Mini 506: The Siena Syndicate - Game Over!

[Gorrad]

That's nice. Glad to see I'm welcome. For the record, I'm not exactly thinking you're the most protown either. The whole deal with Originality seemed pretty off, despite the terrible joke plays he did. You went after him tooth and claw.

Hmm, as for the night dealeo, I really don't think the mafia would kill its own. Most likely would be:
1. Doc+SK/Vig
2. Mafia no-kill+SK/Vig
3. Roleswapper

I agree that the whole roleswapper thing is far-fetched, especially with a roleblocker. I'd believe either-or, but not both.

Scum lsit:
1. Clockwork- STRONG scum vibes. Some gut, but his play really seems off.
2. White, for the deal with Originality
3. would be Vamp for lurking, if I wasn't replacing him. As it stands, Cynic.

There we go, that is pretty much my thoughts so far. Questions?

[White]

Happy Birthday Glork!

Honestly I can't really pick it out, it's just a gut feeling that he's town. Don't get me wrong though, i'll still be keeping an eye out, if anything it means i'll be more critical of him because if he does something scummy it'll also contradict my feeling of him now.

I'm willing to see where this clock thing goes but i'm still very wary of Gorrad because of VH.

[Gorrad]

Glork's always town.

[Glork]

Well, I'm waiting to hear from Hadhfang. Vote's not moving until he does something. I'd like to see him say a quick sentence or two about each player in the game, or something.

In fact, since he hasn't posted in five days...

Modprod: Hadhfang

Mod: Done.

[Glork]

....Bueller?

[Hadhfang]

Right, I'm back here now, though it might be best if I am replaced, I will keep playing until you can find a replaceement though.


My thoughts so far,

Gorrad (who was vampanee) and CC could be scum. They both posed similar suspicions about clockworks "where do we put our effort" post.

Cronx: Whilst his day 1 hammer was quite fast at the moment he just strikes me a a rather zealous scum hunter.

tghan anything tha I can see, maybe something in his posting has struck me and I can't see it, but I think he could possibly be scum.

Pretty much everyone else looks to be town, can't really see anything scummy about their play so far.

Mod: Sorry, can you confirm, are you requesting a replacement? If so, I'll start hunting, and if so, feel free to keep playing until I find one, yeah.

EDIT: I'll assume you need replacing as you didn't reply, so I'll go search for one.

[Peers]

Clockwork didn't do the 'where do we put our effort' post, that was me.

[Glork]

Prod: ChannelDelibird, Cynic Clinic, Avinyl

: ~5 days without posting...
Clockwork and ChronX have gone four days without a post.

This is getting a bit ridiculous, folks.

Mod: Done/Done/Done.

[Peers]

*sigh* C'mon, folks, don't make me suggest another random vote...

[ChronX]

I cast my vote and basically nothing has happened since, certainly nothing to entice me to change my vote.

[White]

Wow, I disappear for a day and nothing new. This is the easiest thread to catch up on!

Hadhfang, who/what is "tghan"?

[Peers]

Mod: Deadline?

Mod: I have not yet set a deadline, because I have just sent out prods. If the activity does not bump up within 5 days or so, yes, I will set a deadline.

[Glork]

Eh, on the assumption that Hadhfang is going to be replaced, I'm going to

Unvote, Vote: clockwork

, and I'll let Hadh's replacement try to convince me that they're worth keeping around.

[Hadhfang]

Wow, I disappear for a day and nothing new. This is the easiest thread to catch up on!

Hadhfang, who/what is "tghan"?

Goood question, I'm not sure myself. I meant Anvyl, and that it was more of a gut feeling than anything else.


(and also, yes mod, I was requesting replacement.)

[White]

tghan
avinyl

Wow...interesting.

Glork, nice siggy.

*contentless*

[clockwork]

Still here, but losing interest in this game. Everyone's getting replaced -- like, what's the point anymore?

Mod: You have atleast 7 active/potentially active players. If newbie games can run effectively, so can this.

Leaving my vote on Avinyl till he says something substantial in his defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone no-show because of all this replacement fever and low activity too.

[Cynic Clinic]

VOTE: Avinyl

Looks scummiest to me for all of his previous actions in the game so far. I was hesitant to vote, but I think he's the best lead I'm going to get ATM.

[Glork]

Alright, let's try to get some discussion going.

Clockwork:

What do you think of the players who have expressed suspicion of you? What do you think of the "case" against you?

Peers:

If Gorrad were killed (dayvigged, modkilled, whatever) as town

right now

, who would you find most likely to be his scumbuddy? Why?

Cynic Clinic:

Same questions as Peers, except with Avinyl instead of Gorrad.

ChannelDelibird:

Please list your order of suspicions from most to least and give at least one sentence as to why you put them where they are.


More later; work now.

[Peers]

Peers:

If Gorrad were killed (dayvigged, modkilled, whatever) as town

right now

, who would you find most likely to be his scumbuddy? Why?

Nobody. Town doesn't have scumbuddies.

[Xdaamno]

Pretty content with setting a deadline at this point.

Deadline set for Wednesday 7th November, 9pm GMT, roughly 20 days from now.

Though I'm giving some elbow-room.

[Glork]

Argh, I meant 'as scum.'

[Gorrad]

No need to prod me. I'm here, just have had nothing to contribute recently.

[ChronX]

mod votecount to go with that DL pls? THX!

[clockwork]

Clockwork:

What do you think of the players who have expressed suspicion of you? What do you think of the "case" against you?

My current accusers are ChronX, Gorrad, and yourself (though only two of you are actually voting for me ATM).

ChronX, as I've said before, has a personal grudge against me. Why? I have no idea. No one (ChronX included) denies it, but he doesn't offer an explanation either. I think it's right scummy but I've been reluctant to deem it such for fear of being perceived as an OMGUSer. (After getting crucified for

suggesting

the

possiblity

that we might have a bus driver in the game I became more wary of this sort of thing.)

The entirety of Gorrad's case against me is this:

Clockwork- STRONG scum vibes. Some gut, but his play really seems off.

Gut feelings, "vibes," "play really seems off"... To quote an old SNL sketch, "I'm sorry, could you be more vague?"

I'm not sure how I'm expected to rebut a weak case like this. Maybe that was his intent.

Which brings me to you, Glork.

I thought I remembered you giving some sensible reasons for suspecting me. But reading back, I'm not finding a whole lot. You suspicion of me seems to boil down to only two things (please correct me if I missed something): You didn't like that I voted for originality, and you disagree with my Avinyl vote.

Regarding originality: We've been over this before, but I'll recap a little. I was one of seven people that voted. Yet you don't suspect all of them. In fact, ChronX (who actually hammered) is clean in your eyes. From post #191:

I'm more suspicious of the people who set him up rather than the guy who knocked him down.

No explanation follows.

Most of us (that is, the ones that didn't replace into this game) got to experience the originality thing first hand. I believe even White, whom you seem to consider confirmed town, has said that the guy was a bad player and pretty much deserved what he got.

It's not like he didn't have any second chances either. For my part, I warned him about the phony role-claims. I even said I'd unvote if he'd settle down and stop wasting our time. But he didn't listen. To be honest, I'm not particularly upset that we lynched him. If he'd lived I'm sure he would've continued making scum-hunting difficult. It's too bad his role didn't go to a competent player.

Regarding the Avinyl vote: I'm not trying to lynch him. If he suddenly accrued two more votes I would definitely unvote. But he lurks a lot (never posting in the V/LA thread) and doesn't support his votes well. I was hoping I could pressure him into meaningful contribution. It doesn't seem to be working. Having made this disclosure (which rather defeats the purpose of the vote), I'll

unvote

.

HTH.

[Gorrad]

I'm really BAD at reading through stuff that's already in place. I get bored. My scumtell was mostly vibe stuff, because I wasn't looking for specifics. Things from here on out, now that I'm a part of the game, will be more attentive.