hm... I looked back over Paradox, particularly in the time right before the lynch. And it surprised me in the beginning how much I had missed. Paradox throws his suspicions around like candy, Fosing many, while providing reasons for few. But when I got to the deadline time, where there was much chaos and such, I found his actions to be extremely town. He was willing to be the lynch in order to give information, he voted Aimee instead of his previous rival Twomz, who was of course claimed, but it was a quick claim. Granted, all of this has WIFOM that could be applied, but...
And now with this whole CKD/Para exchange. It does look extremely bad on Para's part when he was so adamantly pushing a lynch on a claimed vig, but it could have also been just that Para was mistaken. But I look at the posts he made after CKD provided us with his breadcrumb. Paradox was shaken by this, as well he should be. He did not unvote right away, but in fact needed to be told by CKD.
It also does not make sense why he wanted to lynch CKD if he thought he was scum claimed vig, because as I said before a vig is easy to test, so if CKD failed out test, we could lynch him the next day, meanwhile today we could go after other people of scummy behavior. Also, CKD brings up a good point of Paradox commenting on GOW's passive scumminess, but that Para hasn't voted or Fosed, which is odd given his love of doing that early on. And because I found GOW to be scummy too, I will give an FOS:Paradox. I still think Simenon is a better candidate, but I said I would post on this one.
Yeah kabenon ... there are a few pretty protown things about Para, especially the way he behaved around the deadline, and at times he has been proactive and asking questions of people ... but on the whole there are more troubling things about him, IMO.
I completely agree Gorgon, which is why I Fosed him. I still think Simenon is better lynch, but I am not going to dwell on it. I can't vote either way.
Well, to be honest, kabenon doesn't concern me that much at the moment. I saw him as pretty non-commital throughout day 1, but on day 2 he has been very active pushing against Simeon. I find Simeon increasingly hard to read, and would really like to see more from him than just reactions to others' attacks on him.
I also liked that kabenon was quick to accept ckd's claim and to acknowledge that it was an easily testable claim.
I want to concentrate on playing one game at a time so I'm not available for replacements. If this changes I will change this sig accordingly.
gorgon: is your vote on the ninth layer left over from a vote for GoW?...or did i completely miss something.
and i think para is the best lynch candidate.
Gorgon Wrote:
Yeah kabenon ... there are a few pretty protown things about Para, especially the way he behaved around the deadline, and at times he has been proactive and asking questions of people ... but on the whole there are more troubling things about him, IMO.
I still think his play towards the deadline was a way to come off pro town. He was on the chopping block so he had to do something. That unvote of twomz still really bothers me.
pdcakes wrote:gorgon: is your vote on the ninth layer left over from a vote for GoW?...or did i completely miss something.
Yeah, it is. I see no particular reason to switch my vote at the moment, though. Ninth has yet to contribute to this game.
pdcakes wrote:
Gorgon Wrote:
Yeah kabenon ... there are a few pretty protown things about Para, especially the way he behaved around the deadline, and at times he has been proactive and asking questions of people ... but on the whole there are more troubling things about him, IMO.
I still think his play towards the deadline was a way to come off pro town. He was on the chopping block so he had to do something. That unvote of twomz still really bothers me.
A perfectly valid viewpoint and possibly quite true.
pdcakes wrote:ryan: how do you feel about para? you kinda just voted him without saying anything.
ryan wrote:
I'm interested to see where this wagon goes (especially close to deadline)
and this line bothers me a little....
I'm not saying I keep my vote on him up to deadline but I'm interested to see what jockying is done as we approach deadline, I anticipate people dropping off this wagon and piling on and I believe it will give us alot to go on Day 2.
[i]Please remove your head from your ass before you vote.[/i]
ryan wrote:
My opinion of Simenon stands, he's scum in my books but I'd like to see what people do on your bandwagon near deadline
Give a percentage of how sure you are. Just a rough estimate of certainty that he'd come up scum. Because I'm really tired of players pretending to be 100% certain of all their plays. I've come to think it masks true opinions.(not to be accusative)
Your opinion is as illogical as ever, CKD. I've answered every valid unpreviously-answered question you or anyone else has had, and if I haven't it was an honest mistake. We're approching deadline and now you want to turn my scumhunting into a scumtell. WTF?
Here's a question for you if you feel left out: Why didn't you wait for more than 2 players to weigh in on my case against you before you revealed your breadcrumb? Surely that would be helpful to the town. What if a bandwagon had sprung up on you suddenly? The town really could've used that information, especially at this point, and also later in the game.
Or are you really so blindly sure of yourself?
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