"Wow, I didn't know you wanted to be an actor!"
-Steven
"That's because...
I'm very good at acting."
-Jamie,Love Letters
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"Wow, I didn't know you wanted to be an actor!"
-Steven
"That's because...
I'm very good at acting."
-Jamie,Love Letters
Yes, why indeed. Why would Yume become confirmed town after mastina the self-proclaimed mason has Yume the person who confirmed mastina in the first place as town. Almost like there's some form of mutual confirmation going on, in a private thread. If only there was a name for that.In post 1070, Almost50 wrote:WHY has Yume become semi-confirmed after Mastina put her at the top of her reads??
Okay.In post 1107, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:@Farside, I would like to get on the same page as you and Mastina.
Can you just highlight where we're wrong in your opinion?
DGB's a bit too high. RR is a viable lynch, because they are scum. X is scum. Cooldog isn't. Kraska isn't. Seraphim's not my top pick. SnarkySnowman's more likely town than not. Creature's one of my stronger townreads. SirCakez there shouldn't be ANY doubt at all about; dude's obvscum. And Killthestory shouldn't even remotely be a scumread.In post 1104, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Lean Town
DGB
Don't want to lynch today but I see the points
RR
Needs More
X
Lean Scum
CoolDog
ScumReads
Kraskaeaque (kraska77 + lycanfire)
Seraphim
SnarkySnowman
Creature
Hard to Place, Would lynch
Cakey
KilltheStory (beeboy and I strongly disagree here, willing to go along with him)
So let the sir wagon happen then.In post 1380, mastin2 wrote:That moment when you feel like you're surrounded by self-destructive, stubborn morons who all arepartiallyright and yet are overly focused on the parts theyaren'tright on, and you're trying to figure out a way to get them to stop focusing on those parts and focus on the parts they got right.
vaguelyIn post 1373, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Hatchling, you remember that game don't you?In post 1369, Firebringer wrote:dragons aren't babies.In post 1367, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Baby, do you remember Suikoden?
We are hatchlings.
Get it right Titus.
I came around on Cakey as being a partner of NC due to the rule of 3.In post 1378, mastin2 wrote:Okay.In post 1107, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:@Farside, I would like to get on the same page as you and Mastina.
Can you just highlight where we're wrong in your opinion?DGB's a bit too high. RR is a viable lynch, because they are scum. X is scum. Cooldog isn't. Kraska isn't. Seraphim's not my top pick. SnarkySnowman's more likely town than not. Creature's one of my stronger townreads. SirCakez there shouldn't be ANY doubt at all about; dude's obvscum. And Killthestory shouldn't even remotely be a scumread.In post 1104, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Lean Town
DGB
Don't want to lynch today but I see the points
RR
Needs More
X
Lean Scum
CoolDog
ScumReads
Kraskaeaque (kraska77 + lycanfire)
Seraphim
SnarkySnowman
Creature
Hard to Place, Would lynch
Cakey
KilltheStory (beeboy and I strongly disagree here, willing to go along with him)
What do you remember about it?In post 1382, Firebringer wrote:vaguelyIn post 1373, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Hatchling, you remember that game don't you?In post 1369, Firebringer wrote:dragons aren't babies.In post 1367, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Baby, do you remember Suikoden?
We are hatchlings.
Get it right Titus.
And then what? We have the same argument about NC tomorrow and there's no conftown but Yume to guide us?In post 1381, farside22 wrote:So let the sir wagon happen then.In post 1380, mastin2 wrote:That moment when you feel like you're surrounded by self-destructive, stubborn morons who all arepartiallyright and yet are overly focused on the parts theyaren'tright on, and you're trying to figure out a way to get them to stop focusing on those parts and focus on the parts they got right.
I'm not joining the NC wagon.
Sorry if that makes me stubborn.
Well, my stance on this is twofold.In post 1146, farside22 wrote:Creature, snarky....who else did I agree with. Seraphim I think was the other one.
I'd say pressure someone that gives the most info.
Mastin: where do you stand on this?
Okay, this post pretty much killed any interest I would have ever had in lynching Seraphim.
I feel comfortable lynching someone I'm scum reading.In post 1385, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:And then what? We have the same argument about NC tomorrow and there's no conftown but Yume to guide us?In post 1381, farside22 wrote:So let the sir wagon happen then.In post 1380, mastin2 wrote:That moment when you feel like you're surrounded by self-destructive, stubborn morons who all arepartiallyright and yet are overly focused on the parts theyaren'tright on, and you're trying to figure out a way to get them to stop focusing on those parts and focus on the parts they got right.
I'm not joining the NC wagon.
Sorry if that makes me stubborn.
Not crazy, just scum.In post 1225, Firebringer wrote:Not Chara, you need a break from this game like 10 pages ago.
Step back, you sound crazy.
Asleep for half the day, drawing for other parts of it, doing basics like eating for yet more. But here, and still backing you up on your Not Chara push. It is scum. Your reasons are right.In post 1240, grapes wrote:Where's mastin?
So this was a fuckup within a fuckup, nice.In post 1057, Not Chara wrote: you already had Creature is nulltown in your last readslist. i think he was talking about when you said, in response to Creature votes, that Creature is "perfect null".
I will give you this first part, I haven't been putting any real effort in so far and it's obviously causing me to be read incorrectly. So I'm going to work harder on putting in real content.In post 1072, grapes wrote: Nothing he's said has felt genuine and a lot of his thoughts are surface level.
Even very early game I thought his tone felt off and his stances are hard to follow. Like his menno read is for fishing and he's stayed far too sticky and confident there considering mcmenno has done some town things.
Obi-wan vote was pretty bad. It's either scum fanning the flames of a tvt or cakes sawing for chara.
(thanks for this Creature)In post 1122, Creature wrote:Seriously, look at her scumreads:Not Chara is new.In post 1104, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:ScumReads
Not Chara
Kraskaeaque (kraska77 + lycanfire)
Seraphim
SnarkySnowman
Creature
Kraskaesque are a hydra of newer players.
Seraphim and SnarkySnowman are know as lynchbaits.
grapes sees me as extremely lynchable.
Really hate this vote from Snarky, again. He never responded to my request to explain his farside scumread and he jumped back here anyway, despite the fact he's been fairly active for what he usually is.
I saw later on this page that you changed your read on me to scum after some review.In post 1161, farside22 wrote: The bottom part that snarky never responded to.
Now, this feels like a catch 22. I would logically re-evaluate my reads if I was wrong, like anyone else. My Cakey read is partially derived from NC being scum (note I have said the rule of three). This naturally creates the concern that I wouldn't lynch Cakey if wrong. If I said I wouldn't re-evaluate my reads, you discredit me on the basis of being a tunneller.In post 1388, farside22 wrote:I feel comfortable lynching someone I'm scum reading.In post 1385, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:And then what? We have the same argument about NC tomorrow and there's no conftown but Yume to guide us?In post 1381, farside22 wrote:So let the sir wagon happen then.In post 1380, mastin2 wrote:That moment when you feel like you're surrounded by self-destructive, stubborn morons who all arepartiallyright and yet are overly focused on the parts theyaren'tright on, and you're trying to figure out a way to get them to stop focusing on those parts and focus on the parts they got right.
I'm not joining the NC wagon.
Sorry if that makes me stubborn.
What happens if your wrong about nc.
Does that mean you don't want to lynch sir cakez then?
Gee, I wonder why?In post 1265, Firebringer wrote:I am so legit confused on all RRs reads.
Could you explain this?In post 1178, grapes wrote:Not Chara is obvscum.
This post was definitely bad. Outing grapes's role like that is terrible and pointless and I feel like the vote is more because she's trying to push off someone pushing her then because of the role.In post 1188, Not Chara wrote:to anyone thinking of allying with grapes: you will not receive any bonuses you would normally get from allying with a player. and no, no need to bother checking. grapes never said this in the thread. or anywhere. i was told by Varsoon when our alliance was created. grapes' name was not specifically mentioned, but i have a hard time believing the cause was anything other than their role.
VOTE: grapes
pedit: ha.
This is a strong post from Sera, like some others noted.In post 1189, Seraphim wrote:I'm on the fence about a lot of players but here are some thoughts and reads I've had.
farside is town (Even though I will probably get accused of buddying w/e). A high level of engagement with the game and probably the game's strongest scumhunter currently. Which is why Snarky is really hard to read. On the one hand, the push is bullshit. On the other hand, they are putting themselves out there very strongly with their bullshit read/case thing. I'm uncertain as of this moment if that's because Snarky is scum caught with their pants down and now forced to push the read until they can weasel their way out of it OR they are town who genuinely believe what is actually not a fantastic scumread at all. So I'm sitting on that one.
SirCakez and McMenno are two other scumreads I have. If a wagon emerged on either on them, I would definitely join in. grapes has largely outlined a fairly excellent case on Cakez, but there is a strong tendency of surface level play, a going through the motions of engagement. McMenno has been lurking in the wings and also rolefishing super hard. I think every player here wants more answers in terms of role shit but McMenno's questioning of Mastin seemed like scum using the pretense of that lack of information to try and secure a lynch.
I wanted to pressure TWIE almost more than I scumread them. If that makes sense. See if I could beetlejuice them into the thread.
Same thing with Xkfyu. The big difference here being that they showed up and made some other awful posts.
I am really not sure what people are seeing in Not Chara as scum.
I really hate wagon resistance arguments. They are almost never accurate, you'll see town wagons get resistance just as often as scum wagons. It's not a viable way to read a wagon target unless it's very close to the end of the day and the player count is low enough that scum wouldn't be bussing.In post 1194, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote: You mean four players, all universally regarded as town, and the wagon doesn't take?
Almost50, myself, Yume, and mastina are all on the NC wagon. The NC wagon is facing major resistance.
Why wouldn't scum be hopping on here if the wagon was wrong as a method of discrediting those on the wagon if it was wrong?
This reminds me very much of the wagon on LQ in Sudoken Mafia.
This is the kind of explanation I was needing re; chara, thanks.In post 1233, grapes wrote:This is a terrible fucking post.In post 1177, Not Chara wrote:i could be convinced onto a Snarky wagon depending on how he answers, but i don't think i will be happy about it.
i could wagon grapes. will join the Rational wagon in good cheer if i don't see anything else i like/no one will follow me on OWK. though i've already given up there for today, so.
grapes: are you still townreading Snarky?
It's literally talking out of all three sides of its mouth here.
I'd wagon snarky, could wagon grapes, but also don't mind that wagon grapes is pushing the loudest, oh hey grapes what's your read on snarky?
Like this kinda post just doesn't come from town I'm fucking sorry.
Reactionary pushes are on me + obi. Like reread them more in depth without your "newbs can't be scum for some reason" filter.
I'm not sure why you're asking this, considering your huge scumread on me?
I know you and grapes are having a bit of a fight right now, but this seems like a pretty crappy thing to do. Also, it might just be thatIn post 1188, Not Chara wrote:to anyone thinking of allying with grapes: you will not receive any bonuses you would normally get from allying with a player. and no, no need to bother checking. grapes never said this in the thread. or anywhere. i was told by Varsoon when our alliance was created. grapes' name was not specifically mentioned, but i have a hard time believing the cause was anything other than their role.
VOTE: grapes
pedit: ha.
When the game is over.In post 1296, Firebringer wrote:Do I have to come in here to tell people to walk away from the thread so we can actually get productive?
Cause I am kind of done with Titus tunneling at this point.
Nope.In post 1392, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Now, this feels like a catch 22. I would logically re-evaluate my reads if I was wrong, like anyone else. My Cakey read is partially derived from NC being scum (note I have said the rule of three). This naturally creates the concern that I wouldn't lynch Cakey if wrong. If I said I wouldn't re-evaluate my reads, you discredit me on the basis of being a tunneller.In post 1388, farside22 wrote:I feel comfortable lynching someone I'm scum reading.In post 1385, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:And then what? We have the same argument about NC tomorrow and there's no conftown but Yume to guide us?In post 1381, farside22 wrote:So let the sir wagon happen then.In post 1380, mastin2 wrote:That moment when you feel like you're surrounded by self-destructive, stubborn morons who all arepartiallyright and yet are overly focused on the parts theyaren'tright on, and you're trying to figure out a way to get them to stop focusing on those parts and focus on the parts they got right.
I'm not joining the NC wagon.
Sorry if that makes me stubborn.
What happens if your wrong about nc.
Does that mean you don't want to lynch sir cakez then?
The truth is, you're trying a logistical argument to try and get me to lynch Cakey today despite loading out a bunch of compromises that logically fail.
Even if you're right, Cakey bussing NC is not a problem. It's a good thing because NC is scum. RR and I have been discussing their reads and how they vote in the hood. They didn't want to be on it for fear it would turn people AWAY from the wagon, which is exactly the argument you are making now.In post 1397, farside22 wrote:Nope.In post 1392, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Now, this feels like a catch 22. I would logically re-evaluate my reads if I was wrong, like anyone else. My Cakey read is partially derived from NC being scum (note I have said the rule of three). This naturally creates the concern that I wouldn't lynch Cakey if wrong. If I said I wouldn't re-evaluate my reads, you discredit me on the basis of being a tunneller.In post 1388, farside22 wrote:I feel comfortable lynching someone I'm scum reading.In post 1385, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:And then what? We have the same argument about NC tomorrow and there's no conftown but Yume to guide us?In post 1381, farside22 wrote:So let the sir wagon happen then.In post 1380, mastin2 wrote:That moment when you feel like you're surrounded by self-destructive, stubborn morons who all arepartiallyright and yet are overly focused on the parts theyaren'tright on, and you're trying to figure out a way to get them to stop focusing on those parts and focus on the parts they got right.
I'm not joining the NC wagon.
Sorry if that makes me stubborn.
What happens if your wrong about nc.
Does that mean you don't want to lynch sir cakez then?
The truth is, you're trying a logistical argument to try and get me to lynch Cakey today despite loading out a bunch of compromises that logically fail.
I'm making a point about why I won't follow you and times it by 10.
I don't see why NC and sir cakes need to be attached together.
Sir cakes just does his catch up and from what I read will most likely vote nc.
Rr is under that same umbrella.
So what then.
You stick with your push on nc even though both clearly are just following you.
I can't believe you just ignore that and keep pushing.
If this is how your going to me the entire length of the game don't expect me to call yo7 nothing but a tunneler.