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Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:44 am

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Vote: Bookitty
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Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:03 am

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Just for once, I think I actually know why you did that.

I'm probably wrong, though.
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Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:08 am

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Waste words on the subject...
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Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:07 am

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pretty sure flare is an alt of IH.

Semi-limited access until friday. I'll land a vote then.
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Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:51 am

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Bah, go town.
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Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:08 am

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Mmmm... vanilla ice cream. Go town!
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Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:13 am

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Post 1373, Patrick wrote:Due to threats on my life if I don't comply, I'm changing Toaster Strudel's role name to "Mafia Godmother" for political correctness.
*notthreatening*

Not thrilled with Flare or Scøpe, but let's go with a
vote: Sir Tornado
for his 1206.

I forgot to ask this yesterday: was I missing something between JDodge and White?

I'm on limited access as well--until Sunday.
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Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:19 am

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I believe I was roleblocked. My flavor was basically "investigation failed" and no other flavor.
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Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:56 am

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Ether wrote:
Post 1373, Patrick wrote:Due to threats on my life if I don't comply, I'm changing Toaster Strudel's role name to "Mafia Godmother" for political correctness.
*notthreatening*

Not thrilled with Flare or Scøpe, but let's go with a
vote: Sir Tornado
for his 1206.

I forgot to ask this yesterday: was I missing something between JDodge and White?

I'm on limited access as well--until Sunday.
That's pretty scummy, but what happened to being suspicious of Zorg/BM? I'm pretty sure there is a much better case for them to be scum atm.

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Lemming1607 wrote:I believe I was roleblocked. My flavor was basically "investigation failed" and no other flavor.
So the mafia had a godfather and a roleblocker (I highly doubt a protown roleblocker would be stupid enough to block you). The solution to this is simple. If we have a watcher (we have a tracker and a cop, why not a watcher? It balances out the scum power roles, at least), they should watch lemming tonight. This way the scum have to give up their roleblocker to the watcher or let lemming investigate someone. Either way, we get another scum out of the deal, and lemming can start investigating again.
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Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:47 am

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Ok folks, i'm here. I'm not quite sure what happened yesterday- i still havent reread (i'm not going to read an entire game and then find out that i was NKed and unable to post anything. lol)

I don't like MoS's rolefishing on this page, or directing power roles. I think he is stating the obvious, and it's hard to see what his comments hope to achieve.

Will reread and make some analysis soon.

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Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:41 am

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I don't even remember much of the case on Zorg. I remember that there was a point at which you had this fabulously scummy wagon TS started. It had like {TS, Zorg, Flare, Yamahako} at its apex. Just doesn't feel like four scumbags would hop onto you in a row, and I feel worse about both Flare and Yamahako. (Yeah...wow. I just looked through Yamahako's posts and they really, really suck.)

That said, I very much approve of your watcher suggestion and think BM is horribly, horribly wrong about painting it as a scumtell.
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Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:04 am

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In fact, looking back at the old Yamawogon and knowing White and Zeppo to have been town, it doesn't seem quite so sinister anymore.
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Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:48 pm

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Editted by the mod.
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Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:40 pm

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Uhh, Setael, you died...
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Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:31 pm

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Alt check?
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Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:24 am

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Setael... You are dead.

BM. Did you miss ZONEACE directing the Doc last night? Didn't hear anything on that from you... What MoS said was much less directive than ZONEACE. K-scope tried to direct the vig at the end of day 1 too. No comment on that from you either. And, remind me why directing power roles is bad too.

Ether, what exactly do you find scummy in my post?
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Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:48 am

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Votecount

Bookitty (1) -- KaleiÐoscøpe
Battle Mage (1) -- Mastermind of Sin
Yamahako (1) -- Ether

Not voting: Aimee, Simenon, JDodge, Sir Tornado, Yamahako, Lemming1607, ZONEACE, Battle Mage, Flare, Beastly, Niv, Erg0, Bookitty
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Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:54 am

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TS coming up scum lends weight to one of my earlier theories about Zorg - specifically that he FoSed TS early then followed her onto the MoS wagon with weak reasoning.

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Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:10 am

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Sir Tornado wrote:Setael... You are dead.

BM. Did you miss ZONEACE directing the Doc last night? Didn't hear anything on that from you... What MoS said was much less directive than ZONEACE. K-scope tried to direct the vig at the end of day 1 too. No comment on that from you either. And, remind me why directing power roles is bad too.

Ether, what exactly do you find scummy in my post?
I havent read that stuff yet. lol
I only commented on MoS's post because i saw a glaring scumtell. Directing power roles is scummy in this context, because it was pretty obvious who the Watcher would target. There was no reason for that comment, other than to fish for a power role.

Hence, scummy.

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Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:12 am

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Sir Tornado wrote:Setael... You are dead.

BM. Did you miss ZONEACE directing the Doc
last night
? Didn't hear anything on that from you... What MoS said was much less directive than ZONEACE. K-scope tried to direct the vig at the end of day 1 too. No comment on that from you either. And, remind me why directing power roles is bad too.

Ether, what exactly do you find scummy in my post?
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Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:54 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
Sir Tornado wrote:Setael... You are dead.

BM. Did you miss ZONEACE directing the Doc last night? Didn't hear anything on that from you... What MoS said was much less directive than ZONEACE. K-scope tried to direct the vig at the end of day 1 too. No comment on that from you either. And, remind me why directing power roles is bad too.

Ether, what exactly do you find scummy in my post?
I havent read that stuff yet. lol
I only commented on MoS's post because i saw a glaring scumtell. Directing power roles is scummy in this context, because it was pretty obvious who the Watcher would target. There was no reason for that comment, other than to fish for a power role.

Hence, scummy.

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I don't see how it was obvious for that to be the plan. I really don't. Sure, it seems like common sense now that I've said it, but I really doubt everyone would have thought of that plan.
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Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:56 am

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Also, if it was obvious that the Watcher would do it, then there's nothing scummy about me suggesting it. Directing power roles is only scummy if the direction is towards suboptimal play. I suggested the optimal plan for the watcher, so you'll have a hard time painting it as a "glaring scumtell".
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Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:20 am

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JDodge wrote:
Sir Tornado wrote:Setael... You are dead.

BM. Did you miss ZONEACE directing the Doc
last night
? Didn't hear anything on that from you... What MoS said was much less directive than ZONEACE. K-scope tried to direct the vig at the end of day 1 too. No comment on that from you either. And, remind me why directing power roles is bad too.

Ether, what exactly do you find scummy in my post?
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Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:24 am

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EBWOP, I suppose I should have said "for" last night there...
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Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:26 am

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Okay, based on a variety of things, most notably his insistence on directing the play of those with night actions, I'm going to

vote ZONEACE


I realise that this will be greeted with a chorus of people saying that he always plays like this and it's not at all scummy, but I find it scummy, and if he always plays like that, then he should learn how not to play so scummy as town.
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