Ok I'm up to p. 18 and I'm going to post what I have so far. Rereading the first several pages, I did indeed change my mind about almost everything since I had been looking for interaction between LML and possible scum buddies. There isn’t nearly as much meat in the first few pages if LML was an SK rather than part of a mafia team. Disregard my first post.
Though my predecessor FOS’d him for it, I agree with Vitr’s post 151 that “It kinda feels like DP pushed the disagreement between jeep and him to the point where he could accuse jeep of something. It is essentially a strategy disagreement. The accusation of "backpeddling" seems an attempt to turn that into more than it really is.”
Foolinc and DP could be scum after Thesp’s 160. Thesp points out something he disagrees with foolinc about but doesn’t include him in his top 6 scums. Says he likes DP without giving any reasons.
Oman 176 looks scummy - opportunistic skruffs vote; seems to be working hard to give enough supplemental reasons to existing case to not look scummy
Zindy 182 looks town; also likely town because jeep (BM) was NK'd night 1 - too much negative between zindy and that role for him to NK it
DP's thesp comment in 231 looks scummy; skruffs makes some good points against DP in 264 –
skruffs wrote:You are voting me, and if I come up innocent, Cubs is very likely scum. But you didn't address, what if I come up scum, as you seem to be so sure I am (based on your votes)? Does that make cubs likely innocent? It's not hard for me to theorize that you only did one half of the equation because you already know I'm not scum. Error of omission.
298- I can see IH being scum after his intro to the game. Replacing in when he did, scum would not want to support the Skruffs wagon. Rather, they’d treat it just like IH did. He also seemed to be careful about Thesp. Everything he said about Thesp could be expected from a scumbuddy. Also in this post, based on the fact that he doesn’t say a word about foolinc but then lists him as scum, I would guess that foolinc was thrown in for distancing and is also likely scum with IH.
304 – tamaz makes a good case against foolinc. Right after, Talitha draws him out in conversation about her condorcet. Possible distraction from foolinc case but could be she just wants to defend against this before it blows up. Then in Post 330, IH attempts to blow it up. Throws suspicion on both Talitha and cubsfan. Can definitely see IH's post here as distraction from foolinc. It worked since the foolinc case was pushed to the background.
Post 345 – If IH is scum, Pooky probably isn’t. “Is anyone else having a deep unsettling suspicion of IH right now?” doesn’t look like bussing.
349 foolinc player analysis is very off from my read of the game. I can see a possibility of foolinc – IH along with Thesp scum group.
BM’s entry into the game. Makes a point about DP I hadn’t noticed: “Interesting to see the numbers jumping to the aid of DP, despite the early stage of the game. Xyzzy is among these in post 156.” I need to go back and look more closely at that.
384 IH oh so helpfully clarifying the game, and not posting any actual game content.
I agree with Adele’s post 388 and subsequent vote on DP. After the discussion regarding the possibility of a 2nd mafia family, DP comes off looking scummy. BM, logicticus and Zindaras’ posts commenting on it look Town, especially in comparison to Thesp's reaction to the same argument.
IH’s 400 is scummy. Attempts to discredit Adele and throw suspicion on BM.
Gaspar’s entry post (401) was remarkably pro-Town. He made two statements I don’t see scum making.
gaspar wrote: I would strongly suggest that, later in the game, players come back and revisit this entire debate. Obviously, I don't yet know what it'll lead to, but I can pretty much guarantee that it will have some Good Information when all is said and done. I'm not sure whether that information will come out until we've seen some bodies, but this is the sort of stuff that people should absolutely pay attention to when looking back on Day One.”
I am interested to see if Gaspar pointed back here later in the game once there were a few bodies lying around.
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gaspar wrote:An extension of the above point, forcing scum to constantly list all of their top suspects in order limits their ability to suddenly or strategically launch a new attack on a different player. While it does not completely eliminate this possibility ("I just did a re-read on Adele's posts, and I find her to be scummy for these reasons...."), it forces scums to keep up some similar threads of thought/suspicion from the very start of the day. It's *MUCH* easier to catch flip-flops and inconsistencies if we have repeated detailed lists of suspects.
Based on where I'm at so far, players most likely to be scum are DP, foolinc, and IH with Oman as a possibility but that's not as solid. Not going to vote until I've finished the thread.
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