Newbie Game #489 - Murder in Smallburg (Game Over!)

[NabakovNabakov]

Nobody Vote!

At best what I have on zaz is a light tell, we certainly don't want the hammer this early in the game (especially before the accused party has a chance to respond). We defintely need more time to explore the situation further.

If zazq turns up town, I will interpert any hammers as a scum-claim.

[coxy52k]

Nobody Vote!

At best what I have on zaz is a light tell, we certainly don't want the hammer this early in the game (especially before the accused party has a chance to respond). We defintely need more time to explore the situation further.

If zazq turns up town, I will interpert any hammers as a scum-claim.

I aggree it is far to early to tell! He was very quick to jump on any chance of a band wagon. I have to say he is still top of my suspect list but just to stop anyone making a stupid vote and ending day1 far to early...

unvote

[mcpaltp]

Oops, thought it was -2 to lynch, thanks coxy52k. I still think (s)he is the best target and the most scummy, but I suppose I hsould have just FOSed her/him.

Sorry all, I agree we should at least hear some defence before any lynch (lynching a power role, or indeed any town at all, sucks).

[Mr. Flay]

Third Vote Count of Day One:

zazq - 2 (NabakovNabakov, mcpaltp)

coxy52k - 1 (desolator)
mcpaltp - 1 (zazq)

Not Voting - 3 (Boggzie, sk407, coxy52k)

With seven alive, four votes will be enough to lynch.

[desolator]

I'll have to say that this i going a bit slow.

Why do you beleive that coxy52k is the scummiest, mcpaltp?

[coxy52k]

i think he meant zazq!

[mcpaltp]

What made me suspicious was putting someone on -1 to hammer just to prod them into voting, not because they thought they were scummy. Town wants to lynch scum, first and foremost. Any other reason to vote for someone (after the jokevote phase, naturally) scans as scummy to me.

This is made worse by putting somone at -1 to hammer. It would be very easy for a scum-buddy to jump on the bandwagon and lynch a townie, which is what they are looking to do.

Also, this game is going slow, so I'm voting for the scummiest option to get the ball rolling a bit.

I'm using a different username on the other site, btw. (It's a secret!)

[NabakovNabakov]

Well one reason this is slowing down is that we have yet to hear from zazq.

Mod:

Prod Please (I don't know if 3 days is enough, but just keep it in mind)

The way he responds should be telling one way or the other.

[coxy52k]

desolator can i ask what is the reason for keeping your vote on me?

[desolator]

No reason, I just feel that we haven't gotten into the serios part of the game, once I feel that we have I shall remove my vote.

[Boggzie]

I received a prod; there's just no new evidence presented to comment on.

zazq has questions to answer, and right now that's the only direction I have. zazq needs to respond, I think once that happens we'll be able to look elsewhere or dig deeper.

[sk407]

I have a question. How do you know if you are prodded or not? Do you get like a PM telling you about it or what?

[Mr. Flay]

Players who do not post every 3-4 days will receive a PM from me, also called a "prod".

[Mr. Flay]

Addendum:

Games

that do not post for several days will receive a deadline, which means a reduced number of votes to lynch

(in this case, 3). This generally does not favor the town, as it reduces the amount of information available from the lynch, and can allow scum to direct the lynch more effectively.

So get posting!

[mcpaltp]

Have you prodded zazq yet? That's all I'm waiting for.

[Mr. Flay]

zazq was indeed prodded.

I don't always mention it in thread when I do so, in case players want to continue to lurk w/o drawing attention

(my philosophy is that I'm responsible for replacing

dropped

players, players are responsible for dealing with actual lurkers)

.

[mcpaltp]

Fair enough. If you are saying what you think you are saying, then she is lurking. Seriously, it's been, what, 5 days? more?

Scummy+lots of lurking when we start asking questions all of a sudden=vote stays on, at least in my book.

This game isn't moving very fast at all.

[mcpaltp]

Oh, and even though I'm town, I'd be in favor of a deadline to get things moving a little bit. The sooner the better. (I'm used to games with 72-hour deadlines anyway.) Consideing the pace on this forum, a week or so would probably be appropriate.

[NabakovNabakov]

The fact that zazq was prodded doesn't make him a lurker. If we knew that he has picked up the prod (we don't) then he would definitely be a lurker and a foolhardy one at that. It's very possible he has flaked or disappeared. His playstyle at the beginning of the game did not indicate any intention to lurk.

[mcpaltp]

I could buy that I guess. I'll wait it out.

[coxy52k]

I think it is really sus that he is "lurking" (if he is at all!) He posted frequently at the start but seems to have vanished off the face of the planet.

If we hear nothing from him tomorrow i'm afraid he gets my vote!

[NabakovNabakov]

Wait?

What?

Zazq isn't lurking. That's not suspicious. It's likely that he's just inactive.

So you're going to vote for him why?

Unvote; Vote: cozy52k

[Boggzie]

Wait?

What?

Zazq isn't lurking. That's not suspicious. It's likely that he's just inactive.

So you're going to vote for him why?

Unvote; Vote: cozy52k

Wait a second. He mentions he'll vote a certain way, no FoS, no Vote, and you lay a vote on him? Granted it's no L-1 vote on him or anything, but isn't a tad rash? The guy was basically talking aloud. Laying out your thoughts that way, to me anyhow, is a very "townish" action.

NN, that's a worrying move from you.

[NabakovNabakov]

It was a vote with a definite condition attached. It establishes precedence and makes a later vote on zazq (an inactive in my mind until we get a post) smoother. It wasn't "zazq's inactivity distresses me, I might consider voting for him." it was "If zazq remains inactive for another day, I will vote for him." there is a

massive

difference between the two.

And you're right, players putting their thoughts out in the open is a very pro-town action. Doing that lets us see what reasoning is solid and what is crap. Sometimes when we find crap, there's at least a possibility that it was just a slip of reasoning, but Coxy's logic is so nonexistent that it betrays an ulterior motive.

Can anybody explain to me how the first paragraph of his post gels with the second?

[coxy52k]

It was a vote with a definite condition attached. It establishes precedence and makes a later vote on zazq (an inactive in my mind until we get a post) smoother. It wasn't "zazq's inactivity distresses me, I might consider voting for him." it was "If zazq remains inactive for another day, I will vote for him." there is a

massive

difference between the two.

And you're right, players putting their thoughts out in the open is a very pro-town action. Doing that lets us see what reasoning is solid and what is crap. Sometimes when we find crap, there's at least a possibility that it was just a slip of reasoning, but Coxy's logic is so nonexistent that it betrays an ulterior motive.

Can anybody explain to me how the first paragraph of his post gels with the second?

It is obvious to me that he is inactive now due to the fact that he has not posted back to anybody else's post. I don't think inactivity is a very pro town idea at all and for that reason

vote Zazq

.

My logic was that he is not helping the town as he is not providing us with any information about what he is thinking/doing.

Not sure what your problem with my logic is NN but jumping off Zazq so quick and jumping onto someone that wants/will vote for him to be gone makes you go up my suspect list!