Mini Normal 1829 - Game Over

[Elyse]

As town I think she's pretty dumb.

I was right - they weren't masons

[I Am Innocent]

I was all over flubber D1, post 470 even mention how he dropped a few earl game scum tells lol. I forget how right these usually are

Vote élysé peeps.

I'll drop some stuff after Kranska getsback/stops lurking.

What do you think about Shadow?

Just looked at his ISO and I felt zero emotion there. Really bad :-/

[Nero Cain]

quick Elyse ATE it up so IAI votes kraska!

[MariaR]

I forget but ik I had a good reason I'll tell you when I remember

[Transcend]

Yeah fuck off. My intentions were not scum motivated. They were, in fact, to get you guys to get the fuck off my hard town read since she was hard town telling and you guys were being stubborn as fuck. So i decided to step in. You know, so that you guys would actually have a chance at lynching mafia.

[I Am Innocent]

or you know, kraska could just be scum that knows all the players are town.

And gives herself no easy targets to mislynch?

PS - the transcend confession does change things...I still think Elyse or Maria today, and preferably want Elyse. Like I said earlier, I'm a sucker for ATE...

You act like saying someone isn't scummy on page 4 means you can never scumread them again

No but explanations would be needed. Most scum don't like the extra work...

[I Am Innocent]

quick Elyse ATE it up so IAI votes kraska!

[Elyse]

I've looked at Kraska, and must admit there is some merit in that wagon. Kraska, could you explain where your initial townread on Maria came from? It went against the feeling of all other players at the time, so what did you see that they didn't?

Thor, what makes you say that Elyse's vote was the most opportunistic on the wagon? If I had to point out an opportunistic vote, I would look at Karnos. The reason he gave for joining the wagon was Maria's refusal to explain. I have a hard time thinking of a reason why scum would be more likely to refuse to explain then town, which makes me feel he might just have been looking for an excuse to join the wagon. Elyse's "I don't think Maria would get that flustered as town" seems far more natural to me.

Gerry, what did you accomplish with that gambit?

Note to all EM players: gambiting is a terrible idea on a site that focusses on finding scum through dayplay. If you want to be able to find the lying scum through day discussion, you have to be able to rely on what your fellow town players are saying. Lying as town makes all reads unreliable, while giving scum the perfect cover to hide behind. That's why Lynch All Lyars is a thing here. Benefit of lying for town is non-existent, benefit for scum is far too great to allow liars to live.

Vote: Transcend

Town Transcend willing to lie for unknown maria seems far less likely then scum Transcend willing to lie to solidify her townread of him.

and just like that Michel moves to the town pile

[I Am Innocent]

Transcend 604 need more caps me thinks

[Elyse]

Now that you know the mason claim is fake why are people not voting me nothing has seemingly changed so I want to know what happened?

You act as though faking a mason claim means nothing changed

[Nero Cain]

u know, so that you guys would actually have a chance at lynching mafia.

says that player bot voting scum.

[Nero Cain]

NOT

[I Am Innocent]

Really 569 felt like one of my scum posts where I just ask a bunch of questions and make a few points to look like I'm trying to scum hunt.

[Elyse]

quick Elyse ATE it up so IAI votes kraska!

Lol

I actually AtE far more often as scum

[Transcend]

You're right iai is towny so I'll remove my vote for now.

Back on to this piece of shit who is deliberately bullshitting reads left & right.

VOTE: MichelSableheart

[I Am Innocent]

u know, so that you guys would actually have a chance at lynching mafia.

says that player bot voting scum.

I <3 my mason buddy. Glad we never needed to CC lol

[I Am Innocent]

quick Elyse ATE it up so IAI votes kraska!

Lol

I actually AtE far more often as scum

I'm a sucker for lady tears...

[Transcend]

And yes Elyse knowing my claim was bs is nai. It was a deliberate fake fake claim in a half assed attempt to get you guys off of MariaR.

[Nero Cain]

Why is IAI towny?

[I Am Innocent]

My wife just came in the bedroom and asked why I'm smiling at my phone. I had to admit that me and Nero are having a little too much fun lol

[Transcend]

Because he is.

I'm on lunch and I'm not gonna be assed to explain myself.

[I Am Innocent]

Why is IAI towny?

Cause of my role pm?

[Nero Cain]

My wife just came in the bedroom and asked why I'm smiling at my phone. I had to admit that me and Nero are having a little too much fun lol

OH NOES THE AFFAIR IS OUT!

[Elyse]

VOTE: Transcend

@Maria
Do you think it's possible that Transcend is taking advantage of your experience with him and fakeclaiming masons to get you on his side? I've seen him say that you're obvtown (lol) but aside from the fake mason claim, you haven't explained why you're townreading him. And if the mason claim is the only reason, you need to take a step back and see the scum motivation in doing what he did. Read the game that I linked.

I don't think Maria/Transcend are both town and think it's far more likely Transcend is scum. Fakeclaiming mason to save a townread that wasn't even the definitive lynch of the day does not seem like a townie thing to do. Makes much more sense for scumTranscend to see an opening to get a pocket townread from Maria. And if he knows she is town, he probably expected her to flip first of the two. And even when she didn't flip mason, he would look good because she was still town. He might get called stupid and antitown for fakeclaiming, but not necessarily scummy. I literally did the same exact thing for the same exact reasons and sailed through the rest of the game.

[Transcend]

Idiots.