Tell for whatIn post 345, MariaR wrote:<this was a bigish tellIn post 298, Killthestory wrote:Shut up and let Maria post. Don't soft defend her.
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I feel like if I do and someone has meta on it my point is just gonna get shut down and yes that's my MainIn post 348, Dunnstral wrote:
You don't think you can scumread someone other people are townreading?In post 344, MariaR wrote:I feel like I'm limited to who I can scum read as in if I scumread someone who has a ton of meta like "NO THERE TOWN STOP"-
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That he was trying to reaction test me but then a lot of people were starting to vote me so it became very srs and I got scaredIn post 350, Dunnstral wrote:
Tell for whatIn post 345, MariaR wrote:
<this was a bigish tellIn post 298, Killthestory wrote:Shut up and let Maria post. Don't soft defend her.-
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I have a response to your response (I'm liking our conversation actually O:) but firstIn post 351, MariaR wrote:I feel like if I do and someone has meta on it my point is just gonna get shut down and yes that's my Main
literally no one has meta on kts iirc? we were discussing this earlier
so if your gut says something just go for it.
Makes sense actually? I'll mull it over.MariaR wrote: That he was trying to reaction test me but then a lot of people were starting to vote me so it became very srs and I got scared-
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In post 352, MariaR wrote:That he was trying to reaction test me
Pretty sure he wasn't doing that
You seem to think that everything is a reaction test but it's really not like that-
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In my only other game with pisskop (PYP X/Y, oddly enough), I was thinking he was scum right up until my death. Not only was he town, he solved the game pretty much singlehandedly in five-player Lylo including identifying the mafia vengeful and making sure she was lynched last.
Up until that point he was pretty useless though (his top two suspects were a cop-cleared townie and a dead townie at one point, as I recall).
So... I guess I want to keep pisskop alive while disregarding everything he says.-
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This really should not stop you, but I understand why you're scared. We all come from different experiences in life and have different perspectives, and even our role PMs affect said perspectives. If you have an opinion on something, especially if it's something that no one else is seeing, why not go for it?In post 344, MariaR wrote:I feel like I'm limited to who I can scum read as in if I scumread someone who has a ton of meta like "NO THERE TOWN STOP" I just have to nod and shake my head yes or I'm scummy for doing it and it felt sorta like a reaction test for 2 reasons
And, also on meta, it's a tool but I think a lot of people (myself included tbqh) rely on it too much. It has such a huge downside in that people can easily manipulate it by intentionally acting differently than normal. It can help if you don't understand where a player is coming from and want examples of how they think (good example here in where it could be helpful is KTS), but it's better to try to get reads from within the game through interactions.
If you want, I can walk you through my strongest read (townread on Zach), especially because you said you had trouble reading the people who were active during RVS so you can see what I mean here? Obviously you shouldn't just sheep me, but Iwouldlike to know if someone else agrees with me on it (and if not, what your thoughts on it are).-
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Thank you for all the support you are giving me here it's honestly helping me more then you think (regardless of your alignment even if I'm pretty sure you're town) I'd love to hear your read.In post 356, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
This really should not stop you, but I understand why you're scared. We all come from different experiences in life and have different perspectives, and even our role PMs affect said perspectives. If you have an opinion on something, especially if it's something that no one else is seeing, why not go for it?In post 344, MariaR wrote:I feel like I'm limited to who I can scum read as in if I scumread someone who has a ton of meta like "NO THERE TOWN STOP" I just have to nod and shake my head yes or I'm scummy for doing it and it felt sorta like a reaction test for 2 reasons
And, also on meta, it's a tool but I think a lot of people (myself included tbqh) rely on it too much. It has such a huge downside in that people can easily manipulate it by intentionally acting differently than normal. It can help if you don't understand where a player is coming from and want examples of how they think (good example here in where it could be helpful is KTS), but it's better to try to get reads from within the game through interactions.
If you want, I can walk you through my strongest read (townread on Zach), especially because you said you had trouble reading the people who were active during RVS so you can see what I mean here? Obviously you shouldn't just sheep me, but Iwouldlike to know if someone else agrees with me on it (and if not, what your thoughts on it are).-
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its a gift really
but scum benefit more from finetoorhes setup spec than town so i consider myself a scumbag at heart
but do you know how hard it was to get everyone to lynch espthelies? peeople have waay to much loyaltybeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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That's how I feel about ZachIn post 355, Ümläüt wrote:So... I guess I want to keep pisskop alive while disregarding everything he says.-
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Lmao what the fuck is wrong with you.In post 346, Chrimi wrote:VOTE: Killthestory
I know I'm already voting them but I figured I'd do it again. For emphasis.
Do you realize what I just did?-
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Spoiler: Zach Townread
(spoilered because it's a long quote train)
This conversation we had felt really genuine. Zach was scumreading me enough to make me his vote, but I felt his questioning of me felt like he was confused why Dunn was townreading me and wanted to poke at me to figure out my intentions. I gave my answer, even though it did end up looking scummy, and it changed Zach's views enough for me to jump onto the same wagon as me.
To me, it felt like A: he did not know my alignment, and B: he is willing to change his reads based on evidence and is genuinely intending to so. Both of those things should logically come from town. Hecouldbe scum manipulating me, but something about the posts at the time felt very honest to me. Thus, a townread coming from both gut and evidence.-
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It's only D1, none of my reads areIn post 363, MariaR wrote:but strongest tr is a bit of a stretchthatstrong. So comparatively it's the strongest, but he's not an innocent child here.
Mind telling me if there's something specifically that makes you less confident? Or is it just it doesn't impact you as much?-
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HaHaHaHa you're such a funny fucking guy you minnie mouse ass motherfuckerDunnstral wrote:
That's how I feel about ZachIn post 355, Ümläüt wrote:So... I guess I want to keep pisskop alive while disregarding everything he says.-
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Just doesn't impact me as super towny as it does youIn post 364, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
It's only D1, none of my reads areIn post 363, MariaR wrote:but strongest tr is a bit of a stretchthatstrong. So comparatively it's the strongest, but he's not an innocent child here.
Mind telling me if there's something specifically that makes you less confident? Or is it just it doesn't impact you as much?-
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Fair, I guess the read has to come from knowing my role PM for sure. But the important thing here is his motivation. Wouldn't it be better to stick to a pretty strong wagon (I was at like L-4 or 3) if you're mafia? Really the most important thing this game is discerning the "why"s of every post.In post 367, MariaR wrote:Just doesn't impact me as super towny as it does you
I'd actually recommend rereading the game and asking yourself who is genuinely trying to understand the other players? It's a lot more difficult (esp if the RVS is fun and you're busy laughing instead of thinking) than it might sound, but I want you to do this because I am pretty certain you are town, and having a townie with opinions is actually essential to our victory.-
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I think you could be (or maybe not) forgetting it was RVS if he was mafia he could know it was RVS and the lynch was most likely not gonna happen with the few amount of players so he unvoted or changed the readIn post 368, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
Fair, I guess the read has to come from knowing my role PM for sure. But the important thing here is his motivation. Wouldn't it be better to stick to a pretty strong wagon (I was at like L-4 or 3) if you're mafia? Really the most important thing this game is discerning the "why"s of every post.In post 367, MariaR wrote:Just doesn't impact me as super towny as it does you
I'd actually recommend rereading the game and asking yourself who is genuinely trying to understand the other players? It's a lot more difficult (esp if the RVS is fun and you're busy laughing instead of thinking) than it might sound, but I want you to do this because I am pretty certain you are town, and having a townie with opinions is actually essential to our victory.-
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131 really sounded like he was serious about getting me lynched, and even very early game votes can lead to a lynch. I think it's plausible that the lynch could have gone through, but I'm glad Zach was willing to work with me.
I don't think it's good practice to dismiss a vote as not serious. Otherwise there would be no purpose to RVS.-
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Pisskop, hows life? I haven't talked to you in like forever.
What you been up to?Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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was just wondering about you you know.
we havent talked because ive been busy.
vv I made a kickass mod for a community kickstarted game +23000 views, i dont even know how many DLs.
I got a new job bossing people around, and Ive managed to piss off half the coworkers by setting them straight. a few tried to use my space for storage and another had a big mouth and a fifth uses his daddies connections to keep free of actual work but ive been compiling a portfolio to prove hes incompetent or lazy. Ive got my boss and a few managers on my side so farbeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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also i lost 20 lbs and i run 3times a week 5k.
go me. if i lose 50 more ill be back into calvin klein model rangebeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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