Mini 1830 - Game Over

[Gamma Emerald]

And this means...?

[House]

And this means...?

Apparently it means you either don't know what you're doing or your simply scum trying to sideline me from my interest in Huntress for some reason.

Either way, I won't be dissuaded by your sophomoric posturing.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay. I'll drop it then.

[Grendel]

Hello House.

I'm surprised you subbed into a game with me. Going off that mini we were in together I thought you didn't like me. Or at the very least thought I was an awful player.

Which would be fair since I was scum reading you for your abrasive attitude. Sorry about that one.

[House]

This, however, can only be a few things:

A lazy town
A scum

A town with an ulterior motive

What ulterior motive might town have?

Examples?

[House]

Hello House.

I'm surprised you subbed into a game with me. Going off that mini we were in together I thought you didn't like me. Or at the very least thought I was an awful player.

Which would be fair since I was scum reading you for your abrasive attitude. Sorry about that one.

You'll learn... Abrasive House is Town House.

Scum House is much friendlier.

That's why I always preach about motives.

[House]

@

Grendel

Spoiler: Not Game Related

I don't dislike you. You frustrated me, yeah... But a lot of people do.

I reacted the way I did for reasons that are not pertinent to this game, so I won't go into them. If you are curious why after the game is over, feel free to ask in PM.

[Grendel]

I think that the slot you've inherited is probably town. It was between Rhazhbash and Gerry for a while, and ultimately I have disliked Gerry's play much more.

Trouble is that I don't really think GerryxGamma makes a lot of sense.

B/c I really doubt scum would overtly buddy one another D1. What is your opinion there?

I think what I'm looking at is ManuelxGerryxGamma scum team by defuelt due to them being my strongest scum reads. Manuel and Gerry make a lot of sense imo. I may need to look into more possibilites later though.

Pre-edit: re-non game
Thanks. I'm glad that what happened there didn't expand past that game. I felt pretty bad about it later.

[House]

I think that the slot you've inherited is probably town. It was between Rhazhbash and Gerry for a while, and ultimately I have disliked Gerry's play much more.

Trouble is that I don't really think GerryxGamma makes a lot of sense.

B/c I really doubt scum would overtly buddy one another D1. What is your opinion there?

I think what I'm looking at is ManuelxGerryxGamma scum team by defuelt due to them being my strongest scum reads. Manuel and Gerry make a lot of sense imo. I may need to look into more possibilites later though.

Pre-edit: re-non game
Thanks. I'm glad that what happened there didn't expand past that game. I felt pretty bad about it later.

I don't have a handle on Gerry yet, but I can get behind a Manuel and Gamma team (from individual reads, not associatives).

Don't fall into the trap of thinking scum would never do something.

I've powerlynched many a townie because "all the scum would never vote the same wagon".

I've lolhammer as scum and gotten away with it because "scum world never draw that much attention to themselves".

Don't do that. It's bad.

Judge alignment based on motive, not assumptions of what scum won't do.

[House]

@Grendel: What is your read on Square?

I dont like how Square world playes but its not a reason to lynch him.

If Manuel flips red, I'll be rather interested in him.

[eagerSnake]

@ eagerSnake: - Why feel the need to tell everyone (in 6) that you're not making a random vote? And why attack Victor for his vote in 74 rather than ask for an explanation?

I opened the way I did to give people something to talk about and maybe get discussion started. I said that Victor's 74 could come from scum or town, and gerry had already asked for an explanation.

This, however, can only be a few things:

A lazy town
A scum

A town with an ulterior motive

What ulterior motive might town have?

Examples?

1 example:

The only other side of this is when town hides their thoughts because they have the ulterior motive of gauging a reaction. This is sometimes useful, but should be retroactively explained.

[House]

Fair, thanks.

[House]

I said that Victor's 74 could come from scum or town,

What was the point in calling it out if it's NAI?

[eagerSnake]

Partly as a note to myself, partly because I was trying to get some discussion around Victor so I could get a better read on him. His response was not the pro-town response I was hoping for, so I voted him.

[House]

Liking eager for town.

[eagerSnake]

Huntress, are you fully caught up?

[House]

Why does Gamma feel like town? I feel like what he's said is basically what I've said when it comes to the setup. Also, I still think it's not needed to talk about what kinda PRs we have

I get a jealousy vibe from this post.

Did it bother you that Gamma got a townread for something you also did? If so, why?

[House]

The page 3 stuff between Snake and Gamma is 100% fluff. I don't see how Victor can be scumreading snake for it either. Regardless I don't see it as alignment indicative.

Also a huge pet peeve of mine is when people waste too much time on setup spec. Setup spec won't win Town the game, so quit it and start posting some real content.

i think this is the worst post so far. He basically repeated what I said and then gave a read that snake and gamma was fluff when everyone has been fluff so far.

If That made "the worst post so far", and "repeated what you said", what does that say about what you said?

[eagerSnake]

Yeah we also had the reverse side of that jealousy:

Newbie games have nine players, two of whom are Mafia. Here we have eleven players.

Three mafia sounds about right to me.

Why did NO ONE call him out for the reasons they called me out?

[House]

Wtf is up with all this meta?? Literally everyone has just been talking about meta for the last 2 pages. Focus on this game

This looks contrived.

First, you complain that everything is null. Then you complain that people refer to meta.

If everything is null, what else is there to read someone by? I can certainly understand branching out to meta as a natural progression when the game content has not been helpful.

[House]

Yeah we also had the reverse side of that jealousy:

Newbie games have nine players, two of whom are Mafia. Here we have eleven players.

Three mafia sounds about right to me.

Why did NO ONE call him out for the reasons they called me out?

That was Gamma regarding CCC, though.

Besides, I already like Gamma for scum.

[House]

My Reads-
Town:

VictorDiAngelo

- His posting style is pretty refreshing, and after looking over his ISO, that comment about statements holding up isn’t that bad.

Grendel

- As said before, he doesn’t do this as scum, but he’s only been scum once on both sites he plays on, so I may be way off base here. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Manuel87

- He seems to be playing honestly.

Gerryoat

- He has been a voice of reason so far for this game.

Scum:

RhazhBash

- hasn’t really posted anything of substance other than 135, I feel.

CCC

- I mentioned the part about him being consistent on scumteam size as well, but here’s the interesting part: he attacked me for my comments about it. Got anything to say for yourself, bud?

EagerSnake

- He seems to be deflecting what people say quite a bit.
Null:

TheJester

- I’ve seen a mixture of Eager’s deflecting and Gerry’s being the voice of reason in this one.
Insufficient Participation:

GreenNope

- hasn’t posted once.

SquareWorld

- only posted twice, and they were small.

With all of this in mind, I think I know who I want to vote for.
VOTE: CCC

Although it generally goes against site meta to townread your team as scum, I can see someone new to the site not wanting to implicate their buddies.

These two townreads look extremely superficial, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if one or both were scum with him if he flips red.

[House]

My Reads-
Town:

VictorDiAngelo

- His posting style is pretty refreshing, and after looking over his ISO, that comment about statements holding up isn’t that bad.

Grendel

- As said before, he doesn’t do this as scum, but he’s only been scum once on both sites he plays on, so I may be way off base here. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Manuel87

- He seems to be playing honestly.

Gerryoat

- He has been a voice of reason so far for this game.

Scum:

RhazhBash

- hasn’t really posted anything of substance other than 135, I feel.

CCC

- I mentioned the part about him being consistent on scumteam size as well, but here’s the interesting part: he attacked me for my comments about it. Got anything to say for yourself, bud?

EagerSnake

- He seems to be deflecting what people say quite a bit.
Null:

TheJester

- I’ve seen a mixture of Eager’s deflecting and Gerry’s being the voice of reason in this one.
Insufficient Participation:

GreenNope

- hasn’t posted once.

SquareWorld

- only posted twice, and they were small.

With all of this in mind, I think I know who I want to vote for.
VOTE: CCC

Although it generally goes against site meta to townread your team as scum, I can see someone new to the site not wanting to implicate their buddies.

These two townreads look extremely superficial, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if one or both were scum with him if he flips red.

Fixed for clarity

[Gamma Emerald]

It seems everyone decided to go my way and just decide there's 3 mafia. Interesting.

[eagerSnake]

It seems everyone decided to go my way and just decide there's 3 mafia. Interesting.

It's the safest assumption for now, I think.