I think I may get the point now, actually. You don't like to discuss mathematical probability because you find it distracting, same with reading wall posts. Well, news flash, the math was only part of a debate about whether we should no lynch the first two days.
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
Which is a pointless discussion. Math isn't going to change people's minds on the matter, it's dumb and arguing over it has nothing to do with alignment.
callforjudgement, just so you know, you have 2 votes listed for rb and none for me—it looks like you removed me from the list of people voting for Mas y Menos instead of rb.
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In post 33, xyzzy wrote:also I don't trust your home site as a good source of info because that's entirely dependent upon the site meta. does your home site focus on mostly setups with lots of power roles, for instance? if so, those numbers are completely irrelevant to this game.
Likewise, I dont trust your math at all because it hasn't been tested by practical application.
Theory math sucks.
~Mas Y
the mathematical probability of certain events happening is literally half of the entire basis on which the balance of mafia games is based (the other half is that town is, on average, not that good). you're arguing that town should do something that is objectively not in their best interest when you have direct evidence for why that's the case right in front of you
VOTE: Mas y Menos
I'm analysing votes to see which are good and which are rubbish.
On its own, Xyzzy is arguing that Mas y Menos is scum for suggesting the wrong thing. I agree that Mas y Menos is wrong to ignore the theory maths but I doubt this is scummy. If Mas y Menos is scum, they should be proposing what they think is the most pro-Town way to play, otherwise they risk drawing attention to themselves. Their play has been divisive, making some people scumread them and some people Townread them. Of course, a possibility is that this is what they could have been hoping for as scum. Overall, this is probably NAI and definitely not a scumtell, and I don't like Xyzzy's justification for voting.
"one of these days i'll read you correctly" - Transcend, Micro 714
First of all, On that post, You said we should just skip D1 and D2 because we auto win when we lynched a Mafia D3. So how do we lynch scum if we don't have any evidences and info?
NL-ing on D1 and D2 is never a good choice. There's still a chance that if we lynched a mafia D1 or D2, We can use some things that he town read the most, Which have a possibility it's his scum buddy.
For me, you are the most scummy here and I don't get your point.
VOTE: Mas y Menos
Same thing here. Apart from making the wrong decision on whether to lynch, what is so scummy about Mas y Menos?
"one of these days i'll read you correctly" - Transcend, Micro 714
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Plus, your arguments are plain non sense. Why? It doesn't involve scum hunting; You're arguing about CR's wall post which is meh; Can you explain more clearly why are you voting for xyzzy?
If you don't like this game, consider replacing out.
VOTE: rb
That looks like you're alluding to an ongoing game. Please stay well away from any mention of ongoing games; just because you don't say their name, that doesn't necessarily mean it's impossible for people to work out what you mean (and if you
want
people to work out what you mean, you're pretty much talking about the game directly). — callforjudgement
|| Mini Normal 1848 || The Hogwarts Mafia || Valentine's Day || The Divergent Series || Another Mafia || Cities & Beaches || Moonlight || 13 Reasons Why ||
|| Mini Normal 1848 || The Hogwarts Mafia || Valentine's Day || The Divergent Series || Another Mafia || Cities & Beaches || Moonlight || 13 Reasons Why ||
Also to be clear I'm not arguing over CR's wall. People are overreacting and acting like I'm not reading the game, when I am. It took them 40 posts to realise this because it's actually them not paying attention. Now it's you.
|| Mini Normal 1848 || The Hogwarts Mafia || Valentine's Day || The Divergent Series || Another Mafia || Cities & Beaches || Moonlight || 13 Reasons Why ||
In post 135, xyzzy wrote:I wanted to hear what rb actually had to say about this before I did this, and now I've heard what rb has to say about it, and... like... yikes
I'm gonna keep my vote on Mas y Menos because I feel like they're trying to fly under the radar so that we'll forget anything scummy they've done, but rb is definitely a solid lynch candidate at the moment
BTD6_maker has hardly said anything at all, and hasn't really said much of anything of substance. not a huge fan of that.
Wait, how are we trying to fly under the radar?
I was the one attracting the most attention in the first 5 pages?
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Plus, your arguments are plain non sense. Why? It doesn't involve scum hunting; You're arguing about CR's wall post which is meh; Can you explain more clearly why are you voting for xyzzy?
If you don't like this game, consider replacing out.
VOTE: rb
That looks like you're alluding to an ongoing game. Please stay well away from any mention of ongoing games; just because you don't say their name, that doesn't necessarily mean it's impossible for people to work out what you mean (and if you
want
people to work out what you mean, you're pretty much talking about the game directly). — callforjudgement
Like if XYZ is scum, this looks like a chainsaw vote.
I don't think scum, unless very experienced and already known for disliking large posts, would get as confrontational about a single wall-post as rb has. I think scum would be more inclined to say "Fine, I'll look back over it," and not call this much attention to themselves.
VOTE: BTD6_maker
BTD strikes me as the flying under the radar type. I'd like to see more thoughts from him, especially harder stances than "This is mostly NAI."
Not to be an ass to you Alchemist.
But why you keep referring to stuff as drawing attention or flying under the radar?
The game has 9 players.
ITS VERY VERY HARD for anyone to fly under the radar, so why would that be a concern for scum?
Scum are going to have to pay attention in the game because by sheer numbers thye can't just lurk out of the game.
I don't know. I don't like that argument in this context.
I have read BTD6 as scum before, and I don't know about him now but it doesn't feel the same as that other game.
That might be just because he reads me as town I think though.
Regardless of the size of the game, scum wouldn't want to do anything that calls certain attention to themselves because they don't want people taking a harder look at their slot. That may be harder to do in a micro, but the natural desire would still be there, and any scum that thinks they could get away with it would try it.
I'm not gonna state it now 
