Oh was he voting you? I didn't check which is why I put down "I think"In post 198, JarJarDrinks wrote:@bacde, why call accountant out for his townread of me if ur townreading me too?In post 175, Bacde wrote:you have no sense of humorIn post 173, Town Mafioso wrote:Pls stop.In post 170, Bacde wrote:In post 159, Accountant wrote:Jar is town wtf
No mafia member sits at his computer and writes a post like #46 and clicks submit. Mafia members love to try to look town and reasoned and back up all their reads with long chains of fake reasoning. Like if Jar was mafia he wouldn't blatantly sheep like that, he'd come up with his own story and then vote iraon
This is also basically why I think TM is town.you realize you're basing a strong read on a 2nd page post right??
Accountant is scum
Still up for lynching Xkfyu as a joke
calls
Vote: Xkfyu
pls sheep
and you're voting town I think so why should I stop
maybe everyone (mafia included) is pushing him because he's playing like thatIn post 196, Trivium wrote:Maybe he seems like that because he's mafia.In post 186, Bacde wrote:basically iraonvp is playing exactly like someone I would push for an easy lynch if I was mafia so I'm just assuming he's town and finding the more likely mafias
well at least you're smart I'll give you thatIn post 194, Accountant wrote:There was no ira townslip, that was Bacde being a snarklordIn post 192, Trivium wrote:Oh. I thought people were talking about some kind of ira townslipIn post 190, Accountant wrote:Remember when JJD was sheeping you without giving reasons? That's a townslip. Mafia has an obsession with justifying everything they do and giving long lists of reasons for doing stuff. That doesn't mean that people who justify themselves excessively are mafia, but it does mean that people who don't are town. I feel like a mafia JJD would have come up with a better reason than "sheep lol" in order to look good, which is another thing mafia are obsessed with.In post 189, Trivium wrote:What exactly is this townslip people are talking about.
In post 195, Trivium wrote:I like the cut of your jib.
Well I wouldn't cry myself to sleep if Triv died, but right now I think I prefer to be on someone who I'm sure is scum.Triv vs iraon feels a lot like early game bussing and he moved to a vote on TM once he felt he could justify it.
Sure. I think you're scum.In post 197, Trivium wrote:Will the confirmed town please stand up and say something?
Sorry about that. What does your confidence come from?In post 208, JaeReed wrote:Sure. I think you're scum.In post 197, Trivium wrote:Will the confirmed town please stand up and say something?
Also I'm Australian. Time zone is different to yours. Don't be impatient.
Murder is town. High confidence in this.
Experience with him.In post 209, Trivium wrote:Sorry about that. What does your confidence come from?In post 208, JaeReed wrote:Sure. I think you're scum.In post 197, Trivium wrote:Will the confirmed town please stand up and say something?
Also I'm Australian. Time zone is different to yours. Don't be impatient.
Murder is town. High confidence in this.
I mean this is what I said basicallyAlso, JarJar gets town points for sheeping so blatantly. I've only ever done that as town. Town don't give a damn, yo.
Yup, that's his "basis" and it's not something to townread someone for. You had posts by that point which I would have accepted as reasons to townread you. Instead he came back with something NAI and more personality related. Hence, no real basis. The wagon came about for pressure on the slot, not to lynch him.In post 61, Trivium wrote:Well, his basis apparently was that I sounded like I knew what I was doing. First of all I don't, and second of all that's not a town tell. Scum would come up with something like this to get somebody to stop pressuring them, whereas town wouldn't be trying to get people off of them that way. However, I don't believe that that's enough of a basis to lynch someone for. I think based on how fast this wagon formed, there's probably scum on it.
This is annoying because I wasn't sheeping. Murder's post here was pretty bad I'll admit. He negated any real pressure his vote would have. I can understand why people pushed him, but it doesn't change the fact that he's a strong town read for me.In post 62, Trivium wrote:In post 56, MURDERCAT wrote:VOTE: Iraonvp
I think I will always think you are scum in every game. Let's wagon this so I can get a read here please.these are examples of bad sheepingIn post 58, JaeReed wrote:VOTE: iraonavp
Wagon, yo. Also, don't like early townreads with no real basis. Generally comes from scum.
This is a good point.In post 65, Town Mafioso wrote:In post 61, Trivium wrote:Well, his basis apparently was that I sounded like I knew what I was doing. First of all I don't, and second of all that's not a town tell. Scum would come up with something like this to get somebody to stop pressuring them, whereas town wouldn't be trying to get people off of them that way. However, I don't believe that that's enough of a basis to lynch someone for. I think based on how fast this wagon formed, there's probably scum on it.Your vote belongs somewhere elseIn post 45, Trivium wrote:VOTE: iraonavp
Don't like voting the same person in RVS
Don't like the way he responded to pressure
Don't like how he casually mentioned his town-read on me
This is a bad reaction to a good point.In post 67, Trivium wrote: Don't do that. Don't tell people where to put their vote at this stage in the game. It's a scumtell.
I wish people would stop trying to force townbloc's. They happen or they don't, but if they happen it should be naturally formed.In post 68, Town Mafioso wrote:If its a scumtell vote me.
Based on what you said in 61 you dont support a lynch on your current vote.
Stop hindering my way of getting an early game townbloc
Being serious gets reactions. Reactions generate conversation, which helps get reads. Which is the point of RVS wagons. Whether it was a minor ping to me or not is irrelevant because what we're aiming for there is his reaction to being scumread and wagoned. So you should generally act as though it's a full scumread for maximum effect.In post 69, Town Mafioso wrote:OpportunismIn post 58, JaeReed wrote:VOTE: iraonavp
Wagon, yo. Also, don't like early townreads with no real basis. Generally comes from scum.
Looks like an RVS and honestly not as serious as one above.MURDERCAT wrote:VOTE: Iraonvp
I think I will always think you are scum in every game. Let's wagon this so I can get a read here please.
I don't like this but not sure if that's just because it's a vote on a townread. I like the first sentence but everything after that just feels awful.In post 70, Trivium wrote: Early game townbloc is the stupidest idea since the backwards toilet paper roll. Sure, it would be nice, but you don't know who's town and who's not. Or at least, you shouldn't. Also, please back up your statements with reasoning and stuff. VOTE: Mafioso
Why does this terrify you? Those odds are more in your favour if you're town, no?In post 73, Trivium wrote:Also I'm town, jaereed is town, that leaves 7 town to three mafia, so everybody else has almost a 1/3 chance of being mafia. That terrifies me. And no, you haven't.
I...don't like this, but I'm thinking Mafioso is town so the reasoning I don't like it goes down the drain. (Being that it reads like coaching)In post 74, Trivium wrote:Explain your town reads Mafioso. Do that and I will be content.
Yup, and I agree with you on more than just that, but I don't think anything I find agreeable is something that you wouldn't have said as scum.In post 212, Accountant wrote:I mean this is what I said basicallyAlso, JarJar gets town points for sheeping so blatantly. I've only ever done that as town. Town don't give a damn, yo.
Hate me yet? @Accountant, to clarify, you believe the frustration here is fake? Or you believe the frustration here is not town frustration (either by being scum or NAI)? If the latter, please verify which of those you're reading it as.In post 127, iraonavp wrote:That's a really simplistic way of looking at things. My read on Trivium does have basis.In post 58, JaeReed wrote:VOTE: iraonavp
Wagon, yo. Also, don't like early townreads with no real basis. Generally comes from scum.
It's not even a strong read, I hate how I'm being forced to defend something that was just an offhand vague feeling in the first place.
Disregarding this, are you still reading his play as scum-aligned?In post 129, Trivium wrote:UNVOTE: Town Mafioso Purely because of the amount he's posted. I don't think at this point it's very likely that maf would post so much in the beginning.
The way this is phrased sounds like he knows that JarJarDrinks is town-aligned, look, he's basically expressing anger towards JarJarDrinks being misrepresentative, not him being scum-aligned. There's no reason for him to be upset if he actually thinks JarJarDrinks is scum-aligned anyway, he would think that he's a scum-aligned player trying to lynch him and not be bothered by it.In post 142, MURDERCAT wrote:Holy shit are you for real? Like how are you twisting my words this much as town.
VOTE: JJD
Mafioso, do you know me?
I don't trust this. You haven't explained how you came to this conclusion, and if you were scum-aligned with MURDERCAT it would be easier to just read him and me as town-aligned together than to just say that MURDERCAT is town-aligned. You already said I was town-aligned, so I don't see why it's even necessary to mention me here.In post 151, Bacde wrote:$5 says both iraonavp and murdercat are town
I don't see how? If you think they're scum-aligned then you understand why they're doing it, it's not like they're really dumb and stubborn or something.In post 222, Accountant wrote:@iraon: That's a ridiculous case. Of course MCAT would be cheesed off if he thought scum!JJD was twisting his words to get him lynched. This is an example of what I mean when I say scum likes to justify their shit with tons of made up logic.