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Post Post #2800 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:35 am

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Mechanics Normalizer
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As long as you are alive, any effects that permanently affect the setup as a whole (e.g. changing the way flips are done, day/night cycle, global changes to ton win conditions, etc.) are suppressed.
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Post Post #2801 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:43 am

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Compulsor
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Each night, choose a player. For the rest of the game, starting with the next day phase, all that player's abilities become Compulsive; they will die if they do not use them (unless they are out of shots, not usable that night due to a modifier like Even-Night, or cannot be used at the same time as other abilities that that player has and is using). Note that this includes factional kills (i.e. the Compulsive player will die if they do not use their team's factional kill if it has one). The player will be informed of the new restriction on their role.
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Post Post #2802 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:45 am

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Pregame Messenger
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During confirmations, you may send another player a message via the moderator. The message will not specify who it came from, and will be formatted in a way that makes it clear that it does not necessarily come from the moderator. (For example, it might arrive in a quote box preceded by "You anonymously received the following message:".)
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Post Post #2803 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:08 am

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Mafia Jailkeeper


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Choose a player to target. They will be prevented from taking an action and protected from all night kills.
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Post Post #2804 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:10 am

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Votecount Dodger
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Whenever you reach L-2, the votecounts will be written as though you were dead for the rest of the day (i.e. you won't appear as voting, players voting for you will appear as not voting, and the lynch threshold may appear to have changed). Nothing
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Post Post #2805 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:13 am

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Diminishing Magnetised Multivoter
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You can't voluntarily unvote (although you unvote when the vote count is reset). You have infinitely many votes, but each is only worth 1 divided by (the number of votes you've made since the last votecount reset).

For example, if you vote for player A, you have one vote on player A. If you then vote for player B, you have half a vote on each of players A and B. If you then vote for player A again, you'll have ⅔ of a vote on player A and ⅓ of a vote on player B.
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Post Post #2806 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:14 am

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ModWIFOM Cop
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Each night, choose a player. You'll be told whether or not that player's alignment was chosen by the moderator, rather than being part of the role entry in the thread. (For Grandest Idea and the like, reroll this role.)
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Post Post #2807 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:19 am

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Quad FOSer
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This game will have a Finger of Suspicion count, maintained by the moderator (which doesn't do anything except in the unlikely event that some other role interacts with it, but which will count FoSes accurately). Most players have one FoS, which they can move around via FoSing and unFoSing in the style of voting. You have four.
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Post Post #2808 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:22 am

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Alien Truthifier


As long as you are alive, if the moderator would have to give players any incorrect investigation information (due to millers, tailors, etc.), they will modkill one or more players in order to prevent having to tell a lie. If this can be accomplished via modkilling players other than the investigator, then the mod will sort the problem out like that. However, in many cases the investigator may need to be modkilled in order to avoid giving them an untruthful result, as killing other players wouldn't help.
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Post Post #2809 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:29 am

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Town Informed Faction-specific Cop


Pregame, the moderator will choose an anti-town groupscum (i.e. 2+ members) faction with fewer members than any other groupscum faction. You will be told the name of that faction, and each night, can investigate one player to determine whether or not they belong to that faction.

(Note: The name of this role changes based on the chosen faction, e.g. Town Informed Seer if Werewolves are chosen or Town Informed Conspiracy Theorist if Aliens are chosen.)
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Post Post #2810 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:30 am

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Mafia goon

In post 2801, callforjudgement wrote:
Compulsor
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Each night, choose a player. For the rest of the game, starting with the next day phase, all that player's abilities become Compulsive; they will die if they do not use them (unless they are out of shots, not usable that night due to a modifier like Even-Night, or cannot be used at the same time as other abilities that that player has and is using). Note that this includes factional kills (i.e. the Compulsive player will die if they do not use their team's factional kill if it has one). The player will be informed of the new restriction on their role.
In post 2804, callforjudgement wrote:
Votecount Dodger
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Whenever you reach L-2, the votecounts will be written as though you were dead for the rest of the day (i.e. you won't appear as voting, players voting for you will appear as not voting, and the lynch threshold may appear to have changed). Nothing
actually
changes; the votecounts are just inaccurate.
In post 2805, callforjudgement wrote:
Diminishing Magnetised Multivoter
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You can't voluntarily unvote (although you unvote when the vote count is reset). You have infinitely many votes, but each is only worth 1 divided by (the number of votes you've made since the last votecount reset).

For example, if you vote for player A, you have one vote on player A. If you then vote for player B, you have half a vote on each of players A and B. If you then vote for player A again, you'll have ⅔ of a vote on player A and ⅓ of a vote on player B.
In post 2807, callforjudgement wrote:
Quad FOSer
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This game will have a Finger of Suspicion count, maintained by the moderator (which doesn't do anything except in the unlikely event that some other role interacts with it, but which will count FoSes accurately). Most players have one FoS, which they can move around via FoSing and unFoSing in the style of voting. You have four.
In post 2808, callforjudgement wrote:
Alien Truthifier


As long as you are alive, if the moderator would have to give players any incorrect investigation information (due to millers, tailors, etc.), they will modkill one or more players in order to prevent having to tell a lie. If this can be accomplished via modkilling players other than the investigator, then the mod will sort the problem out like that. However, in many cases the investigator may need to be modkilled in order to avoid giving them an untruthful result, as killing other players wouldn't help.
Seriously cfj?
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Post Post #2811 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:33 am

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Slightly Misinformed Townie


Pregame, the moderator will send you three statements about the setup. Two will be true, and one will be false. (You are aware of this.)


PEDIT: @Infinity, what's the "seriously" about? If you're confused, like half the roles you quoted are based on attempted fakeclaims or theories about roles from Mini 1824, and I don't think any of them are broken (unless I'm missing something).
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Post Post #2812 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:36 am

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Town 2-Shot Town Eliminator


Restrictions:
Twice per game.
Usage:
Choose a player to target. If they are town, you will remove them from the game completely (counting as dead.) They will not flip and cannot be revived.
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The truthful one is not fun to play against as an investigative. Also --> I personally think we ought to start to use the term "committed suicide" instead of "modkill" for stuff like that.
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Post Post #2813 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:40 am

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Town Novice 1-Shot Werewolf Eliminator


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Once per game, not on night 1.
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Choose a player to target. If they are werewolf, you will remove them from the game completely (counting as dead.) They will not flip and cannot be revived.
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Post Post #2814 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:42 am

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Vanilla townie

In post 2811, callforjudgement wrote:PEDIT: @Infinity, what's the "seriously" about? If you're confused, like half the roles you quoted are based on attempted fakeclaims or theories about roles from Mini 1824, and I don't think any of them are broken (unless I'm missing something).
They're just roles that...I wouldn't consider particularly fun to play with. Up to you though.
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Post Post #2815 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:44 am

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Mafia Sane Seer


Usage:
Choose a player to target each night. You will determine whether they are werewolf or not werewolf. You are guaranteed to be sane.
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Post Post #2816 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:50 am

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Mafia Cop

In post 2814, Infinity 324 wrote:They're just roles that...I wouldn't consider particularly fun to play with. Up to you though.
Fair enough. One of the problems with Grand Idea is that it can be fairly hard to craft a good fakeclaim because the role you need simply isn't in the thread (Mafia Cop being a good example of something that a player really wanted to fakeclaim in Mini 1824 but couldn't because it wasn't there). I felt that putting some actual attempted fakeclaims (modified in some cases) into the thread would give players more options in future games.

Or in other words, it's less putting the roles here for the benefit of someone who might roll them, than placing the roles here for the benefit of someone who might want to claim them. (The Truthifier was possibly overkill though, even though a player did fakeclaim someone having it!)

FWIW, Compulsor is not one of those roles. I'd be fairly happy to play it as town, as it doesn't really hurt most townies, but does rather hurt scum if you hit them with it; and using it as scum, it's clearly helpful, if only marginally so.
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Post Post #2817 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:53 am

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Jester Supersaint
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Post Post #2818 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:02 pm

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Town 2-Shot Global Alarmist


Twice in the game at night, you can use your Alarmist action to prevent any alignment changes during that night and the following day. (Any role or effect that would try to change someone's alignment is roleblocked completely, even if it would also have other effects such as vanillaisation that aren't directly linked to the alignment change.)
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Post Post #2819 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:05 pm

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Town Ambiguous Tracker


Each night, you may investigate a player to learn who they targeted. If they targeted nobody, then you will get "your action failed", the same result as if you were roleblocked.
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Post Post #2820 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:20 pm

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Cult Leader Alarmist


Usage:
Each night, you may choose to either recruit a player adding them to your cult and changing their win condition or alarm a player preventing their alignment from being changed that night.
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Post Post #2821 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:23 pm

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Odd-Night Cult Recruiter


If the Recruiter dies, the rest of the cult can try to win through lynching (it has no nightkill, and no factional recruit). You can only recruit on odd nights.
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Post Post #2822 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:24 pm

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Werewolf Rolestopper

In post 2820, Ircher wrote:
Cult Alarmist Leader


Usage:
Each night, you may choose to either recruit a player adding them to your cult and changing their win condition or alarm a player preventing their alignment from being changed that night.
I might be missing something, but why would a cult ever want to alarm someone?
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Post Post #2823 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:26 pm

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Town 1-Shot Vote Amplifier Triplet Voter


Restrictions:
Vote Amplifier: Once per game.
Usage:
Triplet Voter: You possess 3 votes, each worth 1/3 a vote each. It may be possible to hammer multiple wagons with this ability.
Usage:
Vote Amplifier: While active, all voters who possess multiple votes worth less than 1 vote each have their votes become full votes. Ex: You become a triplevoter!

Moderator Notes:
Usage:
Triplet Voter: Do not round lynching thresholds; the player counts as possessing a single vote for threshold purposes.
Usage:
Vote Amplifier: When this ability is active, all fractional voters count as having a vote weight of 1. The voting threshold should not otherwise be modified. Callforjudgement's "Fractional Voter" role cannot be used to hammer a player unless the player has zero votes on that player beforehand albeit each vote is counted as a full vote and can put a player at L-1. No role may single-handedly hammer a player; the lynch threshold for that player will temporary change in that case.

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Pedit: Possibly for fakeclaiming reasons. Also if someone like a deprogrammer exists who restore a player's original win condition.
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Post Post #2824 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:37 pm

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2-shot Remotivator
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On two nights of the game, you can choose a player. They will regain all shots of any limited-shot abilities they might have. You can target yourself, allowing yourself to use this ability additional times (although obviously not once you're out of shots; you'll have to spend the last shot on recharging yourself, if you want to do that).
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