Setael starts methodically, analysing her predecessor's play and pointing out mistakes on his part. This seems very pro-town. I don't personally find it useful to analyse my predecessors, because I know my alignment and how they chose to play it doesn't usually have much bearing on me, but I appreciate analysis and generally find it pro-town.
Setael seems very undecided about xyzzy (now me), questioning both those joining the bandwagon on xyzzy, and why they would leave it. One of the worst contradictions in Setael's posts is this, I think:
I think there's a good chance at least one mafia was influential in pulling the vote off xyzzx, and
then in spite of all these reasons they cited for thinking xyzzx was scum
, never taking the discussion back to him.
and later:
In the meantime, could everyone voting xyzzy, or who thinks xyzzy is scum please give your reasons why? A reread of him does absolutely no good. If the only reason you find him suspicious is his lurkishness, please say so, and if you have other reasons, please share them with the class.
You can't really have it both ways. Either there were "all these reasons they cited", or there weren't.
Overreacts to Shanba's "lie", in my view, but this may have been a gambit to get information, since her next post says "Shanba's explanation of the lie sounded pretty Town to me." Could be distancing, could be legitimate information gathering.
I favoured Setael's logic over Guardian's in their exchange. I did feel Guardian was taking things out of context and twisting them, and I think he knew that he was, since he reacted so badly when I did it to him in pretty much exactly the same way. So it seems to me he was using deliberate craplogic in attacking her posts, and not accidental craplogic.
I really find this sentence suspicious on Setael's part: "I was assuming everyone agreed with my suspicions of Schiz which would give you more motivation to do something which would get rid of them." This wouldn't look so bad, except for this one not long before it, directed at Guardian: "It is always wise of scum to gauge the Town's reaction to a case before pushing it too hard." Either one by themselves is suspicious. Both together are really scummy, in my view at least.
I reserve the right to go back and do a more complete reread and add to this, but hopefully this will help. I don't see Setael and Rishi as scumpartners. I could possibly, after Guardian's turnaround, see Setael and Guardian as scumpartners playing very well and distancing very convincingly. His attacks on her were not very convincing and relied on taking things out of context, something he recognised as unfair immediately when it was done to him, and thus, in my view, knew was unfair when he was doing it.
As always, if you see flaws in my logic, point them out.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
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