Mini Normal 1829 - Game Over

[karnos]

Just a couple pages into re-reading.

Spoiler: holy crap this makes transcend slot look like scum with blitz

this wagon sucks

Why do you town read Blitz?

I don't

But the way she's been wagoned is dumb.

We cannot ascertain whether the vote that Blitz made was her being scum strengthening the BW to achieve a ML or town applying pressure to get the game going.

IT'S THE REASONS HE VOTED BLITZ. THEY DON'T LOOK GENUINE. IT CAN BE A BUS, IT CAN BE HIM VOTING TOWN. BLITZ'S ALIGNMENT ISN'T CONFIRMED FROM THIS.

[kraska77]

wow that was disappointing
read the part of blitz's iso where thor was going to replace out

[karnos]

Okay game solved:

VOTE: Nero Cain

VOTE: gigabyteTroubadour

Both soft defended blitz early in the thread, and both have acted scummy besides that. I have to do some work so I can't really read through the entire thread right now, and weekends are typically low activity time for me, but if I have some extra time I'll see if I can do the full re-read.

[karnos]

Yeah, so by PoE I am not scum reading shadow right now.

[karnos]

wow that was disappointing
read the part of blitz's iso where thor was going to replace out

Do you read my comments in that part of the thread? Persivul did the same thing to GreyICE, and greyICE was replaced (just like transcend), and in the end it was revealed Persivul & GreyICE were both scum.

[karnos]

Read this page of Open 640:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=225

Perisvul and GreyICE were both aligned as scum.

I think it closely mirrors the interaction between blitz getting sick of transcend's personal attacks and pointing them out to the mod. I certainly don't think those actions rule out a blitz|transcend scum team.

[kraska77]

wow that was disappointing
read the part of blitz's iso where thor was going to replace out

Do you read my comments in that part of the thread? Persivul did the same thing to GreyICE, and greyICE was replaced (just like transcend), and in the end it was revealed Persivul & GreyICE were both scum.

that is one thing, the bullet points blitz posted on why transcend's playstyle was scummy is another
they're blatant shit because titus has lots of meta with towntranscend

[kraska77]

you can see how transcend immediately did a 180 on his read on titus after that too

[gigabyteTroubadour]

just a comment: titus has a well-established meta of never bussing her partners, yet she was doing everything she could to ensure I could get lynched. Why is she attempting to bus this time?

serious posts coming when i come home

[Nero Cain]

at least one of Giga/Shadow is scum.

[Elyse]

VOTE: shadow

This was JarJar's first post of Day 2 so yeah it looks like he checked Shadow.

Do we really think two investigative roles is likely? I could see scum having a doc, thinking there's a gunsmith, and shadow claiming vanilla cop because it's an easily faked role and shows up guilty.

[Nero Cain]

in http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=67071 the scum (Titus included) were bussing the fuck out of one of her scumbuddies. So I think she'll bus if need be or if it helps in the long game.

[Nero Cain]

he'd be a third investigative. Tracker-gunsmith-vt cop

[Nero Cain]

but no town protective role? Giga is a sorta protective though....

[gigabyteTroubadour]

at least one of Giga/Shadow is scum.

he'd be a third investigative. Tracker-gunsmith-vt cop

^this makes sense though

vanilla cop is next to useless and is more like a miller. false results for tracker+gunsmith. ascetic just makes it worse

ascetic also nerfs both of them. i can die btw, I'm not a protective.

Vig/VCop/Tracker/Gunsmith/Ascetic is EXACTLY what I thought the set-up was yesterday.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

2009 does not make sense btw, misquote

[kraska77]

but no town protective role? Giga is a sorta protective though....

?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

nero seems to be under the impression i'm bulletproof ascetic

[Nero Cain]

its protects herself from scum actions assuming that there is scum beyond a protection role.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

oh

I guess? It's more of a net-negative for us though because usually town ascetics claim D1 and aren't paired with other PRs, so...? It's a free investigation for scum PRs (trackers would get no result anyway, rolecops aren't getting anything useful, etc.) and it's ambiguity for town. But having a lot of investigative power with an ascetic makes sense.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

in http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=67071 the scum (Titus included) were bussing the fuck out of one of her scumbuddies. So I think she'll bus if need be or if it helps in the long game.

i don't rly remember street fighter but i don't remember the ranger wagon getting much traction? it was more DISTANCING than BUSSING iirc, i don't think titus was getting out of her tunnel.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i don't think titus was getting out of her tunnel.

^in ref to this game

ebwop

[Nero Cain]

yes, yes it does.

I'm just having a hard time getting my head around a 4th town pr.

[kraska77]

Yeah exactly, asceticw claim day 1 so scum actions get concentrated on a smaller pool where it is relevant anyway so...

[kraska77]

yes, yes it does.

I'm just having a hard time getting my head around a 4th town pr.

Hmm gimme a sec
This is reminding me of a past game I'd like to forget