Self-Voting: is it always a bad idea?

[Thestatusquo]

Hammering yourself when you're scum can be sound strategy when you are certain to be lynched (for instance, if there is a cop guilty on you.) It cuts off town discussion, and gets the game to night without the town power roles being able to coordinate any kind of strategy.

The reason people get upset in that instance is that as a player in the game, your job is to make every move with the intention of winning the game. To do anything else undermines the very purpose of the competition. So even if you're "helping them out" you're not actually playing the game, which will anger people who are playing the game. Because what kind of challenge is it if the scum goes down without a fight (without a reason, as I discussed in my previous paragraph.)

[Thestatusquo]

I've only self-voted once, and it was because I was town, there was a large bandwagon on me, we were 5 minutes from the deadline, and I wasn't at enough votes to be lynched. I self-voted to prevent a no-lynch, because in my opinion lynching a townie is far worse than a no-lynch.

This is probably one of the most woefully misinformed statements I have ever heard in my life.

[Thestatusquo]

I've only self-voted once, and it was because I was town, there was a large bandwagon on me, we were 5 minutes from the deadline, and I wasn't at enough votes to be lynched. I self-voted to prevent a no-lynch, because in my opinion lynching a townie is far worse than a no-lynch.

This is probably one of the most woefully misinformed statements I have ever heard in my life.

And a no lynch is better than a townie lynch because...?

In a game of mafia...You LOSE when your number becomes equal or less than the number of the informed minority. Getting rid of yourself as a townie makes the scum THAT much more likely to live, and a lynch "for the sake of a lynch" does not grant that much information anyway, since most people will be on it for that stated reason. At the point where you know you are innocent, it is absolutely horrendous play to assume you're better off being lynched in that situation. While your point is correct from the vantage of someone who does not already know your role (Random lynch is better than no lynch) it is not from the perspective of one who has information.

[Thestatusquo]

RANDOM VOTING STAGE. Thats it.

[Thestatusquo]

I think there is one situation in which a protown player can feasably self-vote without getting utterly destroyed.


Nobody has managed to name that situation yet.

When you notice Eon is on the player list, and you don't want to force anyone to have to deal with him either.

[Thestatusquo]

don't talk about ongoings!

Shhh...Maybe if he does it moar he'll get banned.

[Thestatusquo]

Thats not true. You should see some of the ridiculous attacks I have seen against townies that have voted themselves in the RVS

[Thestatusquo]

She was talking as town, I think.