STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Skybird]

So who would like to ally with me?

I would be okay with that engagement

I'm up for this if you are still willing.

[Firebringer]

Mastin is probably town, but I still have her in my lynch pool

[Yume]

So who would like to ally with me?

I would be okay with that engagement

I'm up for this if you are still willing.

Too late, farside and I are allied and next day I am planning alliance with RR.

[Firebringer]

Yume do you lurk the thread till something directly involving you happens?

[Reasonably Rational]

Note to self: Mastin can't read players.

Mastin has a proven record of being way above average at reading people. Sorry that she pegged you as scum, but so far you kind of look like scum trying to get town read. If you're not, maybe that should tell you something and you should adjust.

I don't see anyone fishing.

Probably because of where you're currently keeping your head?

Seriously ... take your head out of the dark smelly place you currently have it lodged.

lol where is my head lodged?
This is too funny.

Your lower colon (a.k.a. rectum). Take it out and you'll see clearly

there is... a lot of anger in Drixx.

what you've said about Firebringer indicates scum, but you're still talking directly to them. is Firebringer scum or misguided town, which is it?

Oh no. I'm not in the least bit angry. I'm just being snarky. If I should happen to get angry, it would be really unpleasant. That's not likely to happen this game though, as I'm not on steroids and it takes a pretty

considerable

amount of provocation to make me actually angry. I'm being very snarky with Firebringer because I've grown tired of his schtick. He trolls a lot and frequently contributes little to nothing to games. I'm hoping my approach will encourage him to do something useful.

The posts are coming faster than I can keep up with at the moment, but I've got conflicting reads on FB as of right now. It's irrational to pretend to know someone's motives and so when I evaluate his "reasons" for throwing a scum read on us, and then his post where he made a big show about how he wasn't going to form reads in the pre-game but he has multiple scum reads ... it looks like an intentional performance to me. But it's also

really

clumsy, so it's either really bad scum play or he's trolling again. It's a big game and it will sort itself out.

Firebringer, as town, is basically always misguided. At this point, I've concluded that it's an intentional play style choice on his part. He trolls and contributes little to nothing and ends up in the end game unless he gets lynched because why would scum kill a townie behaving that way?

~D

[mastin2]

Oh. Wait. I just got it. Understood.
-Cerb

If I did, then I don't think it's a good idea.

McMenno

may

be town, but I'm having difficulty pinning him down.

[Yume]

Yume do you lurk the thread till something directly involving you happens?

It's called "giving people room to converse". You should try it sometime.

[Firebringer]

Firebringer, as town, is basically always misguided. At this point, I've concluded that it's an intentional play style choice on his part. He trolls and contributes little to nothing and ends up in the end game unless he gets lynched because why would scum kill a townie behaving that way?

This going to be how you treat me all game?

[Firebringer]

Mastin has a proven record of being way above average at reading people. Sorry that she pegged you as scum, but so far you kind of look like scum trying to get town read. If you're not, maybe that should tell you something and you should adjust.

Ummm she read beginning first page little comments that mean nothing as alignment indicative, you serious?

[mastin2]

Go to sleep, thread is closed. Wake up, 7 pages. Good thing I have time to do this now.

Scum?

I will ally with mastin2, Firebringer, Yume, TWIE or randomidget if they promise to actively participate in our alliance and TALK WITH ME about the game

Lolno

Town.

[mastin2]

I almost feel like photographing my SU merchandise collection. Everyone should watch the show, it's the

best

.
Also, I still need an ally! I promise I don't bite.

Town?

hey mastina do you want to ally with me?

I'm hesitant.

My ally power is not something I intend to ever need, but it's also something I never intend scum to have.

I might be willing to risk it if I don't come up with any better ideas, and definitely would if my read on you becomes stronger. I'll let you know.

[McMenno]

okay thanks

well it's sleepy sleepy time for me now

[Reasonably Rational]

mastin: if you're a miller, you should at least claim that.

i'm against flavour claims and ability claims, but any negative-utilities should be on the table in plain terms, without hinting at one's flavour role.

Drixx, this was the post. i'm not sure how you misinterpreted my intent from this. i couldn't have been more clear.

Thank you for going way out of your way to make it really clear you weren't asking Mastin to claim more ... by quoting yourself telling mastin specifically to claim whether miller or not and also telling mastin to claim neg utility in plain terms.

The question is should I give you the benefit of the doubt or not?

You see: Steven Universe and Steven Universe Prequel and pretty much all of the Varsoon games based upon actual shows/games have strong flavor reasons for the abilities and roles people are assigned. So asking Mastin to explain her negative role utility "in plain terms" actually

IS

fishing for flavor in a Varsoon game. It's really enough that she told us there's neg utility with her role and it's probably too much that she made such a big deal about wanting to say more.

there is... a lot of anger in Drixx.

what you've said about Firebringer indicates scum, but you're still talking directly to them. is Firebringer scum or misguided town, which is it?

This is my confusion too, he says I am making it up and trying to look town but then suggests that I am town? Very confused.

I always account for the possibility that my scum reads are wrong; the very best scum hunters on site are barely better than random chance, and I'm not among the very best scum hunters on site. Until I'm

sure

that someone is scum, they get treated like they might be town. This is super easily confirmable by checking my meta. One

really good

example is my interaction with Titus in Space Dandy 2. I was giving her benefit of the doubt comments even when mod clarification made it look like she was caught and mod confirmed as lying.

Firebringer, as town, is basically always misguided. At this point, I've concluded that it's an intentional play style choice on his part. He trolls and contributes little to nothing and ends up in the end game unless he gets lynched because why would scum kill a townie behaving that way?

This going to be how you treat me all game?

I hope not. I'm trying to knock you out of your comfort rut and see how you do if you aren't left to troll and lurk.

Mastin has a proven record of being way above average at reading people. Sorry that she pegged you as scum, but so far you kind of look like scum trying to get town read. If you're not, maybe that should tell you something and you should adjust.

Ummm she read beginning first page little comments that mean nothing as alignment indicative, you serious?

Early game stuff, even from the first page, solves games all the time. I'm serious and Mastin is serious. I've lost count of the times I'm in the dead thread watching as a town squanders a win because none of the living town go check the early stuff and look at it through the lense of accumulated knowledge.


~D

[Skybird]

So who would like to ally with me?

I would be okay with that engagement

I'm up for this if you are still willing.

Too late, farside and I are allied and next day I am planning alliance with RR.

yeah, I saw that as I caught up. maybe day three then?

[mastin2]

I can also confirmed myself as town but I need players to target me tonight to do so.
Oh on top of that I'm in a

masonry with firebringer

I'm sure doubters with be a plenty.

For the record I'm not Mason with fire. I'm telling the truth about targeting me though.

I am pretty sure we are masons

I would have preferred you keep the lie up.
Ironically, this does make me feel much better about the whole thing, with the way this has come out.
Still, purely from a perspective of scum's actions, I would have preferred them thinking you were masons in spite of me not believing you.

[farside22]

I mean... that'd be rather kinky. This is a show for our innocent youth, after all.

Get your mind out of the gutter, I meant for you to bite people. Like an attack dog. You are a fox after all...

Whoops.
Nah I don't generally bite people. Or peck. I am very harmless.

Farside, do you still wanna ally? <3 I overlooked your post.

If time turns me down, sure.

[farside22]

Time = yume

[mastin2]

I think RR is scum btw.

If it makes you feel better: no longer scumreading you, and farside's one of my strongest townreads now.

[Skybird]

Mastin is probably town, but I still have her in my lynch pool

Why in the world would you have a player you think is probably town in your lynch pool?

Yume do you lurk the thread till something directly involving you happens?

If you have a problem with Yume, how about just ignoring her instead of making all these snide comments?

[Almost50]

Almost I think I have default townread you in every game I played with you, which I think worked out?

Yeah, except the one were we both were scum together and you had to fake it!

I mean, we do get along, so you were my pick for an ally, but I was late and you had a better option.. *Shrug*

[mastin2]

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Town?

mastin, what are you basing your reads on? gut?

No, experience.

[Firebringer]

I think RR is scum btw.

If it makes you feel better: no longer scumreading you, and farside's one of my strongest townreads now.

I don't care about your read on me.

[Almost50]

if you're town, your ally claiming their role/flavour to you can only be helpful, Almost50. mind telling me why you feel so strongly about this?

Because:

1- Scum have been provided with GOOD fake claims already. It's in the rules. I don't want to end up town reading my ally and spelling my guts to them when they're in fact SCUM.

2- They'd expect me to do teh same, which -again- I don't want to do in case I', reading them wrong.

Ask Cerb. He'll tell you what happened in the last VARSOON game we played, where KC totally fooled me, Nahdia fooled both Cerb & ABR, and we ended up massacred by the scum team for having wrong reads and sharing secrets with them.

[Firebringer]

Mastin is probably town, but I still have her in my lynch pool

Why in the world would you have a player you think is probably town in your lynch pool?

Yume do you lurk the thread till something directly involving you happens?

If you have a problem with Yume, how about just ignoring her instead of making all these snide comments?

1] because annoyance
2] no

[farside22]

So who would like to ally with me?

I would be okay with that engagement

I'm up for this if you are still willing.

Too late, farside and I are allied and next day I am planning alliance with RR.

Sweet!

I think RR is scum btw.

If it makes you feel better: no longer scumreading you, and farside's one of my strongest townreads now.

Me too.
Your reads so different then mine are a dead give away.

Sky: ally with foxbird I got a good vibe from her.