'The Lost Boys' Mafia (Cry Little Sister, it's OVER!)

[Mastermind of Sin]

Don't you remember? Battle Mage has already been wagoned AND claimed, he's a known suspect. Or were you trying to brush past that fact?

[cicero]

Don't you remember? Battle Mage has already been wagoned AND claimed, he's a known suspect. Or were you trying to brush past that fact?

No. I'm not trying to "brush past the fact". I remember his wagon and claim. It was just wasnt as prominent, long-standing or well explored as the Sudonym wagon. If you do a search from the drop down menus based on Flay you'll see who the most predominant wagons were.

Lynching Battlemage wouldn't make me cry since he accuses me of being scum and calls for my lynch in *every* game we're in together. Unfortunately, I can't see scumtells on battlemage because I find his logic difficult to grasp and his conclusions incorrect in every game. But I don't know why you would be in one breath calling the Tinvision case stupid after his claim but be immediately willing to lynch Star who has claimed Mason and has to find Laddy tonight - which is just as in accordance with the deeper flavor. Seems to me that people that are inclined to believe Tinvision should be inclined to believe Battlemage. And people that don't believe tinvision should be inclined to hang a rope around his neck already.

Anyway though, You know me - I have fears of no lynch on the brain right now. I still think the proper order is Dybeck then Sudonym than alternate targets.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Actually, as far as I know, Battle Mage has claimed to have found his partner already, didn't he? If not, then all the more reason I believe TinVision over him. First off, that's a lot of masons. While it could happen, I think TV's claim is more likely. TV's claim actually fits his rolename really well, whereas BM's fits ok, but could pretty obviously be a fake claim. I can't see anyone coming up with something as intricate as TinVision's claim as a fake claim.

[Ectomancer]

Cicero, I explored the BattleMage wagon myself. You can go back and read my comments on him, his role, his timing in claiming, what his thoughts might have been, and why they were erronous. He even asked me to stop harping on him about not watching the movie. Still, I thought it better, with 19 players in the game at the time, to make moves to protect the identity of his partner in case he was telling the truth. He could always be tested later.

Dybeck, I think we're around 13 hours left till deadline. You don't have much time.

[Dasquian]

I'm not actually sure if dybeck can do anything to reverse his bandwagon now, for the simple reason that it's going to be too risky to try to start a new one. That said, I would, in a similar vein to earlier, gladly switch over to Sudo_nym

now

if the will was there.

[cicero]

Actually, as far as I know, Battle Mage has claimed to have found his partner already, didn't he? If not, then all the more reason I believe TinVision over him. First off, that's a lot of masons. While it could happen, I think TV's claim is more likely. TV's claim actually fits his rolename really well, whereas BM's fits ok, but could pretty obviously be a fake claim. I can't see anyone coming up with something as intricate as TinVision's claim as a fake claim.

This is what I was referring to (see italics):

Anyway, my buddy found me last night, and thus we are now a mason-pair. The reason i didnt want to claim was because i didnt want to force my buddy to claim aswell, but hopefully now i have explained my perhaps, abnormal behaviour, that wont be necessary.
Me surviving tonight isnt a big issue.

What is important, is that i survive today, because i have information which i need to pass to my buddy in private.

[Crub]

I'm not actually sure if dybeck can do anything to reverse his bandwagon now, for the simple reason that it's going to be too risky to try to start a new one. That said, I would, in a similar vein to earlier, gladly switch over to Sudo_nym

now

if the will was there.

vote: Sudo_Nym

Lets make it happen This dybeck wagon is full of lose.

[VitaminR]

I agree with cicero here. We're getting some wagons through that have been long overdue. Even if we don't seem to have a great success rate, these things were going to come out in the long run anyway.

I'll put a vote on Sudo_Nym for the time being. I think it's a good wagon and dybeck hasn't particularly bothered me.

Unvote: Sir.Laggalot,
Vote: Sudo_Nym

[Dasquian]

Unvote dybeck, vote Sudo_Nym

[Ectomancer]

vote Sudo_Nym

Your turn to sing and dance.

[Mr. Flay]

Twelve-Hours-til-Deadline Vote Count (Day Two):

dybeck - 8 (Mariyta, HackerHuck, -TinVision-, Sudo_Nym, Yosarian2, PookyTheMagicalBear, cicero, Arafax)

Sudo_Nym - 5 (The Central Scrutinizer, Crub, VitaminR, Dasquian, Ectomancer)
-TinVision- - 1 (Battle Mage)
Arafax - 1 (AniX)
Battle Mage - 1 (Mastermind of Sin)
HackerHuck - 1 (dybeck)

Not voting - 1 (Sir.Laggalot)

With eighteen present, ten votes will lynch normally.

When the deadline hits, 50% of cast votes will be enough to lynch - minimum 5.

Currently there are seventeen cast votes, so nine would be required at deadline.

[Battle Mage]

Get that F'ing vote off Battlemage until tomorrow, MoS. No one is following you on to a successful BM wagon before deadline. You want to change your initials to

FoS

or something?

Honestly.

QFAT. GG Opportunistic, MoS?


Post 1625 is perhaps the most thoughtless post i have ever seen from MoS. Dude, have you been reading the game? I think even a player who hasn't got a single completed game, can tell you that just because someone was bandwagonned, does not mean that there is a case on them. I dislike the way you are using the previous suspicion on me, in order to push a mislynch right before deadline.

oh and

Unvote, Vote: Dybeck

I don't find him especially scummy, but the way in which MoS seems to be going all out to save him, could indicate that they are scumbuddies.
Plus we could use the information from a lynch today i think.

BM

[Battle Mage]

actually,

Unvote

.
Thinking about it, and knowing how MoS plays as scum, i think that if he was scum with Dybeck, he would have bussed him like f**k.
If MoS is scum, Dybeck is almost certain to be protown, and as such, i'm not going to go with a lynch on him.

BM

[Dasquian]

That's lynch -1 on dybeck again.

Sure you wouldn't rather join Sudo_nym's bandwagon, BM? A sixth vote is well on the way to making it happen. With 14 votes between dybeck and Sudo_nym, we should definitely manage to lynch

one

of them, at least.

[Dasquian]

Simulpost, bah.

[Battle Mage]

That's lynch -1 on dybeck again.

Sure you wouldn't rather join Sudo_nym's bandwagon, BM? A sixth vote is well on the way to making it happen. With 14 votes between dybeck and Sudo_nym, we should definitely manage to lynch

one

of them, at least.

ok, can you please summarise the case for me in 50 words or less?

BM

[Dasquian]

"All his posts seem scummy, and he lurks a lot."


How's that?

[Crub]

On the rare occasion he says something not scummy, he repeats the last pro-town thing said in the thread.

[Ectomancer]

Alright. Screw the deadline, Screw the claim.

unvote

vote dybeck

Now it just takes one more with the balls to jump on and we get his claim from the Mod.

[Battle Mage]

Well, Tinnie's claim is good enough for me.

And Ectina (and a number of others) are right- 1-of votes just make things harder for the town.

unvote, vote:dybeck

Gotta go with a solid second choice.

I've read through Sudo's posts, and apart from this here, they all seem pretty sound.

Still, that post is hella scummy...

I'll be back before deadline-give me some time to decide.

Oh btw, if i die tonight, please LYNCH: MastermindofSin and Tinvision, in that order.

cheers,
BM

[Yosarian2]

We still need confirmation before the day ends from either TinVision or Laggalot, or preferably both, that Laggalot is in fact TinVision's mason parther; that post by TinVision is a bit to ambiguas for my liking.

[dybeck]

So... do I just have to vote to save my own ass?

unvote, vote: Sudo_Nym

Good luck for tomorrow, guys. Please don't forget that HackerHuck is scum.

[cicero]

So... do I just have to vote to save my own ass?

unvote, vote: Sudo_Nym

Good luck for tomorrow, guys. Please don't forget that HackerHuck is scum.

No. You need to claim. Role and flavor. Why aren't you doing that?

[dybeck]

My claim will make no difference to the outcome of today.

Most of the people on my wagon have admitted that I'm not scum. If they're determined to lynch me, it won't matter whether I'm claimed or not. I'll be dead either way.

If I'm not lynched today, then it's better that I'm not claimed.

[cicero]

My claim will make no difference to the outcome of today.

Most of the people on my wagon have admitted that I'm not scum. If they're determined to lynch me, it won't matter whether I'm claimed or not. I'll be dead either way.

If I'm not lynched today, then it's better that I'm not claimed.

I haven't admitted any such thing. No one knows if you'e scum, Dybeck. But refusing to claim is just another scumtell. Think of it from a game theory perspective. What do you expect us to do - go "oh. Passive aggressive and resigned. We must have second thoughts." It just looks like a gambit, frankly.