Mini Normal 1829 - Game Over

[Thor665]

im mostly talking about her unprovoked early claim

I think Elyse was the only one who called that out as an issue, am I recalling that wrong?
Or is "Elyse" the sum total answer for how the AtE is backfiring on Maria?

[MariaR]

I'll explain the parts that I can he gets upset quite easy as town and does a lot of suboptimal stuff doing stuff that only transcend wants he's more likely to appeal to the town's needs as mafia I also think a big part of it is his non caring tone

How has he particularly done any of this so far this game?

He hasn't made any suboptimal plays moreso than half the rest of the game.
He hasn't got upset beyond *maybe* the push on you as a scumread, and that came after your meta read of him.
I haven't particularly got a "don't care" vibe from him, and even if I squinted and decided it was there it appears to come after your read on him.

Am I just totally blowing this?

His sub optimal idc was going after the bliz wagon and the mini caps rage is what I noted

What shocks me is you don't get the "I don't care vibe" I think that's the most clear out of them all the other 2 I can understand if you don't get but the 3rd rly?

[MariaR]

I suppose you're right I'd rather lose and be proud of the game I played then feel bad and win

I wouldn't feel proud playing beneath my skill level - but whatever floats your boat I suppose.

You'd do anything you could do to win even if it could make the game unenjoyable for the people you're playing with? I won't judge but you do you

Huh? Aren't you telling us that this is EXACTLY HOW YOU PLAY AS SCUM?

Sometimes depends on my mood. I try not to though.

[JarJarDrinks]

I pride myself in my scum game on this site

if I was scum I would be capslock raging and self voting saying lynch me atm

You'd do anything you could do to win even if it could make the game unenjoyable for the people you're playing with?

I'd rather lose and be proud of the game I played then feel bad and win

[JarJarDrinks]

That's some serious contradiction there.

[Nero Cain]

So you're just voting me because my play is bad to you and nothing else you don't even sr me dear god Nero I thought you were better then this

I'm not even voting you you silly Epic Mafia goon.

[Nero Cain]

A wise man once told me that are weak enough that they can pull the same shit regardless of alignment.

[Thor665]

I suppose you're right I'd rather lose and be proud of the game I played then feel bad and win

I wouldn't feel proud playing beneath my skill level - but whatever floats your boat I suppose.

You'd do anything you could do to win even if it could make the game unenjoyable for the people you're playing with? I won't judge but you do you

Huh? Aren't you telling us that this is EXACTLY HOW YOU PLAY AS SCUM?

She is, it's all bull-hooey as an answer.
The only question is if you think she honestly believes that dreck or not.

His sub optimal idc was going after the bliz wagon and the mini caps rage is what I noted

The mini caps rage would be an utter lark to fake - are you saying he doesn't fake it at all as scum?

Would you describe Kraskos as unoptimally playing the game? Because he's doubled down and gone *way* further than Transcend on that value call if that's how you take it, and if it's a town read from Transcend for playing badly, why aren't you dinging or discussing anything with the guy doing it much worse to defend you?

What shocks me is you don't get the "I don't care vibe" I think that's the most clear out of them all the other 2 I can understand if you don't get but the 3rd rly?

He is posting constantly in the game thread.
If he "doesn't care" then he has a strange way of showing it.
How are you getting a "don't care" vibe out of a guy who has posted over 25 times in the past four hours?

[MariaR]

That's some serious contradiction there.

Not at all?

[Thor665]

No, it is.

[JarJarDrinks]

need VC but consider my vote back on maria.

[MariaR]

As town I could caps lock rage and say unvote me aswell but that's not fun for anyone I do it as scum to get votes off me and then stop I dislike doing it and only do it sometimes

[kraska77]

im mostly talking about her unprovoked early claim

I think Elyse was the only one who called that out as an issue, am I recalling that wrong?
Or is "Elyse" the sum total answer for how the AtE is backfiring on Maria?

elyse called it out
but i also thought it was really bad and almost reconsidered my read on her. just bc noone else came and said stuff doesnt mean i cant think her ate here wasnt helping her acquit herself

[MariaR]

It's not even close to a contradiction but feel free to make more things up

[Thor665]

I mean, you say playing to win as town would be CHEAP and make people feel bad.
But you're totally okay doing it as scum, except you try really hard not to - but we should see that you're not scum because you aren't doing the things you try hard not to do as scum, that would be easy to shake this wagon off of you with.

You either do the things or you don't - if you don't do them because you think they would make people have bad feels - that shouldn't change with alignment.
It's very contradictory as a stance.

I, personally, think you're blowing hot air, but even if you're telling the truth your stance makes no internal sense.

[MariaR]

Anything I say you think is scummy why am I even trying I've given fact after fact and my clear logic on why I'm town you're just ego tunneling at this point.

[Thor665]

im mostly talking about her unprovoked early claim

I think Elyse was the only one who called that out as an issue, am I recalling that wrong?
Or is "Elyse" the sum total answer for how the AtE is backfiring on Maria?

elyse called it out
but i also thought it was really bad and almost reconsidered my read on her. just bc noone else came and said stuff doesnt mean i cant think her ate here wasnt helping her acquit herself

So you agree with me that her AtE actions look bad, even though you think the wagon is terrible?
If you think the wagon is terrible, but you kinda buy into the wagon...how does that work?

[JarJarDrinks]

I'll play along

Huh? Aren't you telling us that this is EXACTLY HOW YOU PLAY AS SCUM?

Sometimes depends on my mood. I try not to though.

So it's entirely possible that you could be getting lynched as scum day 1 right?

Cause depending on your mood you might not "pull out all the stops" correct?

[MariaR]

I pride myself in my scum game because I think I play a over good scum game and I'd do basically anything to win even if it's caps lock rage to some points and self voting but I don't want to do that so I'm trying to stop I know what it takes for people to tr me and I'd be doing that right now if I was scum but I'm not the fact you still think I'm scum makes me think you're just bad at reading the game and you're ego tunneling but carry on

[Transcend]

nero cain you play EM?

[kraska77]

im mostly talking about her unprovoked early claim

I think Elyse was the only one who called that out as an issue, am I recalling that wrong?
Or is "Elyse" the sum total answer for how the AtE is backfiring on Maria?

elyse called it out
but i also thought it was really bad and almost reconsidered my read on her. just bc noone else came and said stuff doesnt mean i cant think her ate here wasnt helping her acquit herself

So you agree with me that her AtE actions look bad, even though you think the wagon is terrible?
If you think the wagon is terrible, but you kinda buy into the wagon...how does that work?

i already explained this before...we're just going around in circles at this point
the unprovoked nature of her claim and the way some of her reactions were kinda ott when the situation didnt warrant that makes me think this isnt scum

[MariaR]

I'll play along

Huh? Aren't you telling us that this is EXACTLY HOW YOU PLAY AS SCUM?

Sometimes depends on my mood. I try not to though.

So it's entirely possible that you could be getting lynched as scum day 1 right?

Cause depending on your mood you might not "pull out all the stops" correct?

hmmmm hard question to answer because I've never been tested IE: I've never been close to being lynched as scum on day 1 so yeah maybe I think I may try a bit of "I give up w/e it's gg" but not the ate rage unless I was in a pissy mood but then again I've never been close to being lynched as scum before on d1

[JarJarDrinks]

You're talking out of 1 side of ur mouth saying "I try not to play that way cause it's unenjoyable for people"

And the other side says "Of course I'm not scum. If I was scum I'd totally play that way.

How can u pretend that's not a contradiction?

[Nero Cain]

[quote="In post 319, Transcend"][/quote]
no

[Transcend]

how did you know mariar was from EM then