Mafia 72: Peril in Panama - Game over!

[Kakeng]

Vote: No lynch

This should speed up the real discussion.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Wow. The fact that Battle Mage would call anyone "blatant scum" on page 4 of a game makes me really wonder if he's going to say anything useful this game...

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wow. The fact that Battle Mage would call anyone "blatant scum" on page 4 of a game makes me really wonder if he's going to say anything useful this game...

QFT

[Gage]

Vote: Battle Mage

For the "blatant scum" comments on page 3, and the unfunny "joke" insults throughout the thread. Games are supposed to be games as far as I am concerned, and if I can't figure out who is scum right now I can at least figure out who is annoying. [/i]

[Unright]

When Jordan posted his post he was saying the exact samething I said, I thought maybe since he siad the same thing, my point was missed, so I wanted to reinstate what I said.

Why, though? I already responded to your point in post 31.

Actually, I'm wondering if you missed post 31 entirely since you chose to re-stress your point instead of acknowledging that I addressed your concerns.

YES. I voted myself randomly but added a little gimic for the rest of us to respond to.

Help me out a bit... What possible responses to self-voting are you looking for that might lead to a scum-tell? As far as I can tell, the only responses to a self-vote are annoyance, indifference, or amusement. And those derive from the personality of the player, not the nuances of the role that the player has.

What system did you use to obtain your random result?
Also, is it your goal in this game to find scum?

wow buddying up ftl! and even better, you managed to completely misinterpret someone's comments in the process.
gg defensive-you are blatant scum.

I know you said you weren't very good at mafia during the sign-up thread, but I was assuming that you were joking. Maybe you'd like to explain how I misinterpreted ABR's comments?

[Battle Mage]

Thank you for not replying to the non-joke post.

evidently the post was also non-existant.

[Battle Mage]

I'm not sure i like how you latched on to someone elses argument completely in order to validate a BW vote.

Albert B. Rampage is right. JordanA24's suspicion and vote were his own and were first. He wasn't latching onto anyone else's train of thought or jumping on any bandwagons.

unvote
vote: Battle Mage

^This was the post in which you blatantly misinterpreted not only what ABR was saying, but also you completely misconstrued the situation. Its interesting how you don't like it when i point out your scummy play, but don't bat an eyelid when CKD and ABR himself attack you for the exact same reason.
Oh and btw, you can insult me all you like, but ffs, at least show that you are paying some attention, and call me by my actual name (or a legitimate abbreviation).

BM

[Mastermind of Sin]

Too much 8 bit. Cool off, BM.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

YES. I voted myself randomly but added a little gimic for the rest of us to respond to.

Help me out a bit... What possible responses to self-voting are you looking for that might lead to a scum-tell? As far as I can tell, the only responses to a self-vote are annoyance, indifference, or amusement. And those derive from the personality of the player, not the nuances of the role that the player has.

What system did you use to obtain your random result?
Also, is it your goal in this game to find scum?

Band wagons mabye?

My system was me thinking of someone to vote.
That said,

Unvote

. I don't want to be willing to lynch myself any longer . Would you?

Any other problems that you wanna ask me, feel free.

[Battle Mage]

Too much 8 bit. Cool off, BM.

is that meant to be a pun? If so: lol
If telling things how they are is a bad thing, i think i may need to go home now.

BM

[richman99]

sorry for being inactive. I'm here now though

[Unright]

This was the post in which you blatantly misinterpreted not only what ABR was saying, but also you completely misconstrued the situation. Its interesting how you don't like it when i point out your scummy play, but don't bat an eyelid when CKD and ABR himself attack you for the exact same reason.

How about we set up a timeline?

29 - Unright: "When townies start doing joking uber-scummy posts..."
30 - CKD: "how do you know the jokes are coming from townies?.. "
31 - Unright: "Based on how many people are making jokes, some of them must be town."
34 - JordanA24: "I'm not sure I like how you said townies."
36 - CKD: "I, too, didnt like your use of the word "townies", almost implies you know what everyone joking were townies..slip up, this early?"
40 - BM: "I'm not sure i like how you latched on to someone elses argument completely in order to validate a BW vote." (to JordanA24)
41 - ABR: "You fucked up, bro. He didn't bandwagon Unright. That was the first vote unright suffered." (to Battle Mage)
42 - BM: "actually, i didnt fuck up. Jordan latched onto CKD's logic (which is always a bad idea)."
44 - ABR: "Wrong again. You called it a "BW" vote, when there was no BW."
45 - Unright: "Albert B. Rampage is right. JordanA24's suspicion and vote were his own and were first. He wasn't latching onto anyone else's train of thought or jumping on any bandwagons."
46 - CKD: "I think Jordan was agreeing with me.

Why are you putting words into ABR's mouth? ABR didnt say that Jordan's suspicions was his own, he only said Jordan didnt bandwagon..."
47 - ABR: "QFT ^ Unvote, vote Unright"
53 - Jordan: "It is pretty close, though I actually did think of my reasons to suspect Unright when I saw that post, looks like CKD got there first though."
55 - Unright: "So on Post 36 were you agreeing with JordanA24 or re-agreeing with yourself?"
66 - CKD: "When Jordan posted his post he was saying the exact samething I said, I thought maybe since he siad the same thing, my point was missed, so I wanted to reinstate what I said."
68 - BM: "ok, so i maybe didnt use a word which you could understand. In fairness, you hardly have any right to criticise my grammar, based on your own. lol" (to ABR 44)
69 - ABR: "This is clearly not a grammar issue, BM. The vague attempt at derailing your mistake with a joke only outlines your clumsiness."
70 - BM: "wow buddying up ftl! and even better, you managed to completely misinterpret someone's comments in the process.
gg defensive-you are blatant scum."
71 - ABR: "Says the fool ^"
79 - Unright: "Maybe you'd like to explain how I misinterpreted ABR's comments?"

Here is everything said that involved my inital "townies" comment. (With some editing for brevity's sake.)

First of all, saying "townies" is not a scumtell. However, it was an open invitation to prod, so both CKD and Jordan were justified in questioning me and look townie for doing so.

Secondly, Battle Mage... You're only sort-of half right. You thought Jordan was latching on and he wasn't, but he didn't clear that up until later on (53). You were also wrong about Jordan jumping on a bandwagon. But you were right in that I misinterpreted ABR's words. I thought he pointed out that Jordan wasn't echoing CKD, but when I did the timeline I found that I was clearly wrong. So, my bad.

[curiouskarmadog]

did you ever address why you were putting words in ABR's mouth and I missed it?

When Jordan posted his post he was saying the exact samething I said, I thought maybe since he siad the same thing, my point was missed, so I wanted to reinstate what I said.

Why, though? I already responded to your point in post 31.

Actually, I'm wondering if you missed post 31 entirely since you chose to re-stress your point instead of acknowledging that I addressed your concerns.

I thought maybe I didnt make my point clear enough, because Jordan said something that was similar to what I said...

[Dragon Phoenix]

I've been rather busy the last few days, will do a re-read in the weekend.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Of 4 pages?

[Dragon Phoenix]

It involves more than just reading.

Impressions so far:

1. Battle Mage
Obnoxious, voting all over the place, early bandwagoner without reason. Still, I gather that is his style.
2. mandalorian
Only one post, no reading yet.
3. Gage
Second self-voter. I made clear what I think of that. Post 49 sets off my scumdar by its phrasing.
4. Unright
I like his posts so far. Reasonable and trying to get things going for the town.
5. Nekka-Lucifer
First self-voter. I made clear what I think of that.
6. Kakeng
Post 75 is as unhelpful for town as they come, certainly at this stage. No serious contribution yet.
7. JordanA24
Post 34 does not sit well with me. Scummy vibes. Post 53 deliberately misrepresenting my opinion does not help either.
8. richman99
Lurking in broad daylight (post 85).
9. Mastermind of Sin
Pro-town vibes. Constructive post 58.
11. curiouskarmadog
Post 36 is as scummy as they come.
12. Porochaz
No reading yet.
13. Sir Tornado
Only one post, no reading yet.
14. Albert B. Rampage
Early bandwagoner without providing a reason. Duelling with Batlle Mage about minor issues. Do not like post 47. Do not like his hopping on in post 54 either (nothing to do with the fact that he votes me) and his stubborness in 59. Throws votes around all over the place.

Current assessment:
Pro-town: Unright, Mastermind of Sin
Neutral/No reading: Battle Mage, mandalorian, Porochaz, Sir Tornado
Scummy: Gage, Nekka-Lucifer, Kakeng, JordanA24, richman99, curiouskarmadog, Albert B. Rampage

All things considered, I am putting my money for the time being at

Unvote
Vote Albert B. Rampage

[richman99]

K. Active time now. Have to go out shopping, but then will read previous pages and vote.

[JordanA24]

DP, that analysis was worryingly broad, you said that half of the players are "scummy".

[Dragon Phoenix]

DP, that analysis was worryingly broad, you said that half of the players are "scummy".

I would have been really worried if there only had been a few.

[JordanA24]

Why? I think it would be more helpful if you split the scummy catagory, like to "Slightly scummy" and "Scummy" or something similar.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Nope, don't expect too much refinement on day one.

[Battle Mage]

1. Battle Mage
Obnoxious, voting all over the place, early bandwagoner without reason. Still, I gather that is his style.

Erm, tbh, i was expecting a bit of meta from you, as i seem to recall you playing in Royal Family Mafia with me (although that may have been StD now i think about it). I also find your conclusion that Unright looks protown is very strange.

BM

[Porochaz]

K Im not sure I can post anything because I dont actually feel theres enough of a read on people yet. Will post when I have more time/when I see something scummy. (will have more time on Monday.)

[Albert B. Rampage]

1. Battle Mage
Obnoxious, voting all over the place, early bandwagoner without reason. Still, I gather that is his style.

14. Albert B. Rampage
Early bandwagoner without providing a reason. Duelling with Batlle Mage about minor issues. Do not like post 47. Do not like his hopping on in post 54 either (nothing to do with the fact that he votes me) and his stubborness in 59. Throws votes around all over the place.

Neutral/No reading: Battle Mage

, mandalorian, Porochaz, Sir Tornado

Scummy

: Gage, Nekka-Lucifer, Kakeng, JordanA24, richman99, curiouskarmadog,

Albert B. Rampage

Double standard

[Porochaz]

vote dragon phoenix

Apologies, didnt notice Alberts point and it is worth looking into... the votes for voting Albert for the exact same reasons he let Battle Mage off with.