Micro 643: Desperation Day (Game Over)

[Gamma Emerald]

I think it's possible to rig, but I kinda want to do it anyway.

[xyzzy]

wait, if you think it's possible to rig, why do you have no qualms about doing it? that doesn't make any sense and is... unsettling, to say the least.

BlackStar, the idea is to maximize the likelihood of hitting scum on day 3 while minimizing the odds of hitting town on both days, and to plan this in such a way that it's not feasible for scum to break it (either by manipulating the results in their favor or by choosing night kills with full info on how every member of the town feels about every other player).

there are four ways days 2 and 3 can play out: 1)we lynch scum both days, town wins, 2)we lynch town both days, scum wins, 3)we lynch scum day 2 and town day 3 and go to day 4 with 1:2 lylo, or 4)we lynch town day 2 and scum day 3. scenarios 1 and 4 are ideal, scenario 3 is manageable, and scenario 2 if obviously bad. my plan is designed to maximize the odds that we get scenario 1 or 4. a big part of avoiding the bad scenarios is by denying scum the full set of information they would need to maximize the value of the night 2 kill.

[BlackStar]

Gamma/mas y Menos
Alchemist21/xyzzy
Comparing realities/BTD6_maker

[Gamma Emerald]

@xyzzy: I don't really think the rigging is super likely, and it's a good place to start.
@BlackStar: what is that?

[BlackStar]

Oh, I didn't alphabetize it.

Pedit: what he asked for

[Comparing Realities]

I still think XYZ is really really scummy.
I don't know if its just bias.

I really thought the game was Key and XYZ.

BTW again, fuck that self hammer when we had more than 10 days left.

~Mas Y

This is what I likely think it is in:

Gamma Emerald/XYZ
Gamma Emerald/Comparing Realities
Comparing Realities/Gamma Emerald
Comparing Realities/XYZ

I think its one of those 4 pairs.
Really really unsure which.

I am pretty conf on Alchemist and Blackstar.
Pretty sure BTD6 is also town.

~Mas Y

And yet me and Gamma remain your biggest scumread why, exactly...?

D3 lynch, I beg you guys.

[Comparing Realities]

Well, barring unforseen arguments that convince me otherwise. I was wrong on key anyway.

[xyzzy]

a reads list with 3 people each in two categories (scum/not scum) with our lists alphabetized

also, I feel like there should be consensus on whether this is a good idea before anyone actually posts a list. also, popcorning.

[Gamma Emerald]

a reads list with 3 people each in two categories (scum/not scum) with our lists alphabetized

also, I feel like there should be consensus on whether this is a good idea before anyone actually posts a list. also, popcorning.

Well Mas and BlackStar already did it, I'm pretty much down for it, you suggested it...any major objections?

[BTD6_maker]

Blackstar, Comparing Realities, Gamma Emerald

Alchemist21, Mas y Menos, Xyzzy

[BlackStar]

Blackstar, Comparing Realities, Gamma Emerald

Alchemist21, Mas y Menos, Xyzzy

Which line is scum and which line isn't?

[Gamma Emerald]

First is town, based on past reads.

[BlackStar]

First is town, based on past reads.

Mine had scum first

[Gamma Emerald]

And Mas's can be concluded by process of elimination.
How you format it doesn't matter, it's the fact you do it.

[callforjudgement]

Vote Count

Comparing Realities

(1): Mas y Menos

BlackStar

(1): Alchemist21

Gamma Emerald

(1): BlackStar

Not voting

(4): Comparing Realities, Gamma Emerald, xyzzy, BTD6_maker

With 7 votes in play, 4 votes are required for a lynch.
Deadline is Sunday 2 October at 01:15 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-10-02 01:15:00)

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[xyzzy]

well, I guess the whole concept of popcorning kind of went by the wayside, but whatevs

(scum)/(not scum): (Alchemist21, Gamma Emerald, Mas y Menos)/(BlackStar, BTD6_maker, Comparing Realities)

[BlackStar]

And Mas's can be concluded by process of elimination.

How you format it doesn't matter, it's the fact you do it.

I wasn't trying to argue that. I thought that when you said "based on past reads" you meant based on the past lists that the rest of us made. Mine was different, so I said that. I didn't get that you meant based on his past reads

[Alchemist21]

Gamma/mas y Menos
Alchemist21/xyzzy
Comparing realities/BTD6_maker

This format still confuses me.

Is it:
scum
null
Town

or is it:
(scum/town)
(scum/town)
(scum/town)

or is it some other way?

[Gamma Emerald]

The important part is that it's 3 town, 3 scum. I'd suggest doing one line for each, with Town or Scum before it. Like:
Town: A,B,C
Scum: X,Y,Z

[Alchemist21]

I'm talking about Black Star's reads specifically.

From what I can tell in his other posts, his 3 scumreads should be me, gamma, and xyzzy. The way he's got it seems like he's either got Mas y menos as a scumread above both myself and xyzzy, or he's Townreading xyzzy and scumreading CR now. Neither really make sense based on his past posts.

[Gamma Emerald]

Judging by the fact he says he had scum first, I assume it's
Town: Mas, xyz, BTD
Scum: GE, CR, Alchemist
@BlackStar: is this correct?

[BlackStar]

Gamma/mas y Menos
Alchemist21/xyzzy
Comparing realities/BTD6_maker

The left side is scum and the right side is town.

[Alchemist21]

So how did CR get in the scumreads and Xyzzy in the Town reads?

[BlackStar]

So how did CR get in the scumreads and Xyzzy in the Town reads?

Xyzzy being scum was dependent on key being scum. Plus I reread his iso and it wasn't really that bad. CR has basically been floating around making large posts that basically say nothing. I don't scum read him, but X asked us to divide everyone into the 2 groups so i put him with scum. He's null.

[BTD6_maker]

VOTE: Mas y Menos

This is my strongest scumread. Personally, Alchemist is currently slightly weaker than Xyzzy, but both are scumreads.
If a consensus for second scumread is clear, I will switch.