Mini 496 - Wild West Mafia. Mod Abandoned

[Paradoxombie]

So you criticize people for voting without reasons yet are happy enough to do it yourself.

[ryan]

So you criticize people for voting without reasons yet are happy enough to do it yourself.

I'm happy enough to see other cases on you and agree with what they've posted and this close to deadline you are the best choice.

[curiouskarmadog]

So you criticize people for voting without reasons yet are happy enough to do it yourself.

I'm happy enough to see other cases on you and agree with what they've posted and this close to deadline you are the best choice.

qft

[curiouskarmadog]

although I do have one question

ryan, your thoughts on Twomz/GoW?

[Twomz]

My lack of a vote will not result in a no lynch, and I do not feel that para is scum, so I am not voting him. I will however

vote: Simenon

nothing really concrete though, it is just that at the beginning of my reread I kept thinking "Why is this guy in the game? We should have been on Day 4 with his lynch Day 3 by now..." And then his case kinda just feel apart as people began to attack different people. I do not think a huge case post right now will do the town any good right now though, although it would be interesting if there is a whole bunch of end day activity again.

The case that was in your post? Is that a case against you or Simenon? I cannot tell /sigh. It looks like you are responding to a case against Simenon though, if that is the case, I agree with you on the middle point somewhat, but not on the first and last points. How can you know that town and scum were lurking unless you know who is town and who is scum? And just because so and so doesn't explain themselves, does not give everyone a free pass to do as they like without explanation.

[curiouskarmadog]

I saw this vote coming...actually I saw the lack of a Para vote coming.

[Paradoxombie]

Okay, I think I'll claim. I'm a Protown Roleblocker. a harlot.

[Twomz]

And now the obvious question... who did you block?

[Paradoxombie]

No one; I didn't want to block any cops.

[Twomz]

Hmmm... fair enough. Roleblocker is still one of the roles I am most suspicious of (most popular mafia ability after Godfather I believe), so IGMEOY.

[Gorgon]

I'm highly sceptical. I'm mindful of a recent game where I was a mafia roleblocker and fakeclaimed town roleblocker on the third and last day. It worked like a charm, all things considered.

[ryan]

although I do have one question

ryan, your thoughts on Twomz/GoW?

I don't have a great perception of Twomz due to what I conceive as a "I'm gonna vote so I can't get blamed for not voting" vote. He first acted like nobody was scummy enough to vote and than Simenon is a vote that comes out and than he admits that he has nothing concrete on him. Doesn't seem to want to take much of a stance currently and I can't say I'm happy with that.

[pdcakes]

CKD wrote:

I saw this vote coming...actually I saw the lack of a Para vote coming.

Why?

and no im not lurking. I haven't had time to post my thoughts but CKD's post bothered me so I wanted an answer

[curiouskarmadog]

Okay, I think I'll claim. I'm a Protown Roleblocker. a harlot.

any bread crumbs? anything else about your role that you would like to add?

[curiouskarmadog]

CKD wrote:

I saw this vote coming...actually I saw the lack of a Para vote coming.

Why?

and no im not lurking. I haven't had time to post my thoughts but CKD's post bothered me so I wanted an answer

I think Twomz and Para are scum together...I was pretty sure that twomz would not vote for Para. Furthermore, I think Para is probably the mafia roleblocker. I stated many pages ago I thought the mafia might have a roleblocker because of the way Para was asking me questions...guess I was right.....if Para remains alive, he will block my vig kill tonight.

[Twomz]

although I do have one question

ryan, your thoughts on Twomz/GoW?

I don't have a great perception of Twomz due to what I conceive as a "I'm gonna vote so I can't get blamed for not voting" vote. He first acted like nobody was scummy enough to vote and than Simenon is a vote that comes out and than he admits that he has nothing concrete on him. Doesn't seem to want to take much of a stance currently and I can't say I'm happy with that.

It is more of a I want it on record that I am most suspicious of Simenon right now. And it is true that I do not have anything on him, thus I am not making a big deal about it and trying to get others to vote him... it is more of a gut feeling than actual fact based vote.

It is not that I do not want to take a stance, in fact it is the exact opposite... I voted for Simenon for the purpose of taking a stance, albeit a shaky one.

[Paradoxombie]

So you criticize people for voting without reasons yet are happy enough to do it yourself.

I'm happy enough to see other cases on you and agree with what they've posted and this close to deadline you are the best choice.

Well to be in line with your reasoning on Simenon you must think the town should assume you're lying. Sure you have an explination, but why should we believe you, right? You vote hopped to me first chance you could. You didn't give reasons. You used interest in "where the wagon would go" as an excuse so you could change votes if you wanted to but could still leave it on me without actually giving logic or content. You just happened to wait as long as possible to actually limit yourself with an opinion, just like day 1.

[Paradoxombie]

Okay, I think I'll claim. I'm a Protown Roleblocker. a harlot.

any bread crumbs? anything else about your role that you would like to add?

No breadcrumbs, but my pm is somewhat vague about my rolename like SirWario's but very unlike Ckd's

[ryan]

And you waited one day before deadline to claim, what exactly is the difference? You and Simenon or one or the other is scum, I'd bank on that and if you want to tear down my explanations (again) feel free, but my vote isn't moving.

[Paradoxombie]

And you waited one day before deadline to claim, what exactly is the difference? You and Simenon or one or the other is scum, I'd bank on that and if you want to tear down my explanations (again) feel free, but my vote isn't moving.

I don't expect your vote to move. I'm not trying to convince you, I'm trying to prove that you're scum. You don't deny that your actions are scummy. Voting me so quickly is certainly an aggressive play compared to the conservative style you've had most of the game.

[ryan]

I haven't done anything scummy Para, you on the other hand have showed enough to the game to be the frontrunner in votes. The only thing you have right is I was conservative early but how is changing a playstyle to adapt to a game scummy?

[curiouskarmadog]

Okay, I think I'll claim. I'm a Protown Roleblocker. a harlot.

any bread crumbs? anything else about your role that you would like to add?

No breadcrumbs, but my pm is somewhat vague about my rolename like SirWario's but very unlike Ckd's

how was it different than mine?

[ryan]

Cause he's REACHING so close to deadline

[Paradoxombie]

I haven't done anything scummy Para, you on the other hand have showed enough to the game to be the frontrunner in votes. The only thing you have right is I was conservative early but how is changing a playstyle to adapt to a game scummy?

So you don't think it's scummy to change votes without presenting reasoning or logic? You don't think it's scummy to vote to see "where a wagon goes"? You think simply saying that there are reasons should be enough to bandwagon at the end of the day?

I don't think it's particularly scummy to change playstyles, but the only change I've seen just happens to be at the ideal moment to lynch town. You deny that this is scummy as well?

Okay, I think I'll claim. I'm a Protown Roleblocker. a harlot.

any bread crumbs? anything else about your role that you would like to add?

No breadcrumbs, but my pm is somewhat vague about my rolename like SirWario's but very unlike Ckd's

how was it different than mine?

Because from what I see your role has an actual name, while ours are only called "cowboy" and "harlot".

Cause he's REACHING so close to deadline

I'm the one who has actual logic to back up their opinion here.

[ryan]

Yes I know Para, you have logic, you are town, we are all scum, yada yada yada.