Mini Normal 1829 - Game Over

I Am Innocent · Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:10 am

*karnos who has no votes

kraska77 · Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:14 am

Shadow also pissed off everyone in open 649, was very low activity and focused on only one player the entire game
He almost got lynched when he announced his guilty bc no one believed him lol

kraska77 · Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:15 am

So no I won't vote him

I Am Innocent · Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:17 am

In post 1377, kraska77 wrote:So no I won't vote him

ok, noted.

karnos · Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:18 am

In post 1363, kraska77 wrote:
This Maria wagon is bad
maria, Nero, iai, giga, shadow, gerry
Get on blitz or karnos with me pls

What exactly is your thinking?

I must be scum because I'm not voting MariaR, who you think is town?

INTENT TO HAMMER

Maria, make your case, claim.

I Am Innocent · Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:20 am

In post 1379, karnos wrote: Maria, make your case, claim.

really, a claim?

kraska77 · Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:21 am

In post 1379, karnos wrote:I must be scum because I'm not voting MariaR, who you think is town?

No
Bc Your reads list is bad
And don't you hammer

karnos · Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:22 am

In post 1380, I Am Innocent wrote:
In post 1379, karnos wrote: Maria, make your case, claim.
really, a claim?

Good point, it's almost pointless to wait. I think I'll just hammer now.

karnos · Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:23 am

In post 1381, kraska77 wrote:
In post 1379, karnos wrote:I must be scum because I'm not voting MariaR, who you think is town?
No
Bc Your reads list is bad

How do you know? Do you have perfect knowledge of the scum in this game?

I Am Innocent · Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:24 am

In post 1382, karnos wrote:
In post 1380, I Am Innocent wrote:
In post 1379, karnos wrote: Maria, make your case, claim.
really, a claim?
Good point, it's almost pointless to wait. I think I'll just hammer now.

yeah, since nero claimed cop and thor doctor, maria can't be anything really worthwhile...

I Am Innocent · Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:25 am

kraska u really think karnos is scum???

kraska77 · Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:26 am

In post 1383, karnos wrote:
In post 1381, kraska77 wrote:
In post 1379, karnos wrote:I must be scum because I'm not voting MariaR, who you think is town?
No
Bc Your reads list is bad
How do you know? Do you have perfect knowledge of the scum in this game?

You put the entire playerlist as either null or probably something

karnos · Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:27 am

More like I was thinking, after lying about being a Mason is any claim going to be believable?

Not really.

karnos · Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:27 am

In post 1386, kraska77 wrote:
In post 1383, karnos wrote:
In post 1381, kraska77 wrote:
In post 1379, karnos wrote:I must be scum because I'm not voting MariaR, who you think is town?
No
Bc Your reads list is bad
How do you know? Do you have perfect knowledge of the scum in this game?
You put the entire playerlist as either null or probably something

Do YOU have perfect knowledge of anyone's alignment? Because I don't, other than myself of course.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:28 am

In post 1355, kraska77 wrote:GIGA, TALK TO ME
Blitz is scum, shadow is town
Why do you disagree with this
Especially shadow...I thought you of all people here would see this given that we just finished a game with him
Also I can explain why blitz is scum but why aren't you even considering that....

(I'm replying to thor later)

aaaaah ok

I have no clue what to think of Blitz... Like I put her as a townlean but I have nothing to really make me feel GOOD about that read but it's there.

Shadow weirds me out this game. I feel like, yeah, he pissed people off with his Maria read but he DID things with it, this shadow seems to just park a vote on someone and calls it pressure. Karnos and gerry are both slots that Shadow "pressured" but there really isn't anything to pull a read on them from.

Please talk about Blitz though... i mean for tomorrow but still

kraska77 · Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:28 am

unvote first then we talk

I Am Innocent · Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:29 am

In post 1387, karnos wrote:More like I was thinking, after lying about being a Mason is any claim going to be believable?

Not really.

What about shadow...his wagon is growing?

You can always move to Maria later...

Let's make this exciting peeps!

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:29 am

I wouldn't be surprised if she made a PR claim.

I was only half joking when suggesting she'd show up and claim a 3rd role.

I Am Innocent · Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:30 am

In post 106, karnos wrote:VOTE: Shadow_step I don't like this new avatar.

Come on karnos, remember that avatar u hate!!!

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:31 am

kraska77 wrote:unvote first then we talk

I'm probably not going to, maybe I'd vote for Shadow but that's it... I dislike the Karnos wagon mostly because of an ongoing game, so I can't really talk about it.

karnos · Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:32 am

In post 1390, kraska77 wrote:unvote first then we talk

VOTE: MariaR

Caution: That is L-0 folks.

kraska77 · Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:33 am

I h8 u karnos

karnos · Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:34 am

In post 1396, kraska77 wrote:I h8 u karnos

Maybe a nice red flip will change your mind.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:35 am

Thanks kankles

MichelSableheart · Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:41 am

Grr, so no time to complete my read. Thanks. Will have to post what I have then.

In post 1113, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 1112, MichelSableheart wrote:The way that giga combed through Elyse's post, finding fault with most of them, feels like giga starts out wanting to suspect Elyse and then goes looking for reasons, rather then giga suspecting Elyse and explaining her reasons. The way Elyse dealt with the mason claim, and the fact that she may be lining up the giga and maria lynches are valid reasons to suspect her. I would expect town giga to focus on those, rather then criticize almost every post in detail.
Why does explaining why I think an ISO shows a scum-thought process imply I have an agenda? Elyse asked me why I suspected her since I was asking for other people's reads on her, and I felt that if I showed how I came to the conclusion that she was my strongest scumread then people would understand. I've never played with you before so I don't know if this is a misrep, but this feels like confirmation bias.

If you genuinely suspected Elyse, it would be because of the way she dealt with the mason claim, and the fact that she may be lining up lynches. So when answering the question why you found elyse scummy, you would focus on those points. You would quote 416 and 462, and explain why those post contradict with her vote at the time.

Going through her entire ISO and discussing each post in detail is not the result when you want to explain why you feel suspicious of her. It's the result of you thinking "People want to know why I suspect this player, so let's go through their ISO and see what I can find".

And that's more likely to come from scum, who has to make up reasons for their suspicions, then from town, who only has to explain their reasons.