who are you?In post 5698, Bacde wrote:Hey what's up guys
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survivalism as town is fucking stupid since town still win when they are dead. Your job as town is to find scum.In post 5615, RAM wrote: It is your fucking job, as any alignment, to not get lynched
I'll switch to Salt if that's what we are doing. I still think Celt is super scummy but until scum is flipped in the hood we'll still be here. I'm still not exactly sure why Exp and Luna are so sure that Luna's result was not messed with but I don't think there's really away of finding out unless we lynch the OTHER hoodies until one (or more) flip scum wich doesn't seem like a better alternative to lynch Salt and if he flips scum then yay!
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celtIn post 5700, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
who are you?In post 5698, Bacde wrote:Hey what's up guys-
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Read my summary post, there I explain the reasoning behind it. And i said there's a very low chance it was, but i do admit it as a possibility.In post 5701, No Retreat wrote:I'm still not exactly sure why Exp and Luna are so sure that Luna's result was not messed
Due to my win condition i rather lynch SS first, than going on hunting in my hood just to find out that i actually didn't have scum in it and SS's guilty was legit.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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I'd just like to note that LLD was here plenty at day start and while she had votes on her, but has since completely disappeared, so much so that she's 8 hours off from a prod. Maybe it's just a weekend thing for her, but it's still not very comforting.
rb: why do people need to get off LLD? What reason could you possibly have for townreading that particular contentless void?
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"Let's just say I'm not opposed to anything. But if you're gonna pull your dick out, it'd better be for an Academy Award-winning movie." -- Zac Efron
This is the quote of the game. People should think about this.
Luna has in essence put her dick out to lynch who she thinks scum is.
There are IMHO three scenarios
1) Luna's information is right and she is telling the truth.
2) Luna's information is wrong but she believes it to be true.
3) Luna is making shit up.
Step 3 is suicide.
Step 2 is highly unlikely.
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It is to establish to you that you are not voting SS. Therefore option 2 or 3 is your world and I want to understand why you are in that world and not pushing Luna / SS to figure out which it is.In post 5706, RAM wrote:Mathblade, I don't believe your last post meant anything. Everyone already knew that Luna obviously believes her result, and that as a result Luna is obviously town.
What exactly was the point of that post?
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I've repeatedly stated why I believe SS' claim. My position is entirely based on SS' actual play/reaction to the result on him.In post 5707, MathBlade wrote:
It is to establish to you that you are not voting SS. Therefore option 2 or 3 is your world and I want to understand why you are in that world and not pushing Luna / SS to figure out which it is.In post 5706, RAM wrote:Mathblade, I don't believe your last post meant anything. Everyone already knew that Luna obviously believes her result, and that as a result Luna is obviously town.
What exactly was the point of that post?
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What part of my stance do you not understand?
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Mainly that if it is point 2 that you don't seem to be trying to find out how in option 2 scum knew how to redirect Luna. It is why I asked them last night about when they first claimed. Option 2 IMHO requires the scum team to be psychic and/or in Luna's hood.
And even if they were why they would redirect on themselves when a claimed watcher is in the hood. I don't see you trying to answer that it looks more like you are trying to save SS.-
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Well, I understand Mathblade's issue with you (i think?) because it looks similar to mine:
It's either SS is scum or there's scum in my hood.
And you dont seem to be figuring out which of these cases it is, but you believe it to be the later, and you dont seem to be figuring out who the scum in the hood is.
P-Edit: ninja'd~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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At the very least, im not exactly sure how RAM benefits from trying to save SS as a scumpartner, since as soon as SS flips scum everyone's going to go after RAM due to this defense.
Dunno, the motivations look really weird to me.
P-Edit: Uh, when did you determine that?, i missed it.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Either way.
I hope you realize that my wincon is at risk by lynching in the hood without certainty of the existance of scum in it, i'd prefer to lynch SS first because im not 100% sure they are town, and you shouldn't be so sure either, what do you lose if they flip town?
Meanwhile i lose A LOT if Bacde flips town.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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I don't believe anyone has said that Klingon was claimed yesterday. Nahdia said that she thought about making a blanket statement to have doctors/watchers in their PT target Luna, but chose not to because she thought it was obvious. The phrasing she used would seem to indicate that there was no claim of a watcher, or else she would have specifically called out KC. That's how I interpret that statement at least.In post 5710, MathBlade wrote:Mainly that if it is point 2 that you don't seem to be trying to find out how in option 2 scum knew how to redirect Luna. It is why I asked them last night about when they first claimed. Option 2 IMHO requires the scum team to be psychic and/or in Luna's hood.
And even if they were why they would redirect on themselves when a claimed watcher is in the hood. I don't see you trying to answer that it looks more like you are trying to save SS.
I'm also not suggesting that they redirected on themselves? Multi-factional game. This could just as easily be a random redirect(though if they KNEW Luna wasn't targeting within her PT(which is something she announced) a framing redirect becomes almost certain).
I feel as though you have a rather weak understanding of the game state here Mathblade. Or at least, not exactly accurate recollection of the claims which have been made regarding events.
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I know you have a scumread on KC, im not arguing that what im arguing is:
And your stance seems to lead that you dont care if Bacde flips town, rather than making 100% sure first there's scum in the hood to begin with.In post 5715, Luna Fox wrote:Either way.
I hope you realize that my wincon is at risk by lynching in the hood without certainty of the existance of scum in it, i'd prefer to lynch SS first because im not 100% sure they are town, and you shouldn't be so sure either, what do you lose if they flip town?
Meanwhile i lose A LOT if Bacde flips town.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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...In post 5715, Luna Fox wrote:Either way.
I hope you realize that my wincon is at risk by lynching in the hood without certainty of the existance of scum in it, i'd prefer to lynch SS first because im not 100% sure they are town, and you shouldn't be so sure either, what do you lose if they flip town?
Meanwhile i lose A LOT if Bacde flips town.
Let me explain how mafia works.
Town has a limited number of lynches to use before they lose the game.
A mislynch means you have wasted one of those lynches.
That's what we lose when we mislynch someone, and that's why I don't vote for my townreads.
(for the record, I certainly don't care about preserving your win con, except insofar as I would be happy if we removed all the scum from the game before you lose enough members to prevent your victory. I find your "let's not lynch in my PT" attitude deplorable, PARTICULARLY when you haven't even bothered to attempt to clear your PT on your own without requiring lynches, WHICH IS SOMETHING YOU CAN DO.)
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I'm actually of the opinion that there is definitely scum in your PT. It seems incredibly implausible that your faction was given a (5/6/????) man masonry. Moreover, given such a masonry with a watcher, a 2x BP, and a faction cop? So you could 1) have the BP give out results from your PR's, 2) have the watcher observe who tries to kill the BP, and 3)still utilize a cop.
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Why should ANYONE care about preserving your win con, besides yourself? It's like asking town to play nice with the survivor. (Well, not exactly, but I think you get my point) If it doesn't hurt us, then there's no reason to look within your PT.In post 5722, Luna Fox wrote:Well of course you dont care.
You're an opposing faction.
That much i am certain of now.
Unfortunately, I'm of the opinion that it *is* actively hurting us(if for no other reason than because it's effectively making every member of your pt a modified lover that requires 75% of the threshold in order to be lynched prior to deadline).
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