Mafia 72: Peril in Panama - Game over!

[Albert B. Rampage]

You've played before, Gage ? If so, where ?

[Gage]

On the forums for a game I play. They've run several mafia games there.

[Dragon Phoenix]

I'm fine with lynching any of the self-voters on day one.

[JordanA24]

Albert B. Rampage is right. JordanA24's suspicion and vote were his own and were first. He wasn't latching onto anyone else's train of thought or jumping on any bandwagons.

really?

how do

you

know the jokes are coming from townies?..

then,

I'm not sure I like how you said townies. I think this is a good place to put an early vote.

Vote: Unright

Seems pretty close to me...I think Jordan was agreeing with me.

Why are you putting words into ABR's mouth? ABR didnt say that Jordan's suspicions was his own, he only said Jordan didnt bandwagon...

It is pretty close, though I actually did think of my reasons to suspect Unright when I saw that post, looks like CKD got there first though.

I'm fine with lynching any of the self-voters on day one.

This is a horrible post. Firstly, actually considering lynching someone this early is generally a bad idea, at the moment, we're trying to get reactions off people to try and judge people's scumminess. Trying to rush the game like this only favours the scum.

Also, self-voting is a very weak reason for lynching someone, even considering doing so is scummy.

Unvote Vote: DP

[Albert B. Rampage]

Jordan's my man.

Unvote, vote DP

[Unright]

I'm not sure I like how you said townies. I think this is a good place to put an early vote.

Vote: Unright

Seems pretty close to me...I think Jordan was agreeing with me.

So on Post 36 were you agreeing with JordanA24 or re-agreeing with yourself?

Unright. I don't think you have grasped the concept of the random voting stage.

Was your vote on yourself truly random?

If so, why did you suggest otherwise?
If not, why do you consider it to be the random voting stage? What reactions were you hoping to observe?

I gut tells me that if Unright is lynched they'll be green/blue, but my gut is notoriously wrong.

What the hell does that mean?

Also, self-voting is a very weak reason for lynching someone, even considering doing so is scummy.

Are there any conditions under which it's reasonable for town to vote for themselves?

[JordanA24]

Also, self-voting is a very weak reason for lynching someone, even considering doing so is scummy.

Are there any conditions under which it's reasonable for town to vote for themselves?

It's not particularly helpful, but it hardly deserves a lynching.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Especially when the person is clearly joking.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Jordan is stretching like a motherfucker. It is *NEVER* too early to be serious about lynching. Just because DP is willing to lynch a self-voter does not mean that he's trying rush the day, nor does it mean that he's willing to let everyone blindly bandwagon without giving their own opinions. You're bullshitting us this early? Nice try.

Unvote, Vote: Jordan

FoS: ABR

for following him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Um, yes it does mean he wants to rush the day. He's basically saying that he's ready to lynch.

FoS MoS

[JordanA24]

Jordan is stretching like a motherfucker. It is *NEVER* too early to be serious about lynching. Just because DP is willing to lynch a self-voter does not mean that he's trying rush the day, nor does it mean that he's willing to let everyone blindly bandwagon without giving their own opinions. You're bullshitting us this early? Nice try.

Unvote, Vote: Jordan

FoS: ABR

for following him.

So, you'd lynch someone because they voted themselves in the random voting stage?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mafia are usually more careful and patient though. MoS smells fishy.

Unvote, vote MoS

[Mastermind of Sin]

Jordan is stretching like a motherfucker. It is *NEVER* too early to be serious about lynching. Just because DP is willing to lynch a self-voter does not mean that he's trying rush the day, nor does it mean that he's willing to let everyone blindly bandwagon without giving their own opinions. You're bullshitting us this early? Nice try.

Unvote, Vote: Jordan

FoS: ABR

for following him.

So, you'd lynch someone because they voted themselves in the random voting stage?

No, but I'm not DP. He has an established meta for hating self-voters. It's a nulltell, therefore you are stretching to try and make it seem like a scumtell.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Unright. I don't think you have grasped the concept of the random voting stage.

Was your vote on yourself truly random?

If so, why did you suggest otherwise?
If not, why do you consider it to be the random voting stage? What reactions were you hoping to observe?

YES. I voted myself randomly but added a little gimic for the rest of us to respond to.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

EBWOP: FIX TAGS...

[Dragon Phoenix]

Self-voting is by definition counterproductive. One of the clues you will have later in the game is to see whom people have voted for. This is nullified by these stupid self-votes. On day one, there is obviously not one clear camdidate for a lynch. So I'm all for taking out counterproductive players. This includes self-voters, post restriction fakers, and so on. I have never sugegsted that we now must all rush and string up a self-voter wihout any discussion. But I will be happy to see one of the self-voters swing at the end of the day.

[curiouskarmadog]

I'm not sure I like how you said townies. I think this is a good place to put an early vote.

Vote: Unright

Seems pretty close to me...I think Jordan was agreeing with me.

So on Post 36 were you agreeing with JordanA24 or re-agreeing with yourself?

When Jordan posted his post he was saying the exact samething I said, I thought maybe since he siad the same thing, my point was missed, so I wanted to reinstate what I said.

[Aimee]

A Panamanian Vote Count!

Nekka-Lucifer (2) -- Nekka-Lucifer, Dragon Phoenix
Mastermind of Sin (2) -- Sir Tornado, Albert B. Rampage
JordanA24 (2) -- Battle Mage, Mastermind of Sin
curiouskarmadog (1) -- Porochaz
Gage (1) -- mandalorian
Unright (1) -- curiouskarmadog
Battle Mage (1) -- Unright
Dragon Phoenix (1) -- JordanA24

Not Voting (3) -- richman99, Kakeng, Gage

richman99 prodded.

[Battle Mage]

actually, i didnt fuck up. Jordan latched onto CKD's logic (which is always a bad idea). case closed.

Wrong again. You called it a "BW" vote, when there was no BW.

ok, so i maybe didnt use a word which you could understand. In fairness, you hardly have any right to criticise my grammar, based on your own. lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

This is clearly not a grammar issue, BM. The vague attempt at derailing your mistake with a joke only outlines your clumsiness.

[Battle Mage]

Well I guess you did indeed end the random (joke) stage....since this stage bothers you, how do you normally start a game? Attack the random (joke) vote stage? If that stage wasnt there, what would you do?

I didn't say that I had a better plan or even that I have a different style. I said I realized why some people don't like it.

Look at posts 19-23. Nekka-Lucifer votes for himself, so Albert B. Rampage and Dragon Phoenix vote for Nekka (with DP listing his reason in quasi-jest(?)), then Battle Mage votes for Dragon Phoenix.

What can be learned from that sequence of events? Absolutely nothing. It's obvious that the voting isn't random, but is it serious? Who knows. The one thing I know is that confusion, chaos, and sarcasm will always help scum more than town. So if I can bring the random (joke) stage to a quick end, then I've eliminated a scum-advantage.

Moving on...

I'm not sure i like how you latched on to someone elses argument completely in order to validate a BW vote.

Albert B. Rampage is right. JordanA24's suspicion and vote were his own and were first. He wasn't latching onto anyone else's train of thought or jumping on any bandwagons.

unvote
vote: Battle Mage

wow buddying up ftl! and even better, you managed to completely misinterpret someone's comments in the process.
gg defensive-you are blatant scum.

Unvote, Vote: Unright

[Albert B. Rampage]

Says the fool ^

[Aimee]

I will be away for several days without access. As back-up mod, Patrick will be taking over.

[Battle Mage]

Says the fool ^

oddly enough, you said the same thing. anyone fancy helping me find ABR's brain? i'm sure he left it around here somewhere.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Thank you for not replying to the non-joke post.