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Post Post #2300 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 3:34 am

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Spoiler: question to Rach, unrelated to game state
In post 2251, RachMarie wrote:Yeah the OP needs to be updated.

@mod could you update the OP pretty please with sugar on top?




Looking forward to seeing that, DGB.
what does OP mean


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Post Post #2301 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 3:37 am

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Yeah, that is true, tomorrow could be mylo in the worst-case scenario. I thought you were saying today could be mylo.

Also, OP stands for original post, which Aero is having trouble updating (and it's throwing people off).
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Post Post #2302 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 3:38 am

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In post 2255, Aristophanes wrote:Rach, I looked it up, and both Ascetic and Enabler are considered "Normal." That's not actually a departure from the norm.

DGB, do your thoughts on Perf change now that you realized there were 3 kills last night?
What in the? How would her read on me change based on 3 kills last night? I don't understand how town would think this to ask.
This seems like Ari knows extra info , as in he is on the scum team.

I'd like us to put Ari at L-1 as soon as possible. No more waiting until deadline please.

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Post Post #2303 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 3:48 am

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In post 2266, Killthestory wrote:Aris you're so fucking hard to read it makes me frustrated
I learned the hard way in the past, that no matter how much someone's posts make you change your mind, wagoning someone to L-1 is typically a good way to go. I remember first learning this from Thor665. Of course, that's an overgeneralization but I believe it applies well to our situation in d4.
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Post Post #2304 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 3:49 am

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In post 2263, Aristophanes wrote:Okay, so first off, probably looking for 2-3 associates and an SK. That plus a Vig shot accounts for the deaths, and makes for a viable setup scum-wise.
They probably still have some decent power, maybe a strongman/ninja/godfather that they'd want to protect more than a goon like Ozgin.
Fragger was probably expendable too, especially after the Enabler was claimed, and subsequently killed.

This is where I will be approaching this game from now.
The sentence in bold is so peculiar. It's very specific .
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Post Post #2305 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 3:51 am

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I can see where Killthestory's coming from on pg 91 , regarding Kuroi. I'd like us to wagon Ari first though . Scumread on him is higher than on Kuroi - also placing a bit of trust into Slandaar's reply to me. If we're wrong about Ari, we can look into Slandaar .

This reminds me of Frag's constant push on ira since d1, and Frag turned out scum.
Slandaar I really hope you are right about that slot.
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Post Post #2306 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 3:54 am

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In post 2271, KuroiXHF wrote:
In post 2269, Killthestory wrote:no my theory is that aris is your scum buddy bc youre already p much proven scum to me.
I'm glad to see your keyboard is fixed, but you're scummy enough as it is
- although you getting your hands dirty does seem to be the towniest thing you've done all game.
I've been rereading this interaction and it keeps giving me the weirdest feeling. Reminds me of how Frag called out Ozgin time and time again , for being a lurksack. Hmm, I could be reading too much into this - I'll put this in my notes for now.
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Post Post #2307 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 3:58 am

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In post 2281, Something_Smart wrote:lol yeah apparently Aero's having trouble editing it.

All that does seem super genuine though. I feel better about you.

So given those flips, who do you now think is scum?
I actually can agree. The way she's been talking about those folks on pgs 91-92, makes me doubt my scumread on her . Sigh. This game is getting so annoying.
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Post Post #2308 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 4:00 am

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Spoiler: out of context
lol Slandaar! You made my day. I think this is the first game I ever had someone say that about me , the way you did in .
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Post Post #2309 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 4:01 am

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Fragger:
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Jam
In post 74, Fraggernaut wrote:Someone explain the red flags about Jam for me.

I guess I'm not still grasping how that could be a scum tell from them.
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In post 1361, Fraggernaut wrote:Your ISO is chalk full of you saying you're going to catch up, or give stuff ect & then not following through.
- Interacted a fair bit but never showed interest in voting him even when he has had a wagon.


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(+Ozgin)

Questionable

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In post 1529, Fraggernaut wrote:I'm all in for a wagon on Guy, just as soon as Snarky gives us something to work with.
Anyways I am running out of time. Will probably look at this properly later.

The jam thing probably makes Yume scum. Fragger was kind of evasive around that time.
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In post 79, Fraggernaut wrote: This seems rather fake.
I am interested to know your opinion on the 'red flags' explanation.
(Red flags was explained but he ignored it)
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In post 102, Fraggernaut wrote:Hey Slandaar. It's been explained by Boonskie (#75) & Egg (#99), & I think I get what they're trying to explain. I think I would compare it to say video mafia which I have more experience in, where a scum is more likely to say "what do you want from me" or something along them lines to appeal to town or to try to seem town after a possible slip or something weird that they've said.
I wanted to know your opinion now it has been explained. You somewhat agree?
He doesn't agree or disagree just says he understands. Seems like a buddy to me.
In post 225, Fraggernaut wrote:@Slandaar Sure I could agree to a extent I guess that scum would be more likely to appeal to town to appear town.
I have to pester him to respond. He 'could agree'

Like I say might come back to this post later. The main point to take from it is Fragger not taking a stance around Jam early on.
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Post Post #2310 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 4:05 am

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In post 2286, Slandaar wrote:Most interesting thing in Fraggers ISO is:
In post 732, Fraggernaut wrote:I still wanna hear more from GuyFawkes, Ozgin, Snarky, & Boonskiies . Four days removed from deadline & they haven't provided much if anything.
In post 791, Fraggernaut wrote:I wanna hear more from Ozgin, either today or tomorrow since they've been lurky as all hell.
Specifically pulls up his buddy only a short time after naming 4.

It is an argument somewhat in favor of Kuroi but I don't know how much I should weight it. I feel lowish but eh.
Well if it's any solace, I've been having a hard time with those posts of Fragg as well. sigh.
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Post Post #2311 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 11:01 am

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In post 2302, Performer wrote:
In post 2255, Aristophanes wrote:Rach, I looked it up, and both Ascetic and Enabler are considered "Normal." That's not actually a departure from the norm.

DGB, do your thoughts on Perf change now that you realized there were 3 kills last night?
What in the? How would her read on me change based on 3 kills last night? I don't understand how town would think this to ask.
This seems like Ari knows extra info , as in he is on the scum team.

I'd like us to put Ari at L-1 as soon as possible. No more waiting until deadline please.

@SS thanks!
I thought to ask it because a large portion of their case on you was that you assumed a Vig, not an SK, even though we likely have both. How does this imply that I have extra info?
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Post Post #2312 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 11:03 am

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In post 2304, Performer wrote:
In post 2263, Aristophanes wrote:Okay, so first off, probably looking for 2-3 associates and an SK. That plus a Vig shot accounts for the deaths, and makes for a viable setup scum-wise.
They probably still have some decent power, maybe a strongman/ninja/godfather that they'd want to protect more than a goon like Ozgin.
Fragger was probably expendable too, especially after the Enabler was claimed, and subsequently killed.

This is where I will be approaching this game from now.
The sentence in bold is so peculiar. It's very specific .
Would you rather I be gauge about my suspicions? That's rather unhelpful.
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Post Post #2313 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 11:04 am

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In post 2305, Performer wrote:I can see where Killthestory's coming from on pg 91 , regarding Kuroi. I'd like us to wagon Ari first though . Scumread on him is higher than on Kuroi - also placing a bit of trust into Slandaar's reply to me. If we're wrong about Ari, we can look into Slandaar .

This reminds me of Frag's constant push on ira since d1, and Frag turned out scum.
Slandaar I really hope you are right about that slot.
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Post Post #2314 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 11:25 am

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I don't have much to add other than Aristophanes is alive because he's an easy mislynch other than him being scum.
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Post Post #2315 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 11:28 am

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I don't think we can make serious progress without the replacements. Ilikebugs has been over 3 weeks without a post, and Yume not far behind.

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Post Post #2316 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 11:36 am

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@ mod can we poke bugs and yume with a sharp cattle prod, or is it time to replace them?
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Post Post #2317 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 12:04 pm

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It was time to replace them a month ago.
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Post Post #2318 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 12:23 pm

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VOTE: Aris
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Post Post #2319 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 3:23 pm

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In post 2316, RachMarie wrote:
@ mod can we poke bugs and yume with a sharp cattle prod, or is it time to replace them?
Yume is posting elsewhere, another reason why he needs a'lynching.
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Post Post #2320 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 3:30 pm

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In post 2316, RachMarie wrote:
@ mod can we poke bugs and yume with a sharp cattle prod, or is it time to replace them?
We have had a replacement request out for awhile. Tell your friends.
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Post Post #2321 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 3:45 pm

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Again... Yume is posting elsewhere.

I say we save the mod some trouble and get some rope.
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Post Post #2322 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 3:55 pm

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This game is really going nowhere, to the point where even I'm tempted to vote someone.

And yes, maybe Yume, since I doubt I can get Goofball lynched.
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Post Post #2323 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 4:02 pm

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^ thats a scumclaim
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Post Post #2324 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2016 5:00 pm

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In post 2323, Killthestory wrote:^ thats a scumclaim
Explain?
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