Open 44 - Twofold Mafia: GAME OVER! before 506

[shaft.ed]

Sikario, I don't think it matters if you get replaced or not. You're not going to be lynched today and your the most likely NK for the night. But as others have mentioned, I'd change the sig. This game is moving pretty slowly and you still can't keep up.

It does matter, though. Even though he probably won't be lynched, he still gets a vote.

Bah you're right I phail. A 99% town vote is really an important one at that.

[somestrangeflea]

6

lordy - 4 (Rishi, Sikario8, ckillor, aioqwe)
Tobiassen - 2 (shaft.ed, Tobiassen)
ckillor - 1 (pwayne66)
Sikario8 - 1 (groinhammer)
Dasquian - 1 (JDodge)
JDodge - 1 (lordy)
Rishi - 1 (Dasquian)

Not Voting - TylerJ

12 alive, 7 to lynch, 4 at deadline.

Sikario has requested replacement. =(

Deadline in 5 days 22 hours, 14 minutes

[Tobiassen]

Replacements don't get a clean slate. And you're still doing very little to move the game forward.

On the contrary, replacements are easier to dedect if they're scum, because if the first player is acting scummy and then the replacement is also acting scummy, it's a probability that he really is a scum.

and imo im moving the game forward as hell,
no matter who i'll vote or what isay.

[Tobiassen]

Unvote

[shaft.ed]

You're clearly not making any sense. I can't tell if it's deliberate or not, but this is the last time I'll bother refuting you point by point.

Replacements don't get a clean slate. And you're still doing very little to move the game forward.

On the contrary, replacements are easier to dedect if they're scum, because if the first player is acting scummy and then the replacement is also acting scummy, it's a probability that he really is a scum.

Your response doesn't even address the point I brought up. I didn't say anything about detecting scum from replacements, I just pointed out you are starting from a scummy position. You don't start the game with a clean slate. When you replace for a scummy player we start with the assumption that you are also scummy until you prove otherwise.

and imo im moving the game forward as hell,
no matter who i'll vote or what isay.

How can you be "moving the game forward as hell" if your votes and statements don't matter. This is absolutely ridiculous. So far you have posted zero content. This is the closest I could find to any game related discussion:

Full House

ChronX - 3 (Rishi, Sikario8, ckillor)
Sikario8 - 2 (groinhammer, lordy)
ckillor - 2 (pwayne66, shaft.ed)

Not Voting - aioqwe, Tobiassen, TylerJ, Jdodge, Dasquian

12 alive, 7 to lynch, 4 at deadline.

Deadline in 12 Days, 1 Hour, 36 Minutes.

hmm, i see a pattern here. both Ckillor and Sikario8 voted for ChronX, and they both got 2 votes on them self now.,
So to get balance in the system we need to get 2 votes on Rishi.

Voting for Rishi so that Rishi Sikario and ckillor all have to votes. Nice addition.

This is one of the most informative statements you have made:

I have no idea what im trying to achieve with this post, im just doing it.

[Tobiassen]

what do you have against me O.o

I'm going to cry myself to sleep :/

[TylerJ]

Honestly I just feel more jumbled. I guess it is because I am tired. But reading the analysises I added Dasq and I think Rishi on my list.

I like the bit about Dasq and Chronx being a team. I'll have to consider it. But as a disagreeing note. The reason why we thought Chronx was suspicious was because he wanted a claim. Dasq wanted the same thing, so for Dasq to find him suspicous for that would be hypocritical. But they could have done this working on a team (double the pressure).

If lordy (chronx) turns out to be scum, I will know who to at least consider.

So not only do I have someone to vote for that I already think is scummy. I also have something to go off of depending on the result.

All this to say

Vote:lordy

[Sikario8]

Good luck to the replacement

Vote: Lordy

[Tobiassen]

hmm
looks like poor lordy is going down O.o

[Tobiassen]

Sikario, you cant vote for lordy, you've allready done that O.o

[Tobiassen]

Vote Sikario8

Reason :

i find it scummy to trow in a vote on a man that clearly is way up in deep shit valley, when he himself if quiting the game and requesting replacement.


and im very sorry, i've done the all so huge sin of tripple posting O.o

[Dasquian]

Oh for god's sake.

I don't know if Tobiassen is totally clueless or what, but how much am I going to let slide here?

Sikario is our claimed, uncountered doc.

Unvote Rishi, vote Tobiassen

. It's been one long string of nonsensical action after another and none of them are helping the town. I'd rather this lynch to lordy's by a long shot, even though I'm not particularly hot on either.

[pwayne66]

Do you think Tobiassen is scum?

[Dasquian]

I don't get scummy vibes, but there is every reason to vote him. Max was useless and so far Tobiassen has done only stupid things:

- Ask whether he should vote or not
- Vote for himself
- Suggest voting for the

mod

- Vote for the claimed doctor

About the only game action he's made that I can begin to comprehend is an OMGUS vote on shaft.ed. Honestly, he looks more newbie than scummy, but with a deadline approaching, a bandwagon I don't like leading the votes, and my preferred choice not getting any support, I'm switching to someone I think we're far better rid of even if he's town but who also has a good chance of being scum based off of his irrational behaviour.

What

is

the case against lordy, anyway? I'm sure it's back in the last ten pages or so but I'm sure the many people on his bandwagon will be more than happy to reiterate it.

[Rishi]

I'm baffled why Tobiassen would vote for someone who most of us agree is probably the doctor.

I still can't tell if he's really clueless or just pretending to be clueless. His vote is harmless for now, but I would hate to have him alive in an endgame situation.

I also don't like how TylerJ just reiterated other people's opinions and made an opportunistic vote on lordy.

Gah... so much scummy behavior and only one vote. I hate to not take a definitive stance, but I am going to hold my vote and see how this develops. I also don't want lordy to get a couple more quick votes.

Unvote

[aioqwe]

HoS: Tobia

I'm getting a newb-scum read off him now, for several reasons
1) hyper-activity, triple posts, some scum lurk to win but I'm pretty sure some newbs in there first couple games like the idea of a "strong" role and convey that excitement in excessive activity (especially if that activity isn't helping town.
2) his random votes and suggestions for who to vote (the mod?)
3)

I'm looking back to see who could be his partner, I doubt they're too happy with him...

and as rishi said he isn't exactly the one you want to have in endgame if he's town...

[Rishi]

HoS: Tobia

I'm getting a newb-scum read off him now, for several reasons
1) hyper-activity, triple posts, some scum lurk to win but I'm pretty sure some newbs in there first couple games like the idea of a "strong" role and convey that excitement in excessive activity (especially if that activity isn't helping town.
2) his random votes and suggestions for who to vote (the mod?)
3)

I'm looking back to see who could be his partner, I doubt they're too happy with him...

and as rishi said he isn't exactly the one you want to have in endgame if he's town...

You seem somewhat sure that he is scum. So, my question is why use a Hand of Suspicion instead of a vote? Tobiassen is only at two votes (he unvoted himself).

[Sikario8]

Vote Sikario8

Reason :

i find it scummy to trow in a vote on a man that clearly is way up in deep shit valley, when he himself if quiting the game and requesting replacement.


and im very sorry, i've done the all so huge sin of tripple posting O.o

You need a little more experience

[Rishi]

Sikario - Do you want to be replaced or not? Because, the way that you keep posting, it seems like you still want to be in this game.

Really, you should stay in the game. I think you're keeping up just fine, and it saves somestrangeflea the trouble of finding YET ANOTHER replacement.

And I won't complain about your signature any more if you stay in the game.

[Sikario8]

ALRIGHT MOD: DON'T REPLACE ME

I need to get to work though, I want to play seriously this time around

[shaft.ed]

Vote Sikario8

Reason :

i find it scummy to trow in a vote on a man that clearly is way up in deep shit valley, when he himself if quiting the game and requesting replacement.


and im very sorry, i've done the all so huge sin of tripple posting O.o

You've got to be kidding me. Your first actual contribution to the game is to vote for a claimed Doc? And you did so because he voted for someone he was already voting for?

my votes in the right place.

[shaft.ed]

Oh for god's sake.

I don't know if Tobiassen is totally clueless or what, but how much am I going to let slide here?

Sikario is our claimed, uncountered doc.

Unvote Rishi, vote Tobiassen

. It's been one long string of nonsensical action after another and none of them are helping the town.

I'd rather this lynch to lordy's by a long shot

, even though I'm not particularly hot on either.

I found this statement a bit out of place. The list of Dasq/lordy connections continues to grow.

[Dasquian]

Look, I've already stated that I don't really see the lordy case, and asked for people to restate it in case I've just missed out on something compelling (no one has, yet). You shouldn't be surprised that this opinion doesn't radically change from post to post.

If you want to keep painting a connection between me, go for it. It's not like I'm being subtle about not agreeing with the lordy case. At this point, I'm almost wondering if

you're

lordy's scum-buddy, trying to set me up if he gets lynched. You seem very keen to link me with him, anyhow.

[Sikario8]

Hmm...I'd like to further assess you, Dasquian, and your playing style - you're bluntness adds a nice touch to your posts...

[Dasquian]

Um... feel free? Was there anything in particular you wanted?