tell if he's lynchbait or not, he doesn't seem manipulative like he did last game but if it's not Shadow, then who...?
i take this back actually, I think Karnos makes perfect sense for a blitz partner regardless of Shadow's flip, that hammer on Maria could be stopping Kraska's deadline lynch from going through.
What about Thor? I'm iffy on him
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Post Post #2374 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:40 pm

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In post 2370, Nero Cain wrote:I think that if Shadow is a town lynch then no lynching tomorrow is the optimal play so I don't really like Giga saying that she'd lynch over no lynch.
did i say this... probably but

I only nl if nobody is confirmed town. There are times where Mylo is better than Lylo, and depending on what we get tomorrow it might be

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if shadow is town then I'm pretty sure it's Thor/Karnos anyway so... but I hate it when I only have a team via PoE because it usually means I'm wrong about something.
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