cicero wrote:Mastermind of Sin wrote:
We have like 24 hours to lynch him. That's plenty of time. At the time of my vote, BM had 1 vote to Dybeck's 2, and I think I have a hell of a lot stronger case here against BM than Dybeck. What's so wrong with posting a strong case to start a wagon? Voting TinVision would be dumb, and I'm not really a fan of the Sir.Laggalot wagon, because I'd rather lynch someone who is scum than a lurker, even though those two sometimes happen to coincide. I don't like taking chances on a randomish wagon.
Also, who the fuck are you to tell me to unvote Battle Mage? You aren't even voting anyone! Your vote is a lot less useful than mine right now. My vote is at least backed by a strong case that I believe to be on scum, and there is plenty of time for there to be a wagon behind it. It's not like I'm placing a one-man vote with little reason and just lurking until deadline *eyes AniX and TCS*. Don't tell people to make their votes useful if you're going to do the same thing. Hypocrite.
You really need to look up the word hypocrite.
http://m-w.com/dictionary/hypocrite
a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
Your vote is not helpful to the town in a
number of ways
, yet you criticize people for not helping the town with their votes. I think you're the one who needs to look up the word hypocrite, or maybe just the word
useful
. Shit, I'll do the work for you.
http://m-w.com/dictionary/useful
of a valuable or productive kind
Your vote is neither valuable or productive, which makes you a hypocrite for the reasons stated above. Nice try, buddy.
My unvote is very useful (and in line with what I've been preaching) because it lowers the number of people needed to lynch - and it will be a vote before day's end tomorrow. *Especially* if we have a no lynch on the way.
Instead of lowering the number of people needed to lynch (which is ONLY useful to scum, because that means they need less protown players to agree with them to lynch someone), why don't you cast a fucking vote so that we can get someone lynched? We won't have a no lynch on the way if people like you don't just sit there posting and pushing cases without voting.
Also, who gives a fuck if you're going to have a vote at day's end tomorrow? What if the same fucking thing happens tomorrow? Who's to say you won't claim that "we need to avoid a no lynch" and use that as an excuse to not vote someone? That's a pretty convenient excuse for putting pressure on people without having your name in the vote count.
You have done nothing but try to find ways to make a no lynch happen in the last few days. This is just one more example.
Aren't you full of bullshit tonight? For the last few days, I've been voting dybeck, who had at least 4 or 5 votes on him for most of the time. How is that "finding ways to make a no lynch happen"? I was voting someone who was scummy, and he even had a wagon...your logic does not follow. I am voting Battle Mage now because I believe what he is the best lynch for today. If people wouldn't just say "oh we'll pressure him tomorrow", we could be building a wagon against him instead of waiting for no lynch to happen. It's ironic that I'm being accused of trying to get a no lynch when I'm the one taking action here.
I've had reason in the last few days to pursue possible cases against people that are (imho)a lot stronger that your battlemage case. I used FOS's. I'm marking them for later. You are one of them. But I'm not using you as an excuse to make us no lynch.
You're "marking them for later"!?!?!? What kind of bullshit is that? Don't make them for later. Vote the one that is most likely scum so that we have a better chance of reaching a lynch. I can understand the town wanting a lurker to unvote so that they don't just sit on a one-man wagon wasting space. But you are an active player, why would you restrict your ability to vote
days
before the deadline? This makes no sense at all. You FoSing people indicates to everyone else that you don't feel you have a strong enough case to actually vote for them. Mark all you want, but fucking pick someone who you think is the scummiest and vote them. The reason we are being restricted to one or two choices this late is because people like you have been freaking out for days and were not willing to actually go after people who are scummy. That's a horrible plan of action, but the enormity of what you've done didn't hit me until now. You really sugar-coated your arguments before, and I bought it hook, line, and sinker. That's not going to work on me anymore.
As much as I hate the plethora of claims that have gone on today - the best move as far as I can see is to hear a hard claim from Dybeck. Please and thank you, Dybeck. And fast so we can change targets before deadline if we believe you.
The irony of this statement is overwhelming.
You want a hard claim from Dybeck, right? So why aren't you voting him? Surely if you're worried about reaching a lynch before deadline, you should throw your vote on him to pressure him more. I mean, if he doesn't have a lot of votes, what's going to make him believe he's going to be lynched?
On top of that, you want him to claim so "we can change targets before deadline"...wtf? If we're able to change targets before deadline, why are you yelling at me for giving us a target? Why are you saying that we have to group our votes together on a few wagons and not look at the other players, then turning around and saying that we can change targets before deadline? Heck, you even said this:
cicero wrote:It isn't like I love the idea of ignoring people. I'm simply being a realist rather than an idealist. If you want to take leadership on new suspects and build a wagon successfully in 4 days best of luck. But as near as I can tell you already sitting happily on one of the major wagons. Several of you are making me think you are looking for a no lynch to happen, which I find either terribly suspicious or terribly misguided.
Which is it? It's not possible to build a wagon on a different target in 4 days, or we can lynch someone other than dybeck in less than 24 hours?
Which is it? I was sitting happily on one of the major wagons (something you've stated that
everyone
should be doing to avoid no lynch), or I've spent the last few days trying to get us to no lynch?
You can't have it both ways.
