2 things I'd like to clarify before any possible claim.
Rishi wrote:Man, I am not sure about Sikario8's vote. However, I'm starting to lean against him as scum for a purely metagamed reason. White had been absent for much of Day 3 and then was replaced on Day 4. Obviously, the Mafia sent a kill during the night, and White has been completely absent from the site during the entire Night 3.
These meta-game arguments have gotten me in trouble in the past.
Can you in any way explain this argument further? I think you'll find nothing beneath the surface.
Guardian wrote:I think Sikario8's vote was iffy, but Jack's behavior really makes me think that role is town.
Guardian wrote:I think Sikario8's vote was iffy, but Jack's behavior really makes me think that role is town.
Explain iffy.
He seems to both be joining the strongest available wagon, and has little original thought in doing so. Also, even in describing what reasons he is borrowing from others to vote, I don't think he is using the stronger ones.
However, I am happy with the location of his vote.
Do not lynch me.
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Guardian wrote:I think Sikario8's vote was iffy, but Jack's behavior really makes me think that role is town.
Explain iffy.
He seems to both be joining the strongest available wagon, and has little original thought in doing so. Also, even in describing what reasons he is borrowing from others to vote, I don't think he is using the stronger ones.
However, I am happy with the location of his vote.
Then I am at this time refusing to claim until someone with actual suspicions on me aside from JUST BANDWAGONING LOLZ asks for it. Except for the people who are already voting me.
JDodge wrote:2 things I'd like to clarify before any possible claim.
Rishi wrote:Man, I am not sure about Sikario8's vote. However, I'm starting to lean against him as scum for a purely metagamed reason. White had been absent for much of Day 3 and then was replaced on Day 4. Obviously, the Mafia sent a kill during the night, and White has been completely absent from the site during the entire Night 3.
These meta-game arguments have gotten me in trouble in the past.
Can you in any way explain this argument further? I think you'll find nothing beneath the surface.
I agree that it's a weak argument.
But, my only point is that, during the entire Night 3 phase, White has not posted once on the site. In fact, he hasn't posted at all anywhere on the site since October 19, which leads me to believe he has permanently disappeared.
It's POSSIBLE that he popped in (after a prod or two), sent in a night kill and then disappeared again without posting in any games, but I find it somewhat unlikely.
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Shanba wrote:So who do you think is scummier? Honestly, we need some movement.
I've already said. I think Bookitty is the best lynch for today.
Also, even if I were thinking about hammering JDodge (which I'm not - at least not right now), I wouldn't do so without a claim. I don't want to risk losing our other power role.
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Whatever I do now, knowledge that Jdodge is lying is going to affect my play. I'm not convinced he's lying scum, but even if I pull off a perfect reaction to his claim the sole consequence is that my claim will be believed less. So, let's get it over with now.
I'm the roleblocker. Blocked HH n1, Set n2 and Bookitty last night. I think that should be fairly obvious, from my posts.
Jdodge, if you're gambitting, I'm sorry, but honestly I'm not good enough to not counterclaim here. If you are scum, then we've just won.
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I had Shanba down as a possible roleblocker with those exact blockings, which is why I went a bit easier on Bookitty, although I'm wary of letting that kind of assumption dominate my play, since I've wrongly assumed poweroles before.
It seems stupid for JDodge to fakeclaim as scum, and stupid to fakeclaim as town. JDodge, what's going on?
Primpod 11:13 pm
chamber can you please come to ukmeet
i would love to finally touch your face
heh. If I'm honest, Patrick, I had you down as doc, and doc who knew I was rber, after d2 you copied my "just a hunch" comment. That's why I added you to my suspicion list today, after thin_man turned up doc.
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Shanba wrote:Jdodge, if you're gambitting, I'm sorry, but honestly I'm not good enough to not counterclaim here.
What would be the purpose of this as a town gambit? I'm a bit confused.
If we assume Shanba is the roleblocker we can clear him and Bookitty. That leave 5 suspects, and we have 3 lynches. Maybe we can use Shanba to clear another person too though.
Primpod 11:13 pm
chamber can you please come to ukmeet
i would love to finally touch your face
I'm assuming Shanba is the blocker, that leads to Shanba and Bookitty town. Jdodge I get the feeling is town because it would be suicide to do that as scum.
Actually, is so WIFOM though... If he thought we'd think that, it would be a great move to do as scum.
Shanba, you will probably get killed tonight,
you should announce who you are going to block
so they are cleared as well going into the next day if you are killed. My advice: Patrick. Having him cleared would help out tremendously, he's on the bubble for me and I think he could win this as scum. That is for if/when we go to night.
Jdodge, I want you to explain your 'gambit'.
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God knows, Patrick. Ours is not to wonder why. But then, I've got this antsy feeling about it. Eh. Still, he's the lynch today.
Well, actually, I've been thinking about the consequences of me being outed, and decided they weren't too bad. I was planning on breadcrumbing my block tonight anyway, in the hopes of clearing someone: with me outed, there's no doubting who my block was on/is going to be on tonight. The thing is, if scum kill, they have to clear a player, a situation which benefits us. If they no kill, that also benefits us (and I'm taking missed kills as nulltells at this point). I'm not willing to say which I think benefits us more. Scum can work out their own strategy. I was hoping I could survive and clear another player tonight, which would have been a forced town victory. With my claim, it limits it to a likely town victory.
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Guardian wrote:
Shanba, you will probably get killed tonight,
you should announce who you are going to block
so they are cleared as well going into the next day if you are killed. My advice: Patrick. Having him cleared would help out tremendously, he's on the bubble for me and I think he could win this as scum. That is for if/when we go to night.
Patrick was who I was going to block anyway, and I see no reason to change that.
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Shanba wrote:Jdodge, if you're gambitting, I'm sorry, but honestly I'm not good enough to not counterclaim here.
What would be the purpose of this as a town gambit? I'm a bit confused.
If we assume Shanba is the roleblocker we can clear him and Bookitty. That leave 5 suspects, and we have 3 lynches. Maybe we can use Shanba to clear another person too though.
How does it make any sense for me to fakeclaim roleblocker (or anything for that matter) as the lone remaining scum? Especially when my lynch was imminent?
Everyone should weigh in - make sure we don't have a third claim. I say we lynch one of them today and the other tomorrow. Doesn't matter on the order.
Waiting for Sikario8 and Bookitty to check in before voting.
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Setael wrote:Interesting. I don't see how my vote is OMGUS since Guardian has never attacked me, voted me, or even accused me.
How about instead of just saying I need to die and voting me, you tell me why my argument is in any way faulty or doesn't make sense. Because... it's a decent case imo - much better than the non-existent case you have on me.
Shit, I confused this game with a different one.
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Unvote
A vote for Shanba, and then this:
JDodge wrote:
unvote, vote: Setael
diescumdie
Why would a roleblocker announce his results so quickly and call attention to himself, then unvote, retracting his suspicion, and then vote the person again?
Looks more like distancing and bussing to me.
unvote; vote JDodge
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