It might be good we were both off d1 mislynch too. Wolves normally would be one on one off. That may help.
That's said we may need to distance or fake fight depending on nk outcomes. Def don't go overboard w it but if there are three vt claims, or a cop w a clear then it's nearly solved for the town
A cop w a single guilty, ironically, might actually be better than a clear much less two clears. We'll see I guess.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
Okay, that was interesting. I was wondering why people didn't wait like I asked to monday but it makes sense with vandit not posting at all and everyone getting really bored.
Luckily for us too the way people postured around the hammer looked bad for them (sick fox? beeboy? etc) although Im starting to feel sorry for some of them now... As someone who prefers townplay this just feels wrong...
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
Yeah I hate to say it but vandit is basically wolf MVP right now for d1 hammer and being easy d2 wagon. I'll try and give him some advice post game. Hopefully he improves.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
Zyf essentially claimed VT in one of his posts, if I was more confident a player I'd have done my town response which would have been to tell him that it was bad.
IMO wolves can't win this setup unless town really screw up or wolves get really lucky w nks. Which is funny since wolves win >50%. *says the guy who fucked up the final 3 hammer in prior newbie *
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
I will say this game has helped my confidence quite a bit. My wolfing nadir was the game I had w beeboy, 8v1 I get lynched d1. Not super fun lol. I may lean on that as "see how bad I am as wolf" if needed lol, but I'd rather not.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
Yeah I kind of feel bad for the vandit thing too... It's really just a stylistic thing where epicmafia doesnt match up to this meta I guess. And this game is more that 'natural' misunderstanding than me having earned it too I feel.
I fucked up a certain newbie really bad (1685) where I quickhammered town, somehow got into lylo as confirmed t but then horrendously screwed up the lylo choice.
Mmm I was thinking of using the same kind of defense if I got scumread, all of my scum games I've just been incredibly obvious (and I'm even scumread a lot as town) so I hope that would help a bit, or at least make people look at the meta.
Although tbh it's not accurate since what happened was that I got all my scumgames while I was still really new, and since I didn't know how to play town I definitely couldn't fake town at that point (and they were not newbie games but games full of experienced players). But even those weren't that long ago since I've been pretty active so I don't think people will notice that and make the connection.
I at least nailed kaag in first lylo in my newbie so avoided sweep loss. But that loss still pains me. Then again the whole graveyard blamed the guy I hammered for being scummy as hell.
Wrt defense I'd rather not toss out meta, but we need only one more lynch so we'll see I guess. We def. need a plan for mass claiming though. Not sure what is most optimal. Of course, if it's a jk flip, one of us should probably claim bp. Not sure doc claim is good given cop flip: may need to no kill n3 given a fake doc claim, and even there it's risky.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
Ugh these pr things give me a headache, I've never lived long enough to have to try to figure this out before.
So theres
Row 1: JK VT |Goon
Row 3: BP Track |Goon
Col B: Cop VT |Goon
Col C: Doc Track |Goon
~impossible, but maybe still useful
Row 2: Cop Doc |RB
Col A: JK BP |RB
I'm pretty sure Beeboy isn't an investigative because he would have investigated me (got guilty) or vandit and gotten something to make him hesitant lynching there (but he wasn't). But maybe he's BP or Doc.
F-oh-x or sick I'd assume to be investigative though it's unfortunate because they're both the best potential mislynches. We're lucky if its tracker or jk who mistargets but cop will reck us. I'm going to have to revisit reads to see if anyone is potentially using innos (maybe f-oh-x inno'd zyf for that 180? if sickofit is cop he probably wouldn't check me but he might you). it will really suck if we don't hit the pr-investigate tonight yeah.
So if there is a JK or Cop then BP and Doc are safeclaims, but beeboy I think knows this so I'd be a little wary too, and if he does bring it up it will actually look kind of bad.
OTOH we don't both want to be VTs I think because that would put us both in the lynchpool and give huge percentage to them. ugh headache...
Beeboy might be tracker or jk though, and lo and behold you've never gone anywhere or done anything.
I think FOX is a hard mislynch, especially with him NOT being vandits buddy. I also think he's the one most dialed in. And I think he's likeliest jk/cop/tracker.
I'll re read tomorrow as well to see if anything else shakes out.
Ps town doesn't know there's no rb so 2 and A MAY be useful, but are very risky.
PPs yeah cop will kill us unless we got lucky w night targets (ranger could have been n1 target). Which is possible, especially if say sick was the cop or something. N1 ranger and n2 FOX being cop targets would be awesome lol.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
Claiming bp/doc (and I'll tell ya later) MAY be a safe claim but prepare to be 50% odds to be in a dipole w the real one if you do. Risky but if you think you can win heads up it could work. Lol if you are up against tracker who saw u go nowhere tho.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
Yeah I figured I'd have to kill her eventually anyways to avoid a nightmare confirmed-town ranger at lylo or something scenario, but super quick before people had time to output reads was useful and threw some people off too.
I'm thinking... assuming beeboy is tracker/jk he WOULD have checked me n1 and because of the psychological bias against checking someone twice in a row I assume he would check you or something else next. So I think I should do the kill tonight?
If sickofit is PR same conclusion I think because he seems to townread me but idk if hes townreading you.
Admittedly its a problem if zyf is the pr all along since I think he'd check me at this point but I think hes VT.
f-oh-x I think would check me which prevents my kill if its JK so fuck. More likely tracker or cop though right? Assuming hes the kill anyways it doesn't matter that he'd prob check me if hes track/cop.
I think it's better for me to kill again just in case we have a slow rolling tracker. I can live w getting caught if it outs the pr. I think I'm unlikely to be tracked since I'm not suspected.
Super lol if we have a jk who jails FOX tonight and suspects him for it.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
