Mini 1796 | May 13th - Game over (Tomato Mafia wins)

[Zachstralkita]

@zach, wrong again. alpaca is the vote here.

nah.

[JarJarDrinks]

I basically have scum in this group: Lowel, Tommy, Bacd, Alpaca

[Lowell]

I basically have scum in this group: Lowel, Tommy, Bacd, Alpaca

I agree. Vote alpaca.

[Lowell]

Also pretty bold move to say there's scum in a group of 4/10 players left.

[JarJarDrinks]

Meaning all scum is in that group

[Transcend]

That was not a nk i was expecting. Shut the fuck up everyone were lynching this slot.

VOTE: JarJar

Will post more when home from work.

[Zachstralkita]

Also pretty bold move to say there's scum in a group of 4/10 players left.

No. I would not be surprised with Lowell/Bacd/Alpaca scum.

Scout is still a possibility for me. Lowell's flip would clear that.

You all seem insistent on lynching JarJar, you can do it without my vote then.

[Tommy]

All wagons that reached L-2 or higher so far:

[7]

drmyshottyizsik

-

Dunnstral

, AlpacaAlpaca,

Tommy

,

Raskolnikov

, Lowell,

drmyshottyizsik

,

nnn_thekushmountains

[3] JarJarDrinks - Bacde, Transcend, inspectorscout
[2] inspectorscout - JarJarDrinks, Zachstralkita
Not voting (1): Trivium

[3] Lowell - JarJarDrinks,

Raskolnikov

, AlpacaAlpaca
[4] JarJarDrinks - Bacde, Transcend, inspectorscout, Lowell
[2] inspectorscout - Zachstralkita, Trivium
Not voting (2):

Tommy

,

nnn_thekushmountains

[5] Lowell - JarJarDrinks,

Raskolnikov

, AlpacaAlpaca, Trivium, Zachstralkita
[1]

nnn_thekushmountains

-

Tommy

[2] AlpacaAlpaca - Lowell, Transcend
[1] JarJarDrinks - Bacde
[1] inspectorscout - inspectorscout
Not voting (1):

nnn_thekushmountains

[1]

Tommy

- inspectorscout
[6]

Infinity 324

- Tommy, Zachstralkita, AlpacaAlpaca, Transcend, Trivium, JarJarDrinks
[3] AlpacaAlpaca - Lowell, Bacde,

Raskolnikov

[1] Trivium - Infinity 324

Alpaca, Lowell and I don't look good in the first one. In the other three, either Alpaca is voting for Lowell or Lowell is voting for Alpaca. Never comes to a lynch. Alpaca posts while Lowell is at L-1 and doesn't unvote, but a quickhammer was unlikely at that point.

[Tommy]

That was not a nk i was expecting.

Uh-huh.

[Tommy]

Will post more when home from work.

Be sure to include reasons for your vote.

[inspectorscout]

Why not mention you only didn't vote when the wagon was on jarjar? You were on both lynch wagons that turned out to be town, too.

Scum is in jarjar,tommy,zach,alpaca,lowell

[Zachstralkita]

Why not mention you only didn't vote when the wagon was on jarjar? You were on both lynch wagons that turned out to be town, too.

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[Tommy]

Why not mention you only didn't vote when the wagon was on jarjar?

Didn't have anything to say about it. I thought the JarJar wagon was weak. The Shotty and Infinity wagons were both good. Just noticed I forgot to make myself white on the last wagon though - sorry about that.

[inspectorscout]

Zach chill, im just saying the 'evidence' hes using is def not in his favor either

[Tommy]

Think I mentioned that myself.

[inspectorscout]

@Jarjar why bacde?
Kush slot got lynched way too easily, def maf on that.
@Tommy who do u think was scum on that wagon? only alpaca? i know u said u looked bad, but only about the first wagon.
@ZACH dude...u said lowell flip should determine if im maf or not...where is the reasoning behind that? I didnt say he was scum (i put him on my list cuz everyone seems so sure) but im not certain about him being town. I think i put him at nulltown a while ago, my stance is neutral. Where am i so pro/anti-lowell that his flip will determine my alignment?

[Tommy]

@Tommy who do u think was scum on that wagon? only alpaca?

Maybe only Alpaca. Maybe Alpaca and Transcend.

[Tommy]

Lowell analysis

Everything in this is good:

Done.

page 12, blue yoshi trying to pocket triv, triv not buying it
page 13, shotty obsesses over scumtells, doesn't like votes on him
page 15, tommy struggles to contribute, bacde arrives, does better
page 17, fading townread on transcend, guy looks twitchy, equivocal on votes
page 20, bacde tangles with jarjar, is town
page 22, alpaca enters w/ read list (meh), shotty debates mafia theory (meh)
page 23, big fan of transcend's 573

vote stands on

shotty

. he's tame as hell in ways I don't like

fos alpaca

I agree with transcend that his "reads list" post was contrived garbage. this is the post lurker-scum make to look like they're paying attention ever few pages. And let me tell you, I know a thing or two about lurkerscum.

fos jarjar

I'm sheeping bacde on this. Hard to put my finger on what's wrong with him, but something's just missing. Is ISO is like watching paint dry.

Strongest townreads:

bacde

, who from his entry has been clear and aggressive in ways I like.

dunn

, though I'm fading slightly on this one. I want to believe in the player who earned townpoints for the first dozen pages or so and not the one who has coasted since then.

transcend

, up and down on him, but I like his calling out alpaca's junkposts.

This was the first time he gave an opinion of Scout or JarJar:

I'm okay with both lead wagons. Which even as I write it sounds scummy, but here we are. VOTE: jarjar who seems more flailing of the two.

Yeah, it does sound pretty bad. And then he never gives any reasons for this scum-read until challenged directly, at which point he comes out with this:

That's a great question which I can't really answer. Somehow I've got it in my mind that you are, though. Am I being played or what?

Zach pushes him again, and he offers "It's a gut read."

Next he makes a decent case on Alpaca. I won't quote it here because it's long, but you can find it here.

I think this gives an insight into his playstyle:

Might I add, alpaca saying, of me, that "he doesn't seem too concerned with acting pro town," and calling that a

negative

, says much more about him than me.

When he's playing badly, it's semi-deliberate. He wants to give the impression that he doesn't care.

Don't like this:

Likewise, I'm getting a scumvibe from triv.

He follows it with some explanation, but doesn't address Trivium's town-slip, which I think is all you really need to read Trivium.

Overall, I think his time on the JarJar wagon looks bad, and that's the main issue with Lowell. He's an all right lynch candidate, but I hope I'll find better when I look into the others.

[Lowell]

That was a lot of writing to say "neutral on Lowell"

Come lynch alpaca with me.

[Zachstralkita]

@ZACH dude...u said lowell flip should determine if im maf or not...where is the reasoning behind that? I didnt say he was scum (i put him on my list cuz everyone seems so sure) but im not certain about him being town. I think i put him at nulltown a while ago, my stance is neutral. Where am i so pro/anti-lowell that his flip will determine my alignment?

You've barely interacted with him throughout the course of the game. I think it's a tell of scumpartners.

[Zachstralkita]

Having Lowell as a neutral read after he got L-1'd yesterday is bad, too.


We should just flip him today.

[Trivium]

VOTE: Zach

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Zach

Good luck with that.

[Trivium]

Having Lowell as a neutral read after he got L-1'd yesterday is bad, too.


We should just flip him today.

This is not OK. If you don't scumread someone or at least have a reason to, you can't just coast on being 'powertown' and flip your nullreads.

[Transcend]

VOTE: Zach

No