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[Nero Cain]

As town I think she's pretty dumb.

[Nero Cain]

I mean I can understand the "Elyse could be bandwagoning!" but her vote wasn't even the worst. That belongs to Karnos or are we all just writing him off b/c he's new?

[Blitzkrieg]

You know im town idiot

I think u'r scum w/ either kraska or Elyse (probably elyse since she seemed pretty sure the mason claim was false) and saw ur plan backfire and now ur purposefully moving the wagon back to maria.

This seems really overly complicated.

[Transcend]

He's just paranoid town

[MariaR]

She isn't close to dumb.

[Blitzkrieg]

Seriously Transcend, If you're lying about the mason thing, ur gonna get blacklisted by everyone in this game.

Nah, he isn't going to get blacklisted by me. By his response, I know he's fake.

[Blitzkrieg]

Why do you think kraska is town?

I'll second this - I would rather lynch Elyse, but the Kraska push feels valid to me.

Do you think they are on the same team? Both are voting each other. While Elyse threw the L-1 vote at Maria, Kraska came crashing down on Elyse by attacking/voting her. I don't see the two aligned, and Elyse's play has been far scummier in my opinion.

PS - Someone attacked Kraska for having too many town reads/not being aggressive Day 1. I think having too many town reads is not how scum like to play, they like to keep their options open and allow for easy flip flopping later, so I respectfully disagree with that point.

Your tunnel on me sucks.

p-edit

no one's going to support a lynch on a mason d1

Agreed. No one is voting a mason as there are not masons to vote.

[Blitzkrieg]

I mean I can understand the "Elyse could be bandwagoning!" but her vote wasn't even the worst. That belongs to Karnos or are we all just writing him off b/c he's new?

I'm not writing off anyone yet for the most part. Maria is scum but Transcend had to be all dumb and fake claim masons as scum, so today is just going to be twiddling our asses.

[Blitzkrieg]

*fakeclaim masons with scum. (Meaning Maria scum Transcend town).

[Nero Cain]

She isn't close to dumb.

Map wagon disagrees with you

[Nero Cain]

He's just paranoid town

I'm not really getting paranoid from his Maria vote.

[Nero Cain]

I mean I can understand the "Elyse could be bandwagoning!" but her vote wasn't even the worst. That belongs to Karnos or are we all just writing him off b/c he's new?

I'm not writing off anyone yet for the most part. Maria is scum but Transcend had to be all dumb and fake claim masons as scum, so today is just going to be twiddling our asses.

If we are going down this rabbit hole I think its much more likely that Trancend is scum over Maria.

[MariaR]

I just have bliz as dumb not dumb town or scum just dumb

[Transcend]

Funny how both of us can be town and

none

of you are willing to consider that scenario...

[MariaR]

Funny how both of us can be town and

none

of you are willing to consider that scenario...

Na we can't both be town! I mean it's way to complicated for us to both be town

[Nero Cain]

I am hence why I'm not voting either of you but but I kinda want to vote both of you so I don't have to readf anymore posts.

[Transcend]

So that constitutes as a grudge lynch which is playing to get one of us lynched and not playing to your wincon.

[Nero Cain]

how exactly do you know that I'm town?

[Transcend]

i don't but i think you are.

anyways, work. bye.

[MichelSableheart]

I've looked at Kraska, and must admit there is some merit in that wagon. Kraska, could you explain where your initial townread on Maria came from? It went against the feeling of all other players at the time, so what did you see that they didn't?

Thor, what makes you say that Elyse's vote was the most opportunistic on the wagon? If I had to point out an opportunistic vote, I would look at Karnos. The reason he gave for joining the wagon was Maria's refusal to explain. I have a hard time thinking of a reason why scum would be more likely to refuse to explain then town, which makes me feel he might just have been looking for an excuse to join the wagon. Elyse's "I don't think Maria would get that flustered as town" seems far more natural to me.

Gerry, what did you accomplish with that gambit?

Note to all EM players: gambiting is a terrible idea on a site that focusses on finding scum through dayplay. If you want to be able to find the lying scum through day discussion, you have to be able to rely on what your fellow town players are saying. Lying as town makes all reads unreliable, while giving scum the perfect cover to hide behind. That's why Lynch All Lyars is a thing here. Benefit of lying for town is non-existent, benefit for scum is far too great to allow liars to live.

Vote: Transcend

Town Transcend willing to lie for unknown maria seems far less likely then scum Transcend willing to lie to solidify her townread of him.

[JarJarDrinks]

Great post

[MariaR]

Me and Transcend acted like this in our first game on the site together before you make claims like that please take a look at it and see if you think there's a dif or it's the same.

[MariaR]

Now that you know the mason claim is fake why are people not voting me nothing has seemingly changed so I want to know what happened?

[MariaR]

I also tr the mason play from him because it just seems something that Transcend would do for instance if someone like Gerry did that I'd be semi fishy with it with Transcend I wasn't at all fishy with it

[I Am Innocent]

Great post

Did you feel the passion in those questions too?