STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[MathBlade]

Playing while reading. It is a thing Mastina.

I respond and read. Your entire case is I have a life and haven't read 200 pages. That is your case and it sucks.

[Klingoncelt]

I will shortly say (or maybe I had already said?) why I think it's very unlikely that they're both scum. I short, I find it implausible that the scum team would have two ascetics , and even more unlikely that neither of those ascetics would actually claim.

Has anybody considered either NOT being ascetic and just faking it to avoid being targeted by night investigative action?

DGB claimed 'some sort of' Ascetic. Not regular Ascetic.

[mastin2]

It wasn't a joke post.

You know. I've been debating on whether to comment on this, but I think that I should speak up here.

You are right.
It was

not

a joke post.
Klingoncelt was actually serious there.

And I understand your perspective on things and why you'd think it was a scumslip...
...But it's actually

not

.

If Klingoncelt is scum, then it would not be for that reason. I 100% guarantee you this. Klingoncelt could be town, could be scum, but that post has a non-joke meaning that makes sense coming from town.

I can tell you this because I'm a miller, and I know what she'd be talking about. It's not an indicator of her alignment, trust me. I'm trying to beat around the bush a little on the details here because I'd rather not disclose them, but I 100% guarantee you that what she said there was not a scumslip.

[MathBlade]

Out for now yo. Next post will be close to 8 as I reread.

[Bold Vote Scientist]

I'd also like to note:
farside and Not Chara fighting Mathblade's battle FOR Mathblade are reason for both to be town when Mathblade flips scum (because that'd be incredibly stupid, especially on farside's part), buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut...

You two are doing exactly that:
Fighting Mathblade's battle for Mathblade.

Why didn't you let MATHBLADE respond to the points against them? Why did you defend them?
Why didn't you see whether Mathblade would defend themselves?

Because, since you did it for them, they have no need to do so anymore, and if they do bother to, they can simply parrot the points

you made for them

.

So while I'm glad you're towning it up with those plays...I'm also ticked off that you did so, not thinking about the consequences of your defense.

Disagree on them towning it up. It seems more like scum boxed in, and they cannot afford a lynch on scum.

[Titus]

I'd also like to note:
farside and Not Chara fighting Mathblade's battle FOR Mathblade are reason for both to be town when Mathblade flips scum (because that'd be incredibly stupid, especially on farside's part), buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut...

You two are doing exactly that:
Fighting Mathblade's battle for Mathblade.

Why didn't you let MATHBLADE respond to the points against them? Why did you defend them?
Why didn't you see whether Mathblade would defend themselves?

Because, since you did it for them, they have no need to do so anymore, and if they do bother to, they can simply parrot the points

you made for them

.

So while I'm glad you're towning it up with those plays...I'm also ticked off that you did so, not thinking about the consequences of your defense.

Disagree on them towning it up. It seems more like scum boxed in, and they cannot afford a lynch on scum.

My bad.

[mastin2]

so if we do have corrupted gems, they are 3rd party.

Just like we don't have multiball in this game, I guarantee you we don't have third parties in this game. It's purely town versus scum. Corrupted gems are therefore either town or scum. It wouldn't surprise me if at least one corrupted gem is on the scumteam. It is also a given there's at least one corrupted gem on the town's side.

[mastin2]

were you tip-toeing around something, Xkfyu?

I recognize what you're seeing!

My response:
Please drop it!

It is not a pro-town line of discussion to prod at Xkfyu today.

[Titus]

I guess I am back...
I really thought I was dead.

Hi Fire... welcome back. Where are you reading?

[Firebringer]

I had been keeping up with the game.
I miss talking to Shiro in our chat.

I guess the "crystal gems" locked me up in a bubble. I thought I was dead just waiting on flip.
W/e, still think that one gem is scum.

[Firebringer]

If the gems are town locking me up, I want to side with the scum.

[Titus]

I had been keeping up with the game.
I miss talking to Shiro in our chat.

I guess the "crystal gems" locked me up in a bubble. I thought I was dead just waiting on flip.
W/e, still think that one gem is scum.

Ok, can you give us your thoughts then on Math? Farside? Dgb? Who would king fire lynch?

If you think Farside is town, how can these conversations be less like pulling teeth?

[mastin2]

I really thought I was dead.

I suppose I owe you all an explanation.
I do in fact have knowledge about the mechanic which caused Firebringer's removal. This is knowledge that is 100% true--not a guess. I had the knowledge to KNOW about it.
...HOWEVER, I did in fact

misinterpret

an aspect of the mechanic. I thought Firebringer was dead, but I misread. Again. Apologies for the confusion there. I held back from correcting the mistake since I knew it'd be self-evident I had made the mistake when Firebringer would return to the game.

All the same, what I said was largely true: I know what caused Firebringer's removal from the game.
But at this time, it would be best for me to not reveal the details of this.

[Titus]

I really thought I was dead.

I suppose I owe you all an explanation.
I do in fact have knowledge about the mechanic which caused Firebringer's removal. This is knowledge that is 100% true--not a guess. I had the knowledge to KNOW about it.
...HOWEVER, I did in fact

misinterpret

an aspect of the mechanic. I thought Firebringer was dead, but I misread. Again. Apologies for the confusion there. I held back from correcting the mistake since I knew it'd be self-evident I had made the mistake when Firebringer would return to the game.

All the same, what I said was largely true: I know what caused Firebringer's removal from the game.
But at this time, it would be best for me to not reveal the details of this.

Ok, can you answer whether it is town or scum? Or is that too much?

[mastin2]

Who is scum if I am town (which I am).

I have ideas and directions.
These are largely things I am not sharing at the moment.

I have at least three players (RR, Xkfyu, Klingoncelt) who are on "parole": they have chances to prove they are town. There are some other players who also sort-of fit that category. I also have some hard-townreads. I have a somewhat-limited pool of potential scum. But because there are too many variables in place before that (namely, the players on parole), I can't give an accurate pin on the game because there's a need for things to happen first that have yet to happen.

Basically, I can tell who isn't scum.
But you're the only player I can tell for sure is scum.

[mastin2]

Ok, can you answer whether it is town or scum? Or is that too much?

The power causing a lack of a flip was not a scum power. I said this before, and it's still true now.

[farside22]

i don't think Shiro's push there in particular was scummy. it also is really not a slip, unless there is another post where Klingon forgets ghat isn't this one.

Here's the other issue, Titus was the player saying that was why Shiro was scum reading kling.
She doesn't allow Shiro to speak for herself and defends her with excuse after excusr.
This includes the meta references I gave that she still bypasses repeatedly.

This is a case of the kettle calling the pot black. YOU never let KC respond directly to Shiro's case. You literally intercepted the push, took over and bounced it back at Shiro.

Like, if I accept your interpretation (that it was a joke/sarcastic response) then -by contrast- KC must be claiming NOT being a Crystal Gem at all. Fine, I'll accept that (for now). Now what's with her obsession with Peridot?

That case was awful.

It was a stretch

[Titus]

Ok, can you answer whether it is town or scum? Or is that too much?

The power causing a lack of a flip was not a scum power. I said this before, and it's still true now.

Ok, so to be clear, the scum kill is missing according to your knowledge?

[MathBlade]

Except I did respond. And I pointed out where I responded.

It is factually inaccurate to say I did not give reads and to say my reads are OMGUS

Now I have one meeting to do then rereading.

Mastina isn't this bad.

@Mastina please respond.

On my way to the office again in a bit to do a through read after I finish up something here

[Titus]

Meaning fire was not the scum kill?

[MathBlade]

Gee it is almost like scum tried to kill me and couldn't so now they want to mislynch me.

[Firebringer]

I had been keeping up with the game.
I miss talking to Shiro in our chat.

I guess the "crystal gems" locked me up in a bubble. I thought I was dead just waiting on flip.
W/e, still think that one gem is scum.

Ok, can you give us your thoughts then on Math? Farside? Dgb? Who would king fire lynch?

If you think Farside is town, how can these conversations be less like pulling teeth?

No read on math, maybe scum
Dgb is null
Far side bad town.

King fire would lynch Klingon

[Firebringer]

Gee it is almost like scum tried to kill me and couldn't so now they want to mislynch me.

Why in the duck would scum go for kill on you?

[Titus]

How can I have Farside not constantly discrediting because it is me?

[Firebringer]

For reals I want kling dead the most. Pretty sure she trapped me in that bubble