California Trilogy - Dantès in Fresno (Game Over!)

[Talitha]

MY RL got insane and I haven't been sleeping. It's looking doubful I will get the whole thread summed up like I wanted to on this game day, but we'll see what happens once i get some rest.

One thing I noted so far but haven't commented publically yet is a growing suspicion of Tamuz.

[Mr. Grey]

Vote Count:

7 to lynch.

logicticus: 3 (IH, Sarcastro, Talitha)
MrBuddyLee: 2 (Dragon Phoenix, Gaspar)
Setael/Cogito Ergo Sum: 1 (logicticus)
PookyTheMagicalBear: 1 (foolinc)
Sarcastro: 1 (MrBuddyLee)
Talitha: 1 (Tamuz)

Current Condorcet Winner:

MrBuddyLee

To view the complete table of pairwise results, put this information in this form.

[IH]

Blah, another replacement.

Well, good luck seteal, but I think you are the best lynch today through no fault of your own, just the fault of your predecessor.

I really didn't like this post. It's a gut thing/I don't like how he voted CES, and then auto decides that Seteal is the best lynch for the day. I feel like he said this, just because Pooky had mentioned it, and there really wasn't to much opposition to it, so he automatically voted Seteal, and said that she was the best lynch.

Closer to a hunch I guess.

[IH]

Pooky-Can you show me a game where you've been town and haven't tried to start an alliance?

[logicticus]

Blah, another replacement.

Well, good luck seteal, but I think you are the best lynch today through no fault of your own, just the fault of your predecessor.

I really didn't like this post. It's a gut thing/I don't like how he voted CES, and then auto decides that Seteal is the best lynch for the day. I feel like he said this, just because Pooky had mentioned it, and there really wasn't to much opposition to it, so he automatically voted Seteal, and said that she was the best lynch.

Closer to a hunch I guess.

so because someone is a replacement they should automatically get a reprieve? You couldnt possibly believe that.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I haven't since Our Great Overlord Mith decreed a ban on Alliances.

[Mr. Grey]

Deadline:

Approximately 72 hours from this post.

[Dragon Phoenix]

I'm keeping my vote, because I consider MrBuddyLee clearly more scummy than Logisticus. I am changing my condorcet on the basis of:

Not voting: Cogito Ergo Sum, PookyTheMagicalBear, Zindaras

Even if you are not scum, you are not helping the town by not voting with the deadline only a few days away. All three of you move up one step in my list.

Vote MrBuddyLee

, Sarcastro, [Cogito Ergo Sum, Pooky], [Logisticus, Gaspar, Tamuz, Zindaras], [IH, Talitha], Foolinc, DP, no lynch

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Cogito is no longer with us DP.

I am going to finalize on my suspicions.

I'd like to kill Gaspar or Sarcastro today.

Where is the logic hate coming from? How about I slightly moved in 1 direction, and he jumped feed first that way?

vote Gaspar

, Sarcastro, Logiticus, [DP, Tamuz, Zindaras], Satael, MBL, IH Talitha, No Lynch, Pooky

[Dragon Phoenix]

Cogito is no longer with us DP.

Well, the players list was not updated yet. Does not matter, his replacement does not vote either.

[foolinc]

- Moved up Pooky and logicticus because of LACE 2.0 situation.

Please elaborate. What exactly do you think about this?

Tag corrected. - Mod

I didn't like the fact that Pooky and logicticus making a big deal out of the "you guys got lucky" comment, which actually was correct as well as "we got lucky" in that situation because:

1. We all got lucky that we lynched the NK on what seems to be false pretenses
2. The group that wanted LML dead got lucky because if they were wrong, they would have been on the chopping block.

It also reminded me of the lace argument, which it looks like we "mis-lynched based on the proof given for the lynch" (obviously the outcome wasn't a mislynch though ).

Truth be told, this working into my vote probably looks like a bigger impact than it really did because I was already very suspicious of Pooky to begin with.

[Sarcastro]

What, am I suddenly the default second choice? I'd rather not be lynched, thanks.

In other news, I'm a terrible person and still haven't actually gone back and looked at anything Logicticus said before today. To be honest, I'm still willing to lynch him in spite of this.

[Setael]

Sorry I haven't posted this weekend. My internet time plummets to almost nonexistent most weekends. Still working on my reread - I'll vote before the deadline and if there's a wagon on someone I find remotely scummy, my vote will go there.

[IH]

so because someone is a replacement they should automatically get a reprieve? You couldnt possibly believe that.

The problem with this response is it automatically disregards everything I say, by misinterpreting it.

I really didn't like this post. It's a gut thing/I don't like how he voted CES, and then auto decides that Seteal is the best lynch for the day. I feel like he said this, just because Pooky had mentioned it, and there really wasn't to much opposition to it, so he automatically voted Seteal, and said that she was the best lynch.

Closer to a hunch I guess.

Now if you'll read closer, Logictus, the meat of my argument is the argument against CES, which you applied to Setael, instead of someone else (as Pooky even seems to have dropped it), because you proclaimed they were obviously the best lynch.

In fact, I don't think her replacing in has anything to do with my argument at all.

[Gaspar]

Prim:

I'll make a post in about 10 hours or so. I have to do a presentation, then I'll get on it straight after that.

[IH]

@Pooky:Is that a yes or a no.

If that is a yes, please do.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Uh, ok here you go.


http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4919

[Gaspar]

(Glork.)

Pooky, IH, and Tally have all posted and not properly responded to my questions for them. Why is this the case?

IH, please explain this "somebody else will become an incarnation of Dantes" thing. Do you think Grey was Dantes? Do you have reason to believe that somebody else would become Dantes upon Grey's death?

Pooky, what from earlier in the game led you to conclude that Tally is protown?

Tally, as patient as I may be, I don't trust you and I don't like the fact that you can't seem to find time to explain yourself regarding IH.

Condorcet Update:

Unvote
Vote: Talitha

, MBL, DP, Saetel, [Pooky, Tamuz] [IH, logicticus, Zindaras], [Foolinc, Sarcastro], No Lynch, Gaspar

[IH]

It's just a hunch. Thats why I listed so many possibilities.

I came up with that idea when someone mentioned he was the "current incarnation of Dantes". I don't have any reason to believe as such, but from a modding standpoint, it would be an interesting mechanic to use.

It's not that I think that'll happen, but I think it's possible, which was why I listed it.

[logicticus]

so because someone is a replacement they should automatically get a reprieve? You couldnt possibly believe that.

The problem with this response is it automatically disregards everything I say, by misinterpreting it.

I really didn't like this post. It's a gut thing/I don't like how he voted CES, and then auto decides that Seteal is the best lynch for the day. I feel like he said this, just because Pooky had mentioned it, and there really wasn't to much opposition to it, so he automatically voted Seteal, and said that she was the best lynch.

Closer to a hunch I guess.

Now if you'll read closer, Logictus, the meat of my argument is the argument against CES, which you applied to Setael, instead of someone else (as Pooky even seems to have dropped it), because you proclaimed they were obviously the best lynch.

In fact, I don't think her replacing in has anything to do with my argument at all.

What? I dont get how we are reading the same thing...and you wrote it.

I voted CES and said he was who I thought was the best lynch for the day. CES leaves and Setael replaces. So of course I shifted my focus there. Like it or not, Setael has to deal with what CES did. So of course I "auto decided" Setael was the best play for the day just as I thought CES was.

I really dont get what you are trying to say by "the meat of my argument is the argument against CES, which you applied to Setael, instead of someone else"

I dont know who else I should be applying it to.

[Setael]

I just had an analysis through page 30 I was cleaning up before submitting and my laptop crashed and lost it all. I could spit nails right now.

I will have time tomorrow to finish my reread but without having time right now to redo all the reasons behind it, none of the people I find suspicious are currently being wagoned. Unless something drastic happens in the next 30 pages, I won't be voting for any of the wagons anyway.

My suspicion list: Dragon Phoenix, IH, foolinc and Tamuz

[Zindaras]

I figure I should at least try to update my list, shouldn't I? It's so...silly not to vote.

Setael moves down because of the analysis I made of her posting. I liked it. I'm whimsical like that. Logictitus moves up because of his silly vote on Setael.

I'm not sure who I want dead. I need focus. So I'm going to put No Lynch there, simply as a placeholder, because I don't know who to vote seriously.

I need to assess this better.

Vote: No Lynch

, [Talitha, MrBuddyLee, logicticus, IH], [Sarcastro, Gaspar, Tamuz, Dragon Phoenix], PookyTheMagicalBear, Setael, foolinc, Zindaras

[Gaspar]

Major FoS: Zindaras

No Lynch less than 24 hours before deadline?

[Sarcastro]

Gaspar speaks the truth.

[Tamuz]

Unless something drastic happens in the next 30 pages, I won't be voting for any of the wagons anyway.

Joke?