Mini 1793: Freedom's Call (uPick Anything): Finale

[RadiantCowbells]

Votecount 4.23:

Demonic Angel (1): Yume
Bellaphant (1): Postie
The Limit Does Not Exist (0):
Postie (0):
Yume (0):
Gammagooey (0):

Not Voting (4): Gammagooey, Demonic Angel, The Limit Does Not Exist, Bellaphant

With 6 alive it's 4 to lynch.

Day ends in (expired on 2016-06-07 01:00:00).

[Demonic Angel]

@Demonic: You can lynch one and jail the other in that scenario. Quite honestly I find it unlikely that either is scum.
-smart

Oh. True.

Autowin then. Assuming town is willing to trust me.

[Yume]

And again, that assumes that I forgo killing in order to jailkeep one of you. Which... why?

Why? Because if I protect Gamma, like you said I should, one of two things would happen

1) I successfully protect him, dying in the process. He gets his results.
2) I protect him, you decide to kill me instead. He is bulletproof for the remainder of the game. He gets his results.

If you are scum, the only way to avoid him getting results is to roleblock one of us.

[Demonic Angel]

And again, that assumes that I forgo killing in order to jailkeep one of you. Which... why?

Why? Because if I protect Gamma, like you said I should, one of two things would happen

1) I successfully protect him, dying in the process. He gets his results.
2) I protect him, you decide to kill me instead. He is bulletproof for the remainder of the game. He gets his results.

If you are scum, the only way to avoid him getting results is to roleblock one of us.

True. This just comes down to whether you can trust me. If we lynch Bella today and no kill occurs and Gamma gets a no result, the lynch pool becomes
Demonic Angel, Yume, Gamma

but this is the same as it always is under Limit's plan, really. It's just a matter of if you trust me.

[Demonic Angel]

Even if Limit dies, you can't really know if we jailkept Postie regardless. So if Gamma were to get an innocent report on you, it would be the same situation. We lynch one of you, and then you trust that we will jailkeep the other, and not simply make the winning kill.

[Yume]

Well, I can't trust you. Something in me says you're indeed scum.

[Demonic Angel]

Well, actually if Gamma got an innocent report on you, it could only be Gamma or us. So we would lynch Gamma and then...well. If the game were to continue, I suppose we would work under the assumption that either you're a Godfather as well or Postie is ascetic/unblockable/something to that effect. I guess we would have to jail you though since Postie being one of those means there's nothing we could do regardless.

[Demonic Angel]

So you think I'm a bulletproof, then?

[Yume]

No, I said that Gamma would be bulletproof if I am nked. That's part of my role. Whoever I protected last upon dying becomes bulletproof.

[Demonic Angel]

I know. But for us to be scum, we

have

to be bulletproof. Or have you not been reading thus far today?

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

oh oh oh I know!
We shoot Postie. If Demonic does anything besides jailkeep Postie, she'll die and town will know.

And if Postie's the only one to die, we'll have a 1v1 either between Gamma and Yume or Gamma and Demonic, with us alive to shoot the other if we mislynch.

Hm. On second thought I'm not so sure this is a good idea.

Also @yume for Demonic to be scum they would have to both be bulletproof and have predicted who was the vig and who they would shoot. Though I guess it could have been obvious from my comments this morning that I had a failed kill.
-smart

[Demonic Angel]

If you shoot Postie, and we jail Postie... yeah. Actually, do that. It confirms both our action and that Postie isn't some unblockable/ascetic mafia who overturned to their partner.

[Demonic Angel]

So the plan is...

Lynch Bella

Limit vigges Postie
Demonic Angel jailkeeps Postie
Yume protects Gamma
Gamma cops Yume

Does anyone disagree?

[Party Boat]

^that seems bad

I don't want to do shit where the jailkeep not working for some reason results in an ACTUALLY almost confirmed town person dying.

also
i'm probably not actually going to do shit tonight because I want to go downtown instead

so don't quicklynch anyone unless the game is literally solved plz (yes this includes fate possibly being a bulletproof he tries to confirm himself as town regardless of what alignment he is basically every game)

like seriously we have time don't quicklynch shit i'll be back tomorrow

[Gammagooey]

^that seems bad

I don't want to do shit where the jailkeep not working for some reason results in an ACTUALLY almost confirmed town person dying.

also
i'm probably not actually going to do shit tonight because I want to go downtown instead

so don't quicklynch anyone unless the game is literally solved plz (yes this includes fate possibly being a bulletproof he tries to confirm himself as town regardless of what alignment he is basically every game)

like seriously we have time don't quicklynch shit i'll be back tomorrow

me, duh

[Demonic Angel]

If just Limit dies, we're confirmed as a jailkeeper and Postie is confirmed as not ascetic. It becomes Gamma vs Yume, whichever we lynch, we can jail the other.

If just Postie dies, we're confirmed as either roleblocked or not jailkeeping Postie. Depending on Gamma's check, a CC between either Yume and ourselves or Gamma and ourselves is forced, with Limit as an ascetic alive to vig if we mislynch.

If Postie and Limit die, we're confirmed as not a jailkeeper. Or the final scum can roleblock and kill in the same night, though if that's Yume then Gamma will have a guilty on them anyway. And if it's Gamma... well I guess that's a hitch in the plan but it's extremely unlikely.

(yes this includes fate possibly being a bulletproof he tries to confirm himself as town regardless of what alignment he is basically every game)

Good thing this has been all Nahdia today then

[Demonic Angel]

If just Postie dies, we're confirmed as either roleblocked or not jailkeeping Postie. Depending on Gamma's check, a CC between either Yume and ourselves or Gamma and ourselves is forced, with Limit as an ascetic alive to vig if we mislynch.

Whoops this is wrong. If Gamma gets a guilty, obviously it's a CC between Gamma and Yume regardless. If Gamma gets an innocent, it's a CC between Gamma and ourselves. If Gamma gets no result, we're confirmed as mafia unless scum is a.... double roleblocker -_-'

[Demonic Angel]

Well wait no Gamma could just pretend to get no result. So it's just another CC between ourselves and Gamma. Unless Yume is a double roleblocker >_>

[Demonic Angel]

Postie isn't even actually confirmed town, Gamma.

[Arabella]

I see posts from just Bella, have I been replaced out?
My timing has been horrendous this game and for that I apologize, mostly to Bella.

I'll read up if I'm still in the game though!

- Ari

[Arabella]

Bellaphant replaces Arabella.

I see. NVM.

I'm really sorry all.

Ari out!

[Demonic Angel]

Yume I haven't read but from what Nahdia tells me you're throwing away town's unlosable game plan because

...

because...


you feel like we're scum??

[Demonic Angel]

1.
If we wre scum we'd be a roleblocker, right?
Then why was LIMIT ROLEBLOCKED, who has CONFIRMED we roleblocked him, and not YOU YUME.

I mean scum afterall shot the cop who you obviously were going to protect. Are we a strongarm roleblocker bullshitmadness? Or what?

2.
Why did we OUT THAT THERE IS SCUM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD

WL was already taking a shit ton of heat and I go an dout another scumbuddy? How the fuck do you even make sense of this in you brain?

[Demonic Angel]

WAIT.

That means we're clear since us being alive confirms we jailkept Limit. The only way we're not clear is if

1) You think we're a Bulletproof (unlikely seeing as we had a mafia loyal doc flip)
2) You think we can jailkeep and kill in the same night (unlikely that RC would give us that ability when he specified in the opening post that it would not be the default)

[RadiantCowbells]

vcxz