Open 54 - Basic 12 Player (over) before 529

[IH]

Post 52

[wank]

Wank overestimates his abilities. = )

Oman voted me out of hate. He wasn't even playing the game.

[Shanba]

Oman?

[IH]

Wank, what are you talking about?

First of all look at the rules.
Second of all you overestimate your own abilities.

[Ether]

4 Andycyca (IH, Crub, Elmo, Shanba)
2 appleof88 (Ripley, Patrick)
2 IH (JDodge, Glork)
2 Ripley (appleof88, wank)
1 wank (Andycyca)

1

Oman

Unvote (Sikario8)

12 alive; 7 to lynch.

[Elmo]

IH told me to.

Pretty sure he didn't. Do you frequently follow other people's votes without reason?

unvote wank

Why?

p.s. IH be answering Glork's question plz I'm interested in the answer too

[IH]

but I'm playing Ether Mafia! Not Fresno!

I am voting for Andy(1). I am doing this because he was obviously not reading, as all of his questions had not only been asked, but had also been answered(2). I miss things and am unnatentative, but he would have had to have read like one post and ignored almost the entire page to have missed that. (3) I think this is scummy because he's not hunting scum, but looking for a wagon that will stick instead of probing what it means.(*4)

*Bonus fourth sentence!

[Crub]

IH told me to.

Pretty sure he didn't. Do you frequently follow other people's votes without reason?

Yes.

[wank]

Wank, what are you talking about?

First of all look at the rules.
Second of all you overestimate your own abilities.

What are YOU talking about?

[wank]

IH told me to.

Pretty sure he didn't. Do you frequently follow other people's votes without reason?

Yes.

Do you have a reason for that?

[Crub]

IH told me to.

Pretty sure he didn't. Do you frequently follow other people's votes without reason?

Yes.

Do you have a reason for that?

Pressure = Good

[Andycyca]

@Patrick: I'm having a tough time hunting scum here, as I haven't seen anything particularly suspicious. All my suspicions right now are still in the "gut phase" The main gutscum to me is Crub, because his posts have been the less useful so far.

@IH: Glad you clarified that, but you know that [out of game] I'm in the end of term, which means heavy homework and exams and all that.[/out] That's the reason why I haven't read with 100% understanding, but your points 1 and 2 (about missing content) are true because of this.

I'm not "hunting scum" just because I don't have anything real to be suspicious about, only gut feelings.

[Crub]

@Patrick: I'm having a tough time hunting scum here, as I haven't seen anything particularly suspicious. All my suspicions right now are still in the "gut phase" The main gutscum to me is Crub, because his posts have been the less useful so far.

OMGUS gut

@IH: Glad you clarified that, but you know that [out of game] I'm in the end of term, which means heavy homework and exams and all that.[/out] That's the reason why I haven't read with 100% understanding, but your points 1 and 2 (about missing content) are true because of this.

Fair enough if you don't have time to participate in the thread, but surely you've either got enough time to catch-up with 20 posts before posting? And if you don't you should consider asking for a replacement.

[Andycyca]

[out of game]I am in just enough games for my attention span. I'm not /in'ing nor replacing anymore right now. I like treating games as a commitments, and that's why I feel bad for misreading and misunderstanding posts. I'll try to keep my playing at its top, and I will ask for a replacement if I feel I really can't follow up anymore. If anyone feels that I'm not really playing at my best, tel me and I'll openly ask for a replacement, no hard feelings. I'd hate to spoil a game because of my schedule and/or playing poorly[/out]

[Glork]

IH told me to.

Pretty sure he didn't. Do you frequently follow other people's votes without reason?

Yes.

Do you have a reason for that?

Pressure = Good

Alright, let's play ball.


What do you expect to get out of different reactions to bandwagoning-pressure?

[Crub]

Alright, let's play ball.

What do you expect to get out of different reactions to bandwagoning-pressure?

Forget reactions, the first thing I expect to get out of shakey bandwagoning is to promote some sort of general discussion for a start. Secondly it's more valuable judging reactions from people C, than from the bandwagonee. Pretty much no matter what sort of response you get from the bandwagonee is going to be a null-tell.

[Sikario8]

almost done reading amongst homework and school projects

[Sikario8]

but i AM present

[Glork]

Alright, let's play ball.

What do you expect to get out of different reactions to bandwagoning-pressure?

Forget reactions, the first thing I expect to get out of shakey bandwagoning is to promote some sort of general discussion for a start. Secondly it's more valuable judging reactions from people C, than from the bandwagonee. Pretty much no matter what sort of response you get from the bandwagonee is going to be a null-tell.

I'd say there's been plenty of discussion regarding non-bandwagon-related happenings. I'm not sure why you think wagoning is necessary to start discussion

And of course I'm talking about reactions from other people (hence the "different reactions" -- implying multiple reactions from multiple people). Not to sound like an arrogant bastard, but there's no need to tell me what you're trying to do.



Anyway, the point I was trying to make: Now that you've seen some reactions to your behavior, what do you think of those reactions? What information have you gained thus far?

[Patrick]

I feel like we're plodding along rather slowly here. Two people who haven't contributed anything as far as I can see are JDodge and sikario. JDodge, I know you're not a very verbose player, but surely you've got an opinion on something that's happened so far. Sikario, I don't know what your playstyle is, but you saying you've got nothing to add at the moment is useless. There's been several threads of conversation, pick something out that looks interesting and give an opinion on it. We can't get any read on your alignment if you sit there doing nothing. Please stop being lazy.

Ripley, what do you think of the wagon on Andycyca right now?

The only person I'm getting any protown vibe from at all right now is Elmo, though it's not very tangible, and he might be one of that increasing list of people who always strike me as protown by default. I liked his reasoning for his Andy vote the most out of the current voters (although I think the point about false dichtomy is a bit of a stretch and it seemed like Glork did virtually the same thing). Now I'm thinking about it, Apple also needs to post something, although now it's been laid out I'm starting to think there might be more on Andy. I'd give Andy a higher than 3/11 chance of being scum, but not much.

Crub's play hasn't done much for me so far, but I'll wait and see what he's got out of his pressure vote on Andy.

[Glork]

Sikario, I don't know what your playstyle is, but you saying you've got nothing to add at the moment is useless. There's been several threads of conversation, pick something out that looks interesting and give an opinion on it. We can't get any read on your alignment if you sit there doing nothing. Please stop being lazy.

This strikes me as being odd.


Would you say you usually find laziness/noncontribution to be a protown sign or a scumbaggo sign?

[Crub]

Haha if you don't want me to tell you what I'm trying to do don't ask

Anyway, the point I was trying to make: Now that you've seen some reactions to your behavior, what do you think of those reactions? What information have you gained thus far?

Not much, from this boring town, being controlled by you
You're neutral.
Andy gets town points.
Elmo loses town points.
Shanba is neutral.
Patrick loses town points.
IH gets town points.

[Patrick]

This strikes me as being odd.


Would you say you usually find laziness/noncontribution to be a protown sign or a scumbaggo sign?

You find it odd that I'm asking sikario to actually do something.

I'm not sure there is any usually. At this point I don't think it tells me anything about his alignment.

[Glork]

I find it odd that you seemed to imply that he's protown and just not acting well. It's like you're trying to coach/baby him into contributing, assuming that he's having a hard time as town, rather than thinking he may be lazyscum.


At least, that's just how I read it.

[Ripley]

Ripley, what do you think of the wagon on Andycyca right now?

I've had limited time for Mafia over recent days and haven't paid proper attention to this game. I'll need to reread before I can give you a sensible answer and won't realistically be able to do that till Sat evening or maybe Sunday.