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[Dierfire]

VOTE COUNT 1.10

Vedith (4): BBmolla, cmitc1, Masquerade, ChaosOmega
BlankFace (2): Elyse, Hoopla
Hoopla (2): Vedith, House
House (1): Grendel
Elyse (1): BlankFace
Masquerade (1): Egg

No Vote (1): Wake88

With 12 players living it requires 7 votes to lynch.

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(expired on 2016-07-11 22:00:00)
Deadline extended 36 hours to account for site downtime

NOTES

D1 resumes
Egg V/LA until 11 July
Prodding BlankFace
Prodding cmitc1
(Prods will allow extended response time to account for the site downtime)

[Masquerade]

Because the wagon will create momentum which gives us more things to talk about so I just jumped it. Seemed a lot better than going back to the unhealthy shit we had here before the site crashed.

..... :/

[Elyse]

VOTE: Vedith

Ready for a flip

[cmitc1]

VOTE: Vedith

Ready for a flip

would you consider it a good time for him to claim?

[Elyse]

He's at L-2 so not yet. I mean I wouldn't have a problem with it but I don't want him to claim if he's not in danger of being lynched.

[Wake1]

Not happy about losing the Jailkeeper.

Why can't people behave?

[House]

Hey Wake, thanks for the nice shiny scumread brah.

[Wake1]

Hey Wake, thanks for the nice shiny scumread brah.

?

[Elyse]

Wake why aren't you voting

[Wake1]

Wake why aren't you voting

I decide when I vote.

Why do you rush me to act?

[House]

Wake why aren't you voting

I decide when I vote.

Why do you rush me to act?

Why do you assume facts not in evidence?

[Grendel]

3)You're original response is bad because it tells me, "if you don't town read me you're stupid". I mean I guess you could say that as town, but I don't see why passive aggressive insults to get town read is a good thing to do. Mainly because its a step beyond attacking arguments, its attacking the player. So now you're falling back on meta that you're hard to lynch, and that should somehow make me town read you. I don't like it when people act like their untouchable, it comes off as very smug tbh.

And this is why you're an idiot. You're mistaking personality for scum tells.

I hate to break this to you, but the popular opinion that only nice, friendly people draw town roles is a myth.

Don't call me names. I don't appreciate how you're insistence on making all your confrontations so personal. Its bad from either alignment.

Anyways, the idea that a town bases their entire town game off of being rude doesn't make much sense given how many anti-town situations could pop up. (Ex: This game) Not saying its impossible, but I am saying that its very anti-town, and shouldn't happen... ideally. Trouble is ideals are never truly reached eh?

4)I don't do much joking in mafia B/c I don't want ppl misinterpreting what I say. Like what has been happing in every other thing you post. It's very easy for scum to say something incriminating, then before they get real pressure play it off as a joke. I've seen good scum players get away with this all the time. It's no wonder why you're good at scum if you're all always joking. Its no wonder nobody is seeing what I'm seeing right now.

False. People aren't as deluded and/or manipulative as you because it's easy to spot the difference between a couple friends bullshitting with each other and scum looking for acceptance.

Shrug, depends on the player's skill level, and if their popular in the community. I have yet to see scum win the game by joking around a lot, but I have seen them live longer then they would otherwise.

I'm saying that if you really wanted to have him replaced you would have maintained that position despite whatever Rob was doing. But you didn't, you slipped and said that you were cool with a mod kill, even asking when Rob will be mod killed.

Maybe that's because I was abso-fucking-lutely COOL with a modkill because, even though it wasn't my preferred course of action, there's no arguing with the crayons once they decide something is to be done and... hey... it has the desired result of getting rid of toxicity.

Dude. I'm an asshole. Doesn't make me scum.

Build a bridge and get over it.

You've been calling Rob toxic for a while now. Can you explain how your play this game hasn't been toxic too?

[Grendel]

I won't switch to Vedith tonight.

Probably sometime tomarrow if nobody else steps up to the plate.

VOTE: Vedith

Ready for a flip

would you consider it a good time for him to claim?

Why are you dodging my question?

[House]

You've been calling Rob toxic for a while now. Can you explain how your play this game hasn't been toxic too?

Quote one single post that approaches the zip code of threatening to destroy the entire game if I don't get what I want.

Do it now or shut the hell up.

[Grendel]

You have short term memory loss? That's sad.

I didn't say you did.

I refuse to give Robb one inch of satisfaction after he turned into a cyber terrorist, holding the entire game at ransom for over his demands.

He can take a flying formication and I refuse to entertain the notion of anything related to what he wants on any level. Period. End of story.

All when he is no longer in this game, and you will get an answer. But not bloody well until.

...

So you refuse to independently consider voting for or lynching BBmolla Day 1.

See, this can be taken multiple ways.

If you're Scum you're getting as much use out of Robb's behavior as possible.

An implication is that you will be held accountable if BBmolla flips Scum, because you refused even the consideration of him being Scum Day 1. Scum has every reason to make sure their teammates survive, and what you're doing, if you're Town, is bending over backwards to protect BBmolla. Someone who, as you should know if you're Town, is also a random, and you can't know his or her alignment. You not even willing to pressure him tells me that you may know something about his alignment.

Since you like to reward terrorists, here's something you should be able to enjoy:

Lynch Rob or I'll never lynch Molla.

Lynch Rob or I'll destroy this game because I don't care about anything but my own selfish desires.

Lynch Rob or I'll hurt the town that refuses to do my bidding.

Personally, I'd prefer to have him replaced with somebody that isn't... FUCKING INSANE.

But I'll settle for his neck in a noose, too.

Or was this more "joking".

[House]

You have short term memory loss? That's sad.

I didn't say you did.

I refuse to give Robb one inch of satisfaction after he turned into a cyber terrorist, holding the entire game at ransom for over his demands.

He can take a flying formication and I refuse to entertain the notion of anything related to what he wants on any level. Period. End of story.

All when he is no longer in this game, and you will get an answer. But not bloody well until.

...

So you refuse to independently consider voting for or lynching BBmolla Day 1.

See, this can be taken multiple ways.

If you're Scum you're getting as much use out of Robb's behavior as possible.

An implication is that you will be held accountable if BBmolla flips Scum, because you refused even the consideration of him being Scum Day 1. Scum has every reason to make sure their teammates survive, and what you're doing, if you're Town, is bending over backwards to protect BBmolla. Someone who, as you should know if you're Town, is also a random, and you can't know his or her alignment. You not even willing to pressure him tells me that you may know something about his alignment.

Since you like to reward terrorists, here's something you should be able to enjoy:

Lynch Rob or I'll never lynch Molla.

Lynch Rob or I'll destroy this game because I don't care about anything but my own selfish desires.

Lynch Rob or I'll hurt the town that refuses to do my bidding.

Personally, I'd prefer to have him replaced with somebody that isn't... FUCKING INSANE.

But I'll settle for his neck in a noose, too.

Or was this more "joking".

If you can't see that I was throwing it in everybody's face how unacceptable such shit was, you're simply beyond help.

[Elyse]

Wake why aren't you voting

I decide when I vote.

Why do you rush me to act?

I'm not rushing you to act. You were voting Vedith, the top wagon, unvoted without given a reason, and haven't mentioned it since. An update there would be helpful

[Hoopla]

If you had to choose between Vedith or Blankface who would it be and why?

Where are you on Egg and Elyse Hoopla?

I'd probably slightly prefer Blankface as Vedith occasionally pops in to respond to the pressure, whereas Blankface isn't really doing anything at all.

Egg has been flying under the radar and fits the stereotypical model of what I see a lot of scum doing on D1, though I have no specific instances of scumminess in any one post. I'd be more willing to check him out and interrogate him if he weren't going on V/LA now. A project for D2.

I thought Elyse was more town when I thought Molla was scum and she was interacting with him, now I think that isn't so true. My slight suspicion on Egg and Elyse are products of process of elimination in some ways, as I have a lot more town reads than usual so far. Annoyingly, Rob's flip doesn't really give us much more info at the moment, since I think we all knew he was town, so nothing has changed (except losing a good PR D1).

My personal preference early in the game is to lynch lurking or underperforming non-town looking players rather than someone like Elyse who is here regularly, as her alignment will be easier to discover in future days than someone like Blankface.

[Vedith]

would you consider it a good time for him to claim?

Would you?

I think we would be in a much better place voting off Hoopla. I mean, we have already lost the jailkeeper, do we really want to lose me as well?

[ChaosOmega]

Here Wake, let me bold it for you:

Wake: what is your read on Vedith?

Stop pretending to be a good townie being annoyed a PR was modkilled and give actual content, like a read on the current top wagon.

[Masquerade]

House can you just fucking drop the Robb-shit? I agree with Grendel here that you had a big part in his rage with your reacting to it. Maybe you should try to ignore stuff every once in a while and just get over it instead of acting like a child and insisting on getting your way. You acted almost as unacceptable as Robb.

I won't switch to Vedith tonight.

Probably sometime tomarrow if nobody else steps up to the plate.

What's your reason for not voting Vedith now but you would tomorrow? What's the difference? If he's scum now, he will still be scum tomorrow. If he's town now he will still be town tomorrow. If you are willing to vote, then why wait? Why not vote him so we can get him to claim and actually have time to discuss that?

@Vedith: how is not wanting to lose you after losing JK any indication that we should lynch Hoopla? How about you actually push her instead of hinting at her being scum while you defend yourself? Oh wait, you're scum.

[Vedith]

@Vedith: how is not wanting to lose you after losing JK any indication that we should lynch Hoopla? How about you actually push her instead of hinting at her being scum while you defend yourself? Oh wait, you're scum.

I didn't defend myself.
But everyone keep note that Mas is protecting Hoopla. 2 scum confirmed.

[House]

House can you just fucking drop the Robb-shit?

Piss off, I'm not the one that brought it back up.

[House]

@Vedith: how is not wanting to lose you after losing JK any indication that we should lynch Hoopla? How about you actually push her instead of hinting at her being scum while you defend yourself? Oh wait, you're scum.

I didn't defend myself.
But everyone keep note that Mas is protecting Hoopla. 2 scum confirmed.

Yeah... sorry, I tried to give you benefit of doubt but... no.

VOTE: Vedith

L-1, I believe.

[Dierfire]

Bump