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[kraska77]

Hey shadow, put blitz at l-1 pls

[JarJarDrinks]

Why the hell would I claim a vanilla cop then? Why not claim a cop and say that I have a town result on whoever the fuck I want because I would know everyone's alignment.

Well Vanilla cop doesn't confirm anyone as town.

If u claim cop then you'd have to tell us that Gerry is town (I'm assuming he's town if ur scum) and then u couldn't park ur vote there like ur doing right now.

[kraska77]

I think giga is scum. I think transcend did a gambit and tried to buddy maria the town. giga has also seemingly been ok with voting pretty much anyone so far.

VOTE: giga

This.

Giga will vote anyone and practically every slot has been counterwagoned against Giga. Might as well be a neon sign scum aren't bussing and Giga is scum.

Probably won't be active during weekend so I'll just go ahead and say the above feels like blitz painting a target on gerry's back

[Elyse]

VOTE: Blitz

L-1

[JarJarDrinks]

Hey shadow, put blitz at l-1 pls

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[Shadow_step]

Why the hell would I claim a vanilla cop then? Why not claim a cop and say that I have a town result on whoever the fuck I want because I would know everyone's alignment.

Well Vanilla cop doesn't confirm anyone as town.

If u claim cop then you'd have to tell us that Gerry is town (I'm assuming he's town if ur scum) and then u couldn't park ur vote there like ur doing right now.

Yeah I claim a town result on Gerry and then I can easily claim I was rbed on all the other nights . I'm voting you BTW. Nice try

[Shadow_step]

INTENT

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I like my vote but I think we're going a little fast. That could just be me getting used to the shorter deadlines though.

Shadow, I'm really liking Jarjar for town. Why are you scumreading him?

[Shadow_step]

I like my vote but I think we're going a little fast. That could just be me getting used to the shorter deadlines though.

Shadow, I'm really liking Jarjar for town. Why are you scumreading him?

Because of his reaction to my claim and post that.
First thing he did was that he voted someone else so I think he obviously believed what I said. Scum would want to get off a T pr wagon asap.

Then he probably realised it would look bad and started doubting my claim again. I can't quite wrap my head around that.

Then he wants town consensus whether he should be voting me again or not. Like he's paranoid about doing that and wondering how it would look. Scared of derailing the blitz wagon sounds like bs. We weren't 24 hours from deadline or something.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Hm, interesting... I felt his read progression was really natural but I will definitely reevaluate.

atm this is what my head looks like:

Town: {Kraska, Thor, Nero, JJD, Michel}

??? i can't sort these people: {Elyse (I scumread her play but the way her wagon developed felt like another scumread of mine from another game so?? might be confbiasing), Shadow_Step (not entirely fond of approach towards the game but claim seems town), gerryoat (unreadable)}

Scum: {Karnos, Blitz}

so with only 2 scumreads, I am very likely townreading scum (unless it's a karnos/blitz/gerry team or smth). i haven't had any time irl to really re-read and take notes like i like to but i definitely am going to have to take a second look at everyone

[JarJarDrinks]

I like my vote but I think we're going a little fast. That could just be me getting used to the shorter deadlines though.

Shadow, I'm really liking Jarjar for town. Why are you scumreading him?

Because of his reaction to my claim and post that.
First thing he did was that he voted someone else so I think he obviously believed what I said. Scum would want to get off a T pr wagon asap.

Then

he probably realised it would look bad

and started doubting my claim again. I can't quite wrap my head around that.

Then he wants town consensus whether he should be voting me again or not. Like he's paranoid about doing that and wondering how it would look. Scared of derailing the blitz wagon sounds like bs. We weren't 24 hours from deadline or something.

Why would it look bad?

[MichelSableheart]

Sorry team, had a very busy couple of days, and I'm having trouble thinking straight. I'll probably go to bed in a moment, expect a more thorough post tomorrow morning. I'll have to think if I believe that claim, among other things.

In the meantime, I'm not happy with the blitz wagon. It's being pushed by three of the four players I have most doubt about. With giga, nero and shadow all supporting it, karnos is my only scumread who hasn't mentioned being in favour of this wagon.

[JarJarDrinks]

Shadow isn't exactly supporting it. He was coerced into giving intent.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

What do you mean "coerced"? If you think Kraska suggesting Shadow to do that is scummy, why are you supporting the wagon...?

[kraska77]

I'm not happy with the blitz wagon

That's a good sign

[JarJarDrinks]

What do you mean "coerced"? If you think Kraska suggesting Shadow to do that is scummy, why are you supporting the wagon...?

Maybe coerced isn't the right word.

I don't @ all think that Kraska telling shadow to vote blitz is scummy. My point is that Shadow doesn't want to vote for blitz (his scumbuddy) but doesn't really have much of a choice @ this point.

If blitz flips scum then shadow gets zero towncred for it.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

ooooh. ok that makes sense lol

i was picturing kraska holding shadow at gunpoint and demanding him to hammer and it felt rly weird... kraska would never

[kraska77]

Ya I said "pls"!!!!!

[gerryoat]

I don't see what Blitz has done to be at L-1 that wagon formed very fast. Right now I'd say Giga and Elyse are scum.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

kraska i have this nagging feeling gerry is being/was coached

thoughts something feels unnatural about him but i'm not good at tone reads in online mafia

@Gerry, like together or what

[kraska77]

I would like to listen to the dead...especially since Maria seems to be very familiar with him, but then again... the stuff i said in post 1602
What do you think of that? Blitz is toast, so obfuscating associations is what I expect her to do

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I can't decide honestly. I guess it's more likely that 2/3 of the scumteam ISN'T going to vote one after the other, but I don't think I can get lynched without Gerry's vote. The interaction is just weird, and I'm not sure what the strategy of any of the people I am scumreading is. Does scum!Blitz actually WANT me lynched (Meaning that Gerry is likely town)? Or is scum!Blitz just trying to make me a counterwagon that never gets traction (meaning that blitz and gerry could viably be partners distancing)?

[kraska77]

I think it's the latter. I mean she has nothing else to say at this point anyway. But that's not even distancing
It doesn't look like one atleast

[kraska77]

There's not much else she could say at this point*
Is a better way to word it

[Elyse]

I don't see what Blitz has done to be at L-1 that wagon formed very fast. Right now I'd say Giga and Elyse are scum.

I'm coming for you next